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CONDELEZZA IS NOT A GODDESS AND SHE IS NOT MARRIED!!!!!
Georgia, I'm sorry to keep teasing you! We will surely meet in HEAVEN.....
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Mimi..I really haven't spent much time thinking about this, so you're not teasing me.
Yep...I'm satisfied with the Heaven meeting.
But....how do you know Condi's not a GODDESS?
Georgia
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Georgia:
I know you're not there. Before I forget, though, I want to take that back about Condi not being a GODDESS! I'm not liking her style though. I can't imagine her in pink 'shades....
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GG,
I'm following your thread and all the developments. Hang on there! Better timeas are coming. You'll soon have your own house.
I'm very busy with work and barely have time to keep up with my own thread but I always read yours. Just don't have much to say to you that can be of any help.
I'll miss you today. at 10 am for me, I try to log on because I know you'll have posted your "good morning"!
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In that case,I'd better do a quick "Good Morning" ...
We had a very succesful meeting with the FAA yesterday, but that's another story entirely.....
Last night #1S/DIL, #1S's roomate from college,and myself did something I haven't done since college. We played racquetball !! I loved racquetball in college. It was one hour of very intense work out. I found that I still enjoyed it as much as in college, and I certainly need the exercise right now. However, I did fall one time and hit the floor really hard. I caught my fall with my right hand and now I've got a very badly bruised and swollen hand. I don't think there is any major damage, just a little sore. I am surprised that none of my other muscles are sore today, but they're not.
Afterwards, we went to a local coffee shop that has great sandwiches and had a nice time just relaxing and talking together. DIL is so excited about her teaching opportunity, I know she will be so good with kids.
Tomorrow is her graduation, she is so excited about it!! I got her the PDA she was wanting, and of course #1S has her the painting.
Georgia
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Georgia:
I guess you may have noticed that I got in trouble and misbehaved while you were gone yesterday.
A GODDESS will do anything for attention, right?
I'm back on track today. I will try to stay on course in the future.
LEARNIN' AND GROWIN'.....
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Yes, Mimi...I did see that. In fact, I was just reading some of your misadventures.
I don't remember which of your friends said it...but to me the one that really got it right was where you were called "human". (Even GODDESS's are human, right?).
I know that EVERYONE here loves you and has such high regard and respect for you. I'm sure that this has only grown stronger as we all see your stuggles the same as ours. After all, we don't want just a "superficial" MIMI, we want to see the real deal. Right?
Georgia
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You also are seeing me LEARNIN' AND GROWIN"!!!!
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Good Morning to all -
DIL's graduation was wonderful. #1S/DIL, DIL's g'mother, and myself all went together. We had to leave here at 6:45 AM Saturday so it made for a long day. #2S/DIL joined us at the graduation. We all had a wonderful lunch afterwards and enjoyed all being together as a family.
DIL loved the Jim Booth painting that S got for her. She unwrapped it in the restaurant after lunch. I got her a PDA (something she's been wanting) as she was excited about that too.
There was still some sadness that we were all together having a great time, but WW wasn't there. It may sound harsh to say this, but it's getting to where she seems like less and less of an issue when we all get together. I was talking to my friend yesterday afternoon (ran into him in a restaurant) and we were talking about how life goes on....things don't just stop and stand still because of the situation with me and WW. And.....I see it as kind of like the rest of the family is a ship, trudging on through the waters. But...WW decided to get off and go for a swim, thinking that the ship will stop and wait for her. However, when her little skinny dip is over with, the ship is long since gone. Alright, I pointificate. Sorry.
I talked to the homeowner Saturday and they were moving out of the house yesterday. I called my agent and told her that if all parties were agreeable, I'd be willing to close sooner. Supposed to be Tuesday, May 24. Knowing that WW and her attack dog are aware that at least I'm shopping for a house makes me nervous. I'll feel better when I am the owner and the papers are signed.
I'm going to be really busy today. I'm going to Atlanta tonight and spending the night. I'm catching an early flight out tomorrow morning to Houston for the day only, back home tomorrow night.
Hope all is well with my all my friends.
Georgia
Formerly G.G. and Jeb Me: BS 50 She: xW 50 Jeb: Mini Schnauzer Married: 29 yrs Children: MM25, MM23 Plan B - 12/06/04 Divorced - 11/17/05
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Good Morning, Georgia: It was primarily your influence that encouraged me to call my mother. I said thanks to PEP when I meant to say thanks to you. I appreciated PEP's urgings. However, what primarily got to me was the reference to PROVERBS and asking myself what my grandmother would want me to do. Although my parents were divorced and my GM disapproved of alot of my mother's actions and ways, she continued to love my mother "like a daughter" as she always said. So, as usual, my M sounded needy and clearly was giving messages for ME to take care of HER through this. I have knowledge and influence which is helpful. Also, she was comforted by my offer of emotional support. Yes, she does have ovarian cancer. The extent of involvement remains uncertain. She will go to a major medical center for more information about treatment, prognosis, etc. in the next few days. I will keep you posted. I will have to admit. Our son is definitely "A PLAYER". Ask Reggie what this means and he will be glad to explain. By the end of the day on Saturday, he couldn't decide which "young lady" he wanted to bring to dinner so we said forget it. My FWH is none too happy about his son taking on some of his former ways. Well, at least, our son is "sowing his wild oats" before he is married. Marriage seems to be a long way off for him. H stated that he thinks it would be better for him if he would "settle down". <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I think the following statement of yours is insigntful. WW decided to get off and go for a swim, thinking that the ship will stop and wait for her. However, when her little skinny dip is over with, the ship is long since gone. My H refers now to his time with the OW as his time away as if he was on a long trip. He tried to find his way home when he believed that I was going to keep going and not stand still and wait for him. YOUR ANALOGY IS WONDERFUL!! Thanks for being there, my friend!!
