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Confused- I'm in agreement with Pepper about you having your own thread, so I'm going to post here, so that you can respond HERE.
By no means am I telling you that you don't deserve to be happy. Quite the opposite...I'm telling you that you DO deserve to be happy, and that I WANT you to be happy.
The problem is this...you can't just sit there and expect happiness to come. You can't just sit there and hide the truth from your husband, and sit there and allow the OM to continually contact you, and expect your marriage to get better.
When my wife's A came out, and we first started to go to counseling, our first counselor asked her if she wanted to work on our marriage. My wife said she wasn't sure. So, we began the whole "working on yourself" routine...and not addressing our marriage issues. After a few weeks, our counselor brought this up again...and my wife said "I just want to work on myself. If I make myself better, that will make our marriage better".
Our counselor replied, "You can't sit there and just hope that your marriage will get better. It's like building a house...you have to DECIDE to build a house. You won't sit there and suddenly find that you've built a house by accident.".
Think about it. Apply it to your situation. And then determine what you really want...for yourself, and your family. Then...do something about it.
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Hi Confusedwoman –
I don't think I've posted to you before. I'm an FWW, writing with a voice of experience POV. I’m using quotes of yours from the other thread.
“does anyone think I can save my marriage and not be so bitter towards my hubby?â€
The way to stop being bitter towards your H is not to review his faults – make a conscious effort to forgive him for past mistakes, and start over. Throw yourself into your M 100%, which means excluding OM from your life ALTOGETHER.
Read HNHN with your H and do the questionnaires together. Write an NC letter to OM – even if you don’t contact him, his contacting you will keep you from getting through withdrawal.
Is there some way you could see your MC alone, or a different IC, and discuss the truth about your A, and get some help with the decisions that need to be made about coming clean?
“but maybe I don't deserve to be happy. I have done so many things wrong in my marriage. “
Start a plan to begin doing things right in your M, and learn how to forgive yourself. Start over with yourself as well.
I realize that all these things are easier said than done.
God bless,
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bumpity bump bump bump bump! Arriba!!
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Ok Pep & gentlsoul GOT IT
Thank you all so much for your support and encouragement. I really want to get through this and make my marriage strong & happy again. I have so many people that love me and I want to deserve their love again. I will keep reading your posts and try doing what is suggested. Yes my hubby has a lot of faults but then again so do I. One thing I don't think I've told you here is that our relationship also started as an affair 25 years ago. We got married and had a horrible time at first because of my immense jealousy of his children--I did not grow up with a father or a loving mother---so hence did not understand the love of a parent towards their children. Also I was sexually abused growing up several times and I felt he was also a molester because of the love he had for his children. Thank god for our DD because the day she was born I UNDERSTOOD IT ALL. From that day forward my relationship with my hubby and step kids got 110 % better. I then understood the love you have for your child was not something sexual or sick.....
WOW I sure have a lot of issues don't I!!!! But with all your help and my families I will make it thru this and be a better wife & mother...THAT IS MY ULTIMATE GOAL. And to feel worthy of this wonderful life I have been given...
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Just wanted to let you know my hubby just called me and he bought us both copies of Relationship Rescue...He wants to save this marriage as much if not more than I do. But like I just told him (he knows I'm here but not what the exact site is) I don't know if I deserve his love and our marriage.
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I strongly recommend you show him this site and this thread.
Sunlight is the best disinfectant - for all problems.
He may need the insight and support of other guys in his sitch. This is the best palce to find it - as you have.
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You deserve to be happy
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you are ALSO deciding that your HUSBAND does not deserve to be happy!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />
and you don't wanna ruin his life do ya?
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Yes I guess we all deserve to be happy I just need to start forgiving myself. And I can't show hubby this thread just yet but hopefully in the future when everything comes out...
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by confusedwoman: Yes I guess we all deserve to be happy I just need to start forgiving myself. And I can't show hubby this thread just yet but hopefully in the future when everything comes out... </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I highlighted all your *qualifier* wording to point them out to you.
Read what you wrote as written. Then read it once more omitting the highlighted words.
See the difference in power when you stop using qualifier wording?
Part of your healing is giving yourself permission to have the POWER over your own life.
The qualifier words weaken you.
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CW - Quote from you on other thread: _______________________________________________ I have bad days when I'm missing the OM. I let myself think about all the e-mails, phone conversations and times we were together. But I'm holding strong and not making contact with him. He e-mails me once a week to say hi and he hopes I'm doing ok. He also calls about once every 2-3 weeks. I have quit telling him how much I miss and love him because he would just say I know. We even talked of marriage and a future together but I know deep in my heart that it could never be what a marriage is suppose to be. What I'm having such a hard time with is missing his love. My hubby thinks it was just an online & phone affair and I can never tell him the truth. It's hard to be in counseling when you are hiding half your heart & soul from your spouse. I'm doing better every day but have my really bad days. And I know I have a long long way to go.
I just don't understand why I'm so angry at my hubby for the affair ending. The OM broke it off because he said he could not be the cause of breaking up a family. Our biggest problem is that there has been no sexual attraction to my hubby since we got married 20 yrs ago and he's quite aware of it. But he's willing to forgo that for the rest of our good qualtites (his words) But then knowing what I could have with AM how can I live like this the rest of my life. God I wish I could just be brainwashed and feel for my hubby like I did the other man....We used to be best friends until the death of my Mom a year ago. And an emotional affair that happened at work which he knows a bit about but not the whole story. My mothers death was very hard on me and the fall out really did a lot of damage to our marriage--but it's a long long story. Let's put it this way he was on my step-dads side and I was on my siblings side and it hurt me more than he could ever know.
Has anyone else gone through no sexual attraction and gotten it back???? The counsler asked why I wanted to save my marriage and my list is as follows, does anyone think I can save my marriage and not be so bitter towards my hubby?
1. Our 17 DD 2. His 30 SS & His 27 SD 3. What we've built the last 20 yrs (Material things and I know no one could love me like he does) 4. Our Friends & Family
Sorry if I'm rambling but my heart & mind are in such turmoil and I feel so LOST..... _______________________________________________
You've also said at one point you were suicidal and that your H could be if he knew the whole truth of your PA.
CW - as I said a few times before, I hope you will totally disconnect from OM. He said he broke it off with you because he didn't want to break up your family. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> Too late. He broke it off because he found someone else to prey upon, you know that right? I know he still calls you, but get rid of that guy. He's poison to you right now at such a critical juncture in your M right now. Send him a No Contact letter - please, for your sake. His presence skews your thinking about how you feel about your H.
And, open up everything to your H. Honesty is the only way. The whole truth - get the lies and deception out of you like the toxic energy that it is. Be safe though, as you've said he is possessive and controlling. Your MC will help you.
Until OM is gone totally and honesty is the environment you are in....MC and everything else cannot work. You've been married a long time and said your H was your best friend. I hope you find the courage to commit to your best friend and give it everything. You can get feeling back, even sexual attraction.
Remember....an action plan will give you strength. It's a long tough road, but so worth it in the end. For H and for you. Hang in there. GS
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Is there any suggestions on how I write the NC letter? I don't even know where to begin with that. My husband and I started doing the Relationship rescue book and wow what a revelation. We both want to save our marriage, mostly for the same reasons, which I think is a good thing. I'm starting to focus and remember all the wonderful things about him and our lives together before my affairs. And his affair.
I will try to talk to our MC about the depth of my affairs but right now I don't feel I can tell him the whole story. One was physical and one was semi-physical---no sex
I did tell him about the withdrawal part and he seemed to understand it. He is trying to work on his possessiveness and controling ways, which is great for us both. We have so many friends and family behind us and that helps so much.
I thank you all for your words of advice and support. I feel less lost every single day thanks to all of you. And wow that book is amazing. I will get the books that have been suggested by all of you.
Keep it coming cause I'M LISTENING!!!
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Hi CW ~ I'd order a copy of Dr. Harley's book, "Surviving an Affair". It provide excellent advice in a number of areas. You can order it through this website.
Here is a sample No Contact letter:
**OM**, I want you to know that out of respect and love for my husband, I have come to realize that I must never see or talk with you again. My relationship with you was a cruel indulgence that my husband did not deserve. While I cannot completely repay my husband for the pain that I have caused him, I will do my best to become the wife he has been missing. I care a great deal for my family and I would not want to do anything to risk their happiness. I will not make any further contact with you and I do not want you to make any contact with me. Please respect my desire to end our relationship. Sincerely, **Confusedwoman**
Hope the above helps. CW, please think about telling your H everything...and all at once. Honesty really is the best policy. It's you and him against the world, and once you get in that frame of mind (with no secrets) it's a great place to be.
Write when you need help. GS
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Thank you for your "sample" NC letter. Can I send it via e-mail or regular mail? I know I need to let go of the things he's given me, his class ring, pictures of himself, perfume, jewelry but I don't know if I'm to that point yet. I'm doing better every day and the hubby and I are discussing more and more details about the A, but he still doesn't know we met in person. I don't know if I can come clean about it just yet. Heck, I'm just now finding out details about his affair 18 yrs ago and trust me it's much easier now then it would have been 18 yrs ago. I have forgiven him (as far as I know) lol But we are in counseling and I think its helping along with reading Relationship rescue. I'm also going to have him pick up so other books I've heard about in here.
We had a pretty amazing weekend here!!! So keep praying for us and our marriage everyone!
A much happier CW
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