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Sorry Orchid, et al.
I'm here. I'm surviving. I was burning the candle at both ends and began falling asleep at the computer on two different occasions.
First off. S18 made contact. Lost his cel phone down in California and is just busy. Apparently he's not talking with WW either. He was surprised to hear that I was responsible for maintaining the house he's living in. I had to explain that while my name is on the title, I'm responsible.
I dropped DS9 down at the house where WW was staying for the weekend. He was packed for the weekend and ready to see mom, but not overly enthusiastic. Just friendly. She didn't even look at me as I drove off. She's mad about the judges ruling from last Tuesday.
I took the opportunity to fly down to Fresno for a visit to Yosemite and enjoy the beauty of the valley. Saturday night I started getting phone calls from my STBXWW that she didn't have a way to drop off DS9 Sunday afternoon before she flew back to Europe. I just called her at around midnight (woke her up <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />) and explained I would pick him up down there before she went to the airport. Oddly enough, she didn't try anything stupid. On Sunday, she asked further if I could take her to the airport, or did she need to take a cab. It was only 5 minutes in the car and I decided I would demonstrate high road behavior for DS9. Here come the juicy pieces.
When I picked them up, DS9 was happy to see me. WW still wouldn't look at me. But she did talk. We all sat in the truck on the bench seat. At one point, DS9 grabbed my arm, but WW placed it back on her arm. I let it go. I dropped her off and didn't even get a kiss! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />
After that I started to quiz DS9 on his weekend. Had his first soccer game, he scored a goal, and his team won! Did mom take pictures? "Yes, with your camera." The one she won't give back, but that's another story. I won't see them I'm sure.
We took off to the fair, and I got some more intersting comments.
"Mom says that she has to pay you money because she makes more." I said if she is, I haven't seen it.
"Mom says that she has to pay for your lawyer." No, I think you're confused, Daddy pays for his lawyer, and mommy pays for hers.
"We spent the day at (Mommy's lawyer's) house, and I got to play with her dogs. (WW's lawyer raises AKC German Shepherds and doesn't really practice much law)" DS9 really liked playing with the six puppies. "Mom's lawyer said she would give me one from the next litter." That is really nice of her DS9, because they're really expensive dogs. (It was nice. She usually charges $750)
"Mom says that the judge gave you custody because I was more friendly with you when the Dr. was there."
Me: DS9, that' just wrong.
DS9: "No it isn't."
Me: DS9, mommy wasn't there. I was. The judge made her decision based on mommy's and my behavior, not on ANYTHING you did or did not do. Trust me. Mommy's wrong.
DS9: Mommy said that sometimes judges decide where kids live based on what they want.
Me: You don't get ANY input on where you live in this case. The adults are making the decision for you so you don't have to pick between mommy and daddy. So you shouldn't worry about what you do at all.
I think I covered that OK. I need to get DS9 to the recommended counselor in the next week or so.
Otherwise, I'm really good. We saw cows, goats, and lambs at the fair. We rode some rides, and at the largest cone of cotton candy I've ever seen. My head was buzzing from the sugar about an hour later.
What doesn't kill us makes us stronger.
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Me: You don't get ANY input on where you live in this case. The adults are making the decision for you so you don't have to pick between mommy and daddy. So you shouldn't worry about what you do at all.
I think I covered that OK. I need to get DS9 to the recommended counselor in the next week or so. You did good, Dad. Keep reassuring him that he can love both of you. The judge made the right decision. Good for you for showing DS9 forgiveness and love by taking mom to the airport. And she didn't kiss you goodbye!??? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />
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Sorry for not updating after the meeting with the judge last Thursday. The original Court order stated that WW got DS9 back if she returned home. This was ordered by a commisioner and was contrary to the parenting evaluator's order.
This time we went in front of a judge. We asked that the judge ensure that I keep custody if she returns which is in line with the parenting evaluator's recommendation. FYI, both lawyers and the judge were women in their mid 50s. (Not that there's anything wrong with that! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />)
WW's lawyer started off complaining that there was no time for WW to respond to the parenting evaluator and even so, the parenting evaluator's recommendation was simply that, a recommendation, and you (judge) don't have to follow that or draw conclusions from that. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />
This is where I noticed an IMMEDIATE problem with WW's strategy. Don't tell the judge her job.
Judge: Thank you, but I think I can draw my own conclusions. (OUCH!! )
Once WW's lawyer was done shooting herself in the foot, the judge began to rewrite the order in detail. BTW, WW's