You're right about DS. I've already explained the affair to him in general terms. I told him the OM was behaving with mommy like only daddy should. That's why he had to go home. No gross details. I had originally put into the D paperwork, no contact with OM or his belongings. I let her take it out and write it up on a separate agreement that I can use if contact ever happens in the future. She knows I don't want his name mentioned around DS ever again. No pictures.... anything!


He's with me for 3 weeks. Hopefully enough time for WW to come further out of the fog. She's on a plane now, but is still deathly afraid that I'm going to have her arrested when she arrives. She was arrested for Domestic Violence the night I sent OM home. Spent two days in jail. It just pissed me off they would lock up a woman like that given the circumstances. It physically and emotionally traumatized her. I hope we can spend the next few days relaxing and being comfortable around each other again.

I've used a similar reply to that. While going through the divorce paperwork last night. She was concerned at how little money she would have after giving me half of the assets. I told her I know it's expensive. It would be cheaper if we could stay married and learn to love each other.

WW: "Well I suggested just being separated last week"

Me: "I never heard that one. I would be more than happy to separate instead of divorce, but that would still mean we're married."

WW: But when you're separated, you can date other people.

Me: The court may say that's OK, but if we're still married, I don't believe we can see other people."

WW: "We'll talk about that tomorrow."

It occurred to me that her dad told her that he should never have divorced her mom years ago. That really made her feel bad at the time. Do I raise that again during our conversations, or won't it make it through the fog?

SIS

Hi, Sleepless.

Evidently, I have missed something. What is the reason for discussing divorce with your wife?

All the best,
Gimble

Yep you missed. it. WW wife was arrested by the police the night I sent the OM home from my house. Hit the Just Found Out Page on Feb 27 for details. a regular soap opera.

I called the police when she started throwing things, and I thought the situation was coming unglued. She left a bite mark on my arm. The police HAVE to arrest someone by law. She spent 40 hours in jail. The courts filed NO charges and I'll have the arrest record expunged in a month.

Anyway, she said we HAD to get a divorce and that we could work on the relationship after that. There's a 90 day hold period.

So, she filed paperwork today at the county court, then we went to Tiffany's to have her necklace that I bought her fixed, and then we went to dinner with our son.

I told her none of this would have happened if she hadn't had the affair with the OM 19. She didn't like that much.

Bizzarre twist tonight. I have a 48 year old woman renting a room in my house. She was there the night of the exposure and has become a good friend. She seems to be on my side. She's only talked to Lirio once.

Today, she called from a bar 4 blocks away, and invited my wife out for a drink!!!?????

I've told the roomate all about MBs. I've told her the principles..... BUT I HAVE NO idea what they're talking about. They've been gone for over two hours!!!

I gave WW her anniversary gift. She gave mine away to our oldest son. OK.

I made up a separate room with flowers and chocolates for her. We watched the Incredibles with DS. Laughed.

She doesn't think Steve Harleys theory will work. I interupted her sentence on the way home, and she said, "see that's already annoying me. This will never work out" I told her we could at least give it a try. She said you've got 90 days for me to fall in love with you. Sounds like a challenge.
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I just stayed calm and let her be. Then she asked if I was OK emotionally. And I told her I was fine. Have a good time with my roomate. I'll be here on the couch watching the History channel.
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Hi, Sleepless.

No, I caught the original tussle between you two.

What I don't understand is why you are discussing divorce with her if you have no intention of divorcing her. Are you, or are you not, going to divorce her.

I am concerned with the message you are sending her. All she hears is that she has to last 90 days while you treat her like a princess. She has already made her decision.

If the approach you are taking is not sanctioned by Steve Harley, then let's talk about this and see if we can come up with a better track than the one you are on.

Oh, and I am glad that she was arrested. A female has no more right to violence than a male. What she did was wrong. What she is doing is to continue to blame you for her embarrassment. It was her fault. Stop accepting any blame for it, even if you were mad when you called the police.

All the best,
Gimble

Ah Gimble. I love your challenges. Keeps me on my toes.
I cannot stop the filing for divorce. She can do that with or without me. What I did do it cause her substantial financial pain in preparing docs. The state has a 90 period for cooling off. In that time, I can make the divorce much more difficult. I had to decide whether to play hardball up front or in the 5th inning.

I pressed the fact that it was not my fault she was arrested. I continued to push the OM's responsibility. She continues to defend OM as not responsible. It's her fault she says. She has read the MB site (some) and says the ideas seem reasonable, but she does not buy in to total separation from OM who is just a friend. I said that was a problem, as was previous boyfriend who she has clung to emotionally.

She's not off the hook for divorce or A. But she is in denial and fog.

I rubbed her feet until she fell asleep and then rubbed her back in her bed for 10 mins. Then I left.

She gets princess treatment until July when I drop the hammer. I'll call Steve Harley next week to confirm process.

Regarding arrest. I don't defend her behavior, but I think 2 days locked up with felons is excessive. There are other means to reprimand inappropriate behavior that are not as severe as that.

Anyway. Two more days of Plan A to go. Pray for my calm and the right Reverse Babble.

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Wait a minute, Sleepy, I'm with Gimble on this - confused.

Who filed for divorce and when?

If you filed for divorce, why, and why haven't you stopped it?

Sleepless,

I wanted to let you know that you should have recourse in the area of the divorce. When your wife filed for D, did you sign the joinder? It would have been the last piece of paper in the petition that says you agree with the petition. That makes it an uncontested divorce.

If she had you served, you should have had 20 days to respond. At that point, if you agreed to the terms she filed it is also uncontested.

In Washington, you do have the 90 day waiting period and after that an UNCONTESTED divorce can go through. If you contest it, you've got about a year before that divorce will be final.

I signed the joinder when my WH first filed D. I figured it was easier to go along and not make him mad. It seemed sensible.

Then I found MB. And once I really thought about it, I was giving him my power on a silver platter. I didn't want the divorce. Why was I making it easy.

So, I went down to the courthouse and as it turns out, it takes about 90 seconds to revoke the joinder. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

At that point the divorce was contested and the terms changed:

At 90 days he would have been able to go down to the courthouse to get a trial date. Those run about 9 months out in Pierce County due to the heavy caseload. I'm not sure what King County would be, but it's probably somewhere in that ballpark.

He was mad. He griped about how I had misled him and was so dishonest.... blah blah blah.

I told him I did not believe the marriage was "irrevocably broken". That's the only basis for D in Washington State. If I signed that joinder or any other piece of paper that said it, I was purgering myself and I wasn't willing to do that.

So, you may want to look into that route. I used the opportunity of telling him the reasons behind my revoking the joinder to tell him how much I believed in my ability to work on myself and my absolute belief in him and our marriage. He couldn't very well insist I lie in court documents <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I got the whole "You may not believe it's over but it is" line. Well, since I didn't believe there was no chance I wasn't going to enter into a legal agreement and claim I did.

So, look into it. We were counseling with SH at the time when I revoked the joinder. SH agreed it was the best thing to do for saving the marriage.

Stop that divorce however you can until you are ready for it.

That's just my advice from my own situation.

I hope your visit is going good. I've been thinking about your situation a lot.

I've got to go get some yard stuff done while it's sunny. I hear we're in for another day of stormy weather. Can you believe the afternoons lately?

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SIS... just a quick note of advice.

You're a man. The law may not favor you. Well, the law itself may be indifferent, but the courts may not favor you.

I don't see a good reason for you to allow your W's record to be cleared.

You should make sure that nothing, nothing, nothing is more important than what is best for your DS. You may feel that what's best for your DS is saving the marriage, and you're right, but the courts might not see it the same way.

Protect your son, protect yourself, and then take what's left and try to save the M.

GC

Hi, Sleepless.

I see that you have gotten excellent advice on the divorce issue from WAT, FIM and graycloud.

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Is this something that you did routinely before the affair?

Did/does she reciprocate?

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I don't think that a couple of days spent with like-minded people, in a situation that makes examples for rather concrete boundaries, was a bad way for her to spend her time.

Please read my tag line. Where do you think your wife's sense of entitlement comes from?

All the best,
Gimble

WAT Faith in Me, Greycloud and Gimble!

1. I played nice with the divorce paperwork and signed the Joinder to see how this week would go. I needed my son home, information and some Plan A time.

2. I'm expecting an angry WW when I change the rules. She keeps asking if I'm going to keep my son, and up until this week (today) I was planning on sending him home. Right now, I don't know.

3. I saw her E-Mail account today and discovered she's been flirting with her married ex-fiancee and he's flirting back. She's sending notes to her last boyfriend before me (Soulmate) and she's shipping the OM over next weekend.
Looks like the OM and her mother have been warning her not to trust me and pretend to be nice.

She's breaking up our accounts now at the credit union.

I'll need several hours to read through all of her E-mail between her and the OM who she said didn't write to her anymore.

Keep praying. Enjoy the sun FIM

Hi, Sleepless.

Here is what I suggest you do in short order.

1) Revoke the agreement.

2) Don't send your son off with mommy unless you like the idea of him potentially calling a bunch of different men that visit mommy - UNCLE.

3) Contact the 'married ex-fiancee's wife and send her a copy of the emails.

4) Double check that she has ONLY messed with her money - see for yourself, don't take her word for it.

5) Exercise caution with her. She may very well call the cops on you in an effort to 'equal the score'. A TRUSTED witness might be very handy to have around for a few days.

It appears that your wife has every intention of considering herself divorced as soon as there is a separation. She is mate shopping.

All the best,
Gimble

Sleepless,

I couldn't agree with Gimble more. I've been trying to post here for a while now but it takes an Act of God to get in here these days.

I would get down to the courthouse and revoke that joinder NOW. I literally did it on a plain sheet of paper. I wrote down the case number and the plantiff vs. defendant stuff.

Then, under that:

1.1 I hereby appear (this has some legal reason but I can't tell you what. I had a nice lawyer standing at the counter next to me who told me what to write)

1.2 I hereby revoke my joinder to case number 123454 filed on July 8, 2004.

Then I signed and dated it, turned it in the the clerk and was done.

You really need to protect yourself here.

I didn't want to upset WH which is why I signed the joinder to begin with.

You know what.... THAT WAS A SELFISH REASON! I wanted to make it easier for everyone.

Sometimes doing what is right isn't the easy thing though.

You don't believe in this divorce at this time.

It is YOUR responsibility, YOU ARE the rational one right now.

It's not easy and I know it. It is scary and you can't get the "what-if's" out of your head.

But I guarantee you she is setting everything up right now to benefit her and not caring about you, your son, your family, your marriage or really, even herself. She is an ADDICT right now making sure she can continue to get her fix.

She is absolutely playing nice for HER benefit. Not yours.

Unless you want this divorce and want it exclusively under her terms, my suggestion would be the same as Gimble's (Gimble is a pretty smart cookie <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> )

1. Revoke that joinder.... you've got time left today and all day tomorrow. DO NOT WAIT FOR THE WEEKEND.

2. Get your son safe. I don't know if you read my story or not, but my WH went from a posterchild for fatherhood to willingly walking out on his three kids and not even supporting them to be with OW. You may think she won't do this, or won't do that, but you know what..... SHE COULD.

3. She's at the bank? Honey, you're in trouble there. You need to find out exactly what is going on. I know that when I tried to get our joint account into just one of our names, I couldn't do it. We both have to be there. WATCH OUT. She's on the move and you need to know exactly what is happening. Hell, I'd refuse to take your name off of anything if I were you and refuse to let her off of anything between the both of you. Open up your own account to protect what you have to, but keep yourselves married in everyway as she tries to separate all aspects of your life. Even if you only keep $5.00 in there.....it's a joint account.

4. As she is trying to create her harem.... let those others who are affected know about it. Married ex..... oh yeah.... forward those emails.

It is scary I know. You don't want to make your WS mad. But you know what.... you have to do it. I will always wonder what would have happened had I pulled out all the stops earlier than I did. You can't allow fear to rule your actions.

Stand up and do what you know you need to. If she gets mad.... well, she'll live. And so will you.

Good luck to you. You are in my prayers, Sleepless. BTW.... We just had a huge rainstorm and it looks like it's heading your way <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

FIM

Jeez you guys. I thought I was being strategic getting my son back and trying to Plan A for a week. It's hard to do while she's in Europe. Let's see if I can make you proud.

I set up a separate account from her with an automatic deposit to me. I also have a separate account with almost as much money. But I didn't like it very much.

I'll revoke the joinder on Monday after she's gone. Unless someone can give me a GREAT reason to do it tomorrow. I'm not nervous, I thought I was being strategic!. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> I didn't want her to fly into a rage and get arrested again. That's just too much work! Yes, I'm a wuss. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> Roll Eyes are back. WTG Melody Lane!

I copied the last two months of her E-Mail onto CD for my future lawyer. There are over 80 of them! I read her mom's E-Mail. She's a B$^#%^. I used to be her favorite!


We went out to a friends party at Jillian's, a Seattle billiards establishment. We laughed and played pool with DS8 and she saw some old coworkers of mine to laugh with. Ate Buffalo wings and drank a nice NW amber. I looked handsome, secure and charismatic. I even flirted with her to some affect. I schmoozed with the girls from the office (In their 20s). WW mentioned "She's kind of cute, is she single?" No, she's really sweet and married.

We came home to do taxes and she found my E-Mail open and started reading. Ooops. She saw messages to my parents about MB and her "affair". She doesn't like the word affair because she didn't have sex on a technicality. She thinks I'm sullying her reputation by calling it an affair.
"I'm sorry you don't like the term affair." I replied, and left it at that.

I made her tea for her sore throat (Pike Place Market Spice tea FIM). She asked, "Is this from your MB site?" I said, no, it's for your sore throat." I don't care what your website says, I'm not coming back to you. OK I said.

She has cramps and migraines from her period, and her arm is going numb from a pinched nerve. I helped her get to bed, like I always used to and massaged her neck and back with oil. "Why are you doing this, she asked" "Because I need you healthy to finish the taxes tomorrow." I replied.

I think I'm getting the hang of this.

Back to saving the marriage. Now that she's corresponding with OM, and two old boyfriends, can I stop THREE affairs and get us back together. Seems like a tall order! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

She flies home Saturday. DS is here for three weeks....and maybe longer. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I'll repeal the Joinder Monday and talk to Steve Harley. I'm going to call OM's father next week and "accidentally" discover OM went to Europe. I would like to cancel the ticket. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />, but then I'm a little chicken. I need backup. Should I??? Big LBer. But sinfully fun. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I'll mail the E-Mails to Old Boyfriends wife.

Last thing. FIM, I love it when you call me "Honey" <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

Thank you everyone for following my saga. I want to be BobPure someday! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

Hi, Sleepless.

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I'll repeal the Joinder Monday and talk to Steve Harley. I'm going to call OM's father next week and "accidentally" discover OM went to Europe. I would like to cancel the ticket. , but then I'm a little chicken. I need backup. Should I??? Big LBer. But sinfully fun.
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I know that it seems I am picking on you, Sleepless, but I am not.

Cancel the ticket. Don't facilitate her affair. You can assume that the money for the ticket, or at least some of it, came out of your funds. She WILL get angry at you. She already is. Remember, she is trying to divorce you.

Another thing. Don't buy into her claims that she has not been physical. That is the last thing most wayward spouses will admit to, that is doubly true of wayward women.

A cheater is a liar. You can't be one without being the other. That means that your wife is extremely likely to not be telling you the truth about a lot of things, sex included. The thing is, she may not have been physical with someone else, but you simply can NOT assume that. Statistically, you can assume that she has.

Has Dr. Harley worked with you on the issues that you have brought to the marriage?

You can also assume that your wife is reading here, so any advice given to you is already, or will be known by her. I should think that will cause an immediate change in your strategy.

I know it is hard to work through this with a straight head, but you need to decide on a plan, a good one, then stick with it.

One last thing for now. You simply must put the fear away from you. Fear will incapacitate you, and wreck your best plans toward restoring your marriage. Fear is your worst enemy, even worse than the other man/men.

I don't know if I have told you this or not, but here is some hardcore truth for you. Pain has come to pay you a visit. You can't run or hide from it, and this pain is here to stay for a while. The only thing you can do with this pain is to decide how to live with it. What will matter to you later on, is how you conducted yourself while you dealt with this pain. Fear, avoidance, whining and feeling sorry for yourself will not only make it worse, it will make it last longer.

No one expects you to be superman, but your son needs a real solid person in his life - a hero. That is your job.

You did good getting your wife and son out for a family activity.

From this point on, if you leave the computer to take a leak, you log out, clear the cookies and history, and make sure that your email is closed.

Change all your passwords on all your accounts, including your banking. Repeat every couple of weeks.

I took a look at the pictures of you and your sons in the MB Photo Album. They are proud kids. It is easy to see some good fathering in them. I think that you have what it takes to walk tall through this.

All the best,
Gimble

Thanks again Gimble.

I know that it seems I am picking on you, Sleepless, but I am not.
I actually don't think that at all. You're providing a hard perspective to balance some of the other thoughts I have. I need your side to make good decisions.

I'm not worried about her getting angry with me. She just got done doing that on her way out of the house. She still claims it's not an affair and that she's not my wife.

I told her I thought that whole wedding thing meant she was my wife.

I DO NOT BUY into her claims of no physical relationship. That's just BS. But that's what she claims. I've been onboard with that for almost a month.

Dr. Harley has not yet worked on my issues specifically. I am somewhat of an enabler who doesn't like confrontation. I'm starting to have more fun with that now. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

I have to be careful though that my confronations are not destructive, and it's hard for me sometimes to recognize if I'm doing it out of spite or hurt or for the good of the family. I still have more work to do on the boundaries.

You simply must put the fear away from you. Fear will incapacitate you, and wreck your best plans toward restoring your marriage

Fear was an issue the weekend I found out. Fear knotted my stomach up tighter than I could imagine. But once I sent the OM home from my house. A great pressure was released. After I confronted my wife and took charge of our son, another pressure was released.

I don't have that incapacitating fear anymore. I feel like I'm moving chess pieces on a board and I want to win. I should realize that I can lose some pieces along the way and still win. My fear is making a wrong decision. Overeacting. I'm a logical person, and this isn't all that logical. I may be getting analysis paralysis. I'm to the point now where I'm doing it for my kids more than me, and I want to do the best I can.

<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />Pain came to visit me almost two months ago. I've been avoiding that pain for years. I took it right through the chest and the released it. I feel much better now. There will be more pain to come, but sometimes I feel like I'm pulling the wings off of a fly when I do some of this to my WW. I've started reminding myself that if she had a cocaine problem would I be willing to do it? That's helped.

Your not picking on me. I can handle it. I'm not that scared, and I'm not pain averse right now. But I sometimes need input from outside the battle to make sure I'm not crossing the line. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I checked the history. She hasn't been on here today.

Hi, Sleepless.

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You are playing a version of chess, but it actually is logical. The problem that keeps biting you is an incomplete understanding of the game.

Study what Harley has written about affairs. Study the experiences of others here. Eventually, you will see basic patterns emerge. Create abstracts from those general patterns. Then you can create basic rulesets. Once you have the rulesets, the logic of your situation will become observable to you and the game will come under your control.

Did you follow that?

Gimble

Actually very well. I read Bob Pure's original postings and it helped me immensely. I've seen messages from my wife and OM that have been completely hidden today. It's easy to see what's going on. We just had a very pleasant visit with guests that involved talks of our future, but after they left, she reiterated that we cannot be married, but we can be good friends and have great experiences like that. I want to be MARRIED and have great experiences like that. She's outta here tomorrow, and then her life is going to collapse. She's going to be sooooo pissed. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

With the game plan and scenario's set forth from other's experience, I can see the plan. Sometimes I'm not sure where I am. Now I realize that she's still deep in contact. I thought she was just mildly in contact. DS18 just called and asked how WE were doing. I said we had a good experience, but mom is still thinking other things. DS8 is not going back in May I decided yesterday. The information I gleaned yesterday confirmed my path.

She needs to choose between our WHOLE family or her lover.
The boys need to know what she chose in the future.

Good advice Gimble. Keep me on track.

I've read surviving an affair twice and gave it off to a friend who also needed it. I'll read throug Dr. Dobson's Love Must be Tough again this weekend to shore me up.

Anything besides that I should read???

Stay with me folks, it's about to get UGLY <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

But it's all for LOVE. When the pastor said for better or for worse.... WOW! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

FIM- First off. You have beautiful children.

Second. Thanks for the D paper help. I'll do the Joinder retraction myself and call a lawyer the same day.

Today was the last day of Plan A in person. Started rocky. Ended with WW with a cold in bed. I made tea, got her water, medicine and rubbed her back until she fell asleep. At least she'll have good memories of me.

OM and she are hot and heavy. Question. She claims there was no affair because of no sexual follow through. I'm sure they were intimate at her hotel in DC when she was there on business. She doesn't think I'm her husband anymore. I guess that's why it's not an affair? Her mother doesn't think WW actions w OM is an affair. MIL is going to be DS8's next nanny. THAT"S ALL I NEED>

Two son's cannot believe that mom's activity is acceptable. They CANNOT think that if they marry and life gets tough, they can find happiness somewhere else. I will not be party to that.

That's all for now. I'm shipping her out tomorrow.

Last question. How contained do I keep the affair info. Right now, only Immediate family, our pastor and two close friends know. By informing the rest of the world, do I make OM her only ally? Should I send evidence of affair to OM's father?

I'm looking for the line between exposure and damage.

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Hi, Sleepless.

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Read "His Needs, Her Needs" also by Harley. The goal in that read is for you to figure out what you contributed to the condition of your marriage, and to be ready to work with her on recovery when she comes to her senses.

I am glad that you have come to the place you are at now. I want to pass something on to you that is very basic, but often missed by the betrayed spouse.

The reason that your wife's change in character looks more alien than human is actually due to a change in her character. In order to accommodate her new lifestyle and reconcile her activities and bad choices with her previous life, she has had to change/lower her moral base. The things that she used to value such as honesty and integrity, she now must view as more 'gray' or as less deliniated. To her, a lie that facilitates her behavior is okay, because it 'feels so right, that it simply must be okay". She thinks to herself "God really doesn't mind if I lie, after all, he would certainly want me to be happy".

In your case, she tells you bizarre things and expects you to believe them. She reasons that she isn't married because she left her wedding ring at home. Or that the simple filing of divorce paperwork means that she is as good as divorced and is free to sleep around. All of this babble is normal for a mind with a different view of morality than yours. Add to this the guilt of her actions that she suffers from even with her shift of morality, stir in the resultant depression, and you have an alien on your hands.

If you can understand where she is operating from, you are better able to respond to the babble that seems to be vomited from wayward spouses by the bucket full.

Keep studying, Sleepless. Knowledge is not only power, it is what will enable you to save your marriage.

Al the best,
Gimble