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I write down every conversation I get to. It's so sad what WW has done to him. I keep hearing from more people how much he hates it there. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />


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Hi, Sleepless.

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I recommend that you not post anything here about what transpires between you/wife/lawyer.

I highly recommend that you do whatever it takes to get your son home safe.

Then I recommend that you feed your taker protein and steroids 6 times a day until it is satisfied.

God bless,
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-An affair is the embodiment of entitlement, fueled by resentment and lack of respect.
-An infidel will remain unreachable so long as their sense of entitlement exceeds their ability to reason.
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The Taker is eating bacon and eggs for breakfast, protein shakes for lunch, steak and potatoes for dinner and lifting weights before bed time.

The proverbial camel's back has been broken.

Clear?

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Hi, Sleepless.

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Crystal.

Have fun!
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I'll talk to you in a week or two.

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A little off subject. When coworkers and acquaintances ask,"How's your wife doing? Is she still in Europe?" Is is appropriate to reply, she's divorcing me and having an affair with a 19 year old. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

It's brief but revealing. Too harsh? I'm tired of saying "she's fine" or "we're having some tough times."



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Such replies constitute exposure IMO.

I believe that exposure is best performed with sniper accuracy rather than shotgun spattering. I would only expose to those people who may have a positive effect on ending the affair.

Why don't you ask your WW what she would have you reply ?

Consider carefully as exposure ALWAYS pisses off WS and is only worth it if theres tangible affair-ending benefits for YOU IMO.

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I had the problem yesterday where WW asked some of our dear friends to provide affidavits on her behalf and she made me sound pretty evil. So one of our dear friends made contact with me through a friend to ask WTF?! I sent a detailed statement of fact from my perspective since the time the affair was exposed. She didn't like that I told my side of the story very much, but I had no choice. They would never have known if she hadn't dragged this into court and dragged them in on her behalf. I asked my lawyer to tell her lawyer to explain how this works and that everything now becomes public record. I'm afraid her lawyer has not explained the consequences of her actions. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

No one else need to know the details. We're just getting a divorce. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

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Sleepless, you said your WW has Top Secret Security Clearance at the US Embassy. Have you heard anything about what her employers think about what's going on? Do they know? Her behavior seems somewhat erratic, to say the least.


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I have not told any of the people at the embassy or anyone involved with her security clearance. Her behavior apparently was erratic for one coworker and former boss who called a mutual friend to ask what was going on. I sent her a message with the details. WW called her lawyer, our DS18 and her father in tears because I told her bosses. The people I sent it to are not her bosses now, but used to be. They have been very good social friends of ours and spent time with us and our children at our house and their houses. I have a hard time lying to people if they ask me why I'm doing "mean" things to my WW. I'm thinking she might be a FWW, but who knows.
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Hi, Sleepless.

Stick to what you have resolved to do. No wavering, no matter what anyone says about you.

Your wife raised the stakes to combat level when she involved your eight-year-old as a pawn.

Mercy is for after, not during.

God bless,
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Stick to what you have resolved to do. No wavering, no matter what anyone says about you.


No wavering here. But I can pity another human's self destruction. She chose her path and now she must deal with the consequences. I don't plan on losing, but I wish she would surrender rather than continue on this self destructive path.


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I'm sorry that you're going through all this...

I don't really know your whole story, but have been through the RO thing and had all contact with my son cut off for about 4 months. Been through the whole ringer, and bad. I really hope you have a good lawyer.

If you could clear one thing up though... why exactly are you not exposing across the board?

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Exposure is meant to stop the affair. I've exposed across the board to all relevant persons who have influence. My intention was to stop the A, not get to lose her position. Turns out her actions may cause that herself. Now I've had to fill in the blanks for some people when she was not honest about what happened, but the world didn't need to know at the time. I was balancing protection from humiliation with shining the light on it. Family, immediate friends exposed to the family, our pastor, all knew. She still tells our son she doesn't feel guilty about it. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />


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I was so sorry to read about where you are right now. Its hard to fathom her actons other than pure selfishness and a willingness to use your DS8 against you.
For someone so 'smart' to place you in a position of having to use every legal means to fight her allegations is amazing. How does she think it wont become public knowledge now?
Its even possible being in her position that the court media may pick it up now because shes chosen the venue it has to be sorted out in.
Most of all I am so sorry that your DS8 is caught up in it all.
I pray for his sake she will reconsider. Thoughts are with you.


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Gotcha... thanks. J.

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For someone so 'smart' to place you in a position of having to use every legal means to fight her allegations is amazing. How does she think it wont become public knowledge now?


If I knew that, I wouldn't be here. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />


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SIS,

One of your previous messages stated that you had a Hearing in Court yesterday. Did that go forward? How did you make out?

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SIS,

I am also curious for an update. I am completely mesmorized and baffled by your WW's actions.

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The trial date moved to May 31 on Tuesday so she could respond to my restraining order against her. She didn't like my proposal as much.

I received her testimony and affidavits on Tuesday. That put me at the lawyers all day Wednesday. My boss is Sooo understanding. I'm lucky to work with the people I do.
They got Krispy Kreme donuts for the trouble today.

Three of the depositions were pretty lame. Called me evil, vindictive, yada yada yada. My affidavits focused on the facts. The one that hurt was my 18 year old (adopted) son filed an affidavit stating I was lying. We had just had a conversation over the weekend about how bad he felt. I told him to talk to some of our adult friends to get advice on how to stay out of it, but he dove right in. I sent him a message telling him I was sorry he chose to lie to the court. He was angry and yelled that he didn't lie. He knows I asked four of our friends to call and talk to him about it.

This would all go away if she just returned DS8 and got counseling for her anger and depression.

DS8 called while I was at the lawyers office. You could HEAR WW in the background telling him what to say!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> I can't believe she would manipulate our son that way. "Hi dad I like it here. I like my school here better than Seattle... it's easier." She told him to ask, "Dad, why don't you call?" I said, there are people who don't want me to call you right now (restraining order). My wife whispered, "That's a lie". DS8 said, "Mom says you can call." I told him the police would be mad if I called, but next week , I should be able to call.

Big prayers for Tuesday morning. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Court date Tuesday. Hopefully I have my ducks in a row.


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