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I love your analogy about the swim. It's describes exactly what I now feel is my situation. I have arrived at a calm and accepting place now. Hope it will last. Last saturday my 83 yr old aunt celebrated her birthday by having a reading of "love letters" chosen by her and read by her group of friends who get together to study literature once a week. The love letters part was ok, but at the end they had a surprise for the audience: one of the friends was going to read and act a letter she had written for a contest and had won a prize for. It was fiction. The letter was from the OW who had left with her husband ten years before, telling her that the WH had now left with another OW. And she now wanted the BS to join her in the business they had set up with the WH as revenge. The lady reading commented and told the story of how this OWhad been her friend and then ran off with her WH and how horrible her life had been since then and finally decides to accept the offer.
The worse part was that the OW's name was my OW's name and her description (except for the part of her being a friend) was exactly that of my OW's!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I flinched a couple of times, I admit, but I didn't leave. The worse part was that one of my dds was there too.
One of these days I will tell my aunt that I absolutely don't agree with the letter... with my newfound wisdom about the subject of infidelity.
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Hi Mimi..
Busy time in your life, isn't it?
I am so glad that you called your Mom, I really am. There is nothing like having regrets that you can never undo, good that you're taking care of this NOW. I know there are so many things that she has done wrong, but you are being a living example of what to do RIGHT.
I think I can figure out the PLAYER thing without Reggie's input. Wow, I thought he had met someone he thought might be "the one". I guess he's still trying to narrow it down!! Good he solicits your input, but this is one decision he might want to make on his own. And...I think it great that your H is uncomfortable with OS's ways. It is unfortunate that lots of Dad's "encourage" their sons in this area to sample the field (in an unhealthy way). Isn't it kinda ironic that H wants OS to "settle down"? Makes me truly believe that H really is FWH.
That must comfort you A LOT, right?
cc - Thank you for your comments as well. I think it is cool that your 83 y.o. aunt studies literature. I suspect this helps keep her mentally sharp.
I understand your pain on the OW letters. I don't think that "fictious" letter writer really grasps real life. For the BS, it's not about "revenge", it's about moving on and being comfortable with yourself, living your own life and not allowing the WS to have control over your well-being. Revenge doesn't fit into that picture, IMO.
I had an opportunity to have a long talk with DIL's mother on Saturday. For the record, I refer to her as her "mother", but she's actually no kin at all, but raised DIL as her D. I will call her DIL's M for simplicity, but she is 70 y.o. DIL's real M is still alive, not very active in DIL's life, lives in South Florida.
Anyway, DIL's "mother" told me she had a long talk (over 1 hour) on the phone with WW recently. She said WW tried to blame the whole thing on me, told her how unhappy she was. DIL's M told WW that she made absolutely no sense and that she was making the worst mistake of her life in having an R with OM. WW said that I was turning her kids against her, but DIL's M told her that she was turning her own kids against her and it was not me that was doing it.
She told me how DIL has tried to hard to get WW to love her. DIL could really use that, she has been through so much in her short life. If WW and DIL could have bonded, that would have been so great for both of them. I must say that DIL has gone WAY out of her way to try hard, and has shown nothing but love to WW, but WW has been harsh and critical towards her in return. Almost like she isn't good enough for #1S. So sad...she could have been so blessed to have DIL in her life and found such love in this R. I revel in the love DIL shows me. She now calls me "Dad", which really makes me feel good and appreciated.
Georgia
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Your WW is beginning to sound "narcissistic" to me. If you are interested, research "Narcissitic Personality Disorder". Google it. Narcisstic ways are characteristic of those involved in an A. NARCISSITIC PERSONALITY DISORDER is a longterm chronic problem.....
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Diagnostic Criteria A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements) is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions) requires excessive admiration
has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes Hummmm...Mimi, that is an interesting fit, isn't it? I wonder if her IC is thinking any of this, or looking at that. I'll read about it later when I have more time. Georgia
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The thinking is that folks that are truly PERSONALITY DISORDERED (as opposed to just showing traits) do not profit from psychotherapy because they do not see themselves as having any problems. Personality-disordered folk tend to drive others into psychotherapy because of the problems they create.
What really struck me is how she has treated your DIL. It's like she couldn't share attention with her. She wants it all.
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All -
I will be leaving here soon. I will not be able to post again until Wednesday morning.
Mimi...you know the drill. You're in charge.
I am meeting with my attorney Wednesday afternoon and I'm not nearly finished with this long list of stuff, but I need to meet with him anyway.
I think the time has come to stop responding with kindness and I'm going to tell him I'm ready to show me how agressive he can be. I'm also going to suggest the list of things we want her to produce, among them:
1. Her e-mails with any other men for the past 5 years. 2. Her long distance phone records for the past 2 years. 3. A record of any trips outside the US for the past 12 months and the reason for them. 4. A record of any gifts she has given / received relating to any men other than her H or family members for the past 5 yhears.
Any other thoughts?
Oh...and I think I might throw in a request for a restraining order as she may have a propensity for violence. (Remember the Georgia Tea Party and the hammer on the bedroom door episodes?).
One thing I've never report here, or told anyone else. About 2 1/2 years ago, not related to OM, she actually kicked me as hard as she could once. Left a huge bruise on my shin. I restrained myself and didn't respond in kind.
The offense? I sold our old microwave too cheap at a garage sale when we were moving into our new house.
Georgia
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Have a great trip!
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Thanks, Mimi....
Jeb is spending the night with Grandparents tonight.
Georgia
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That is so "sweet" of them to take care of JEB.
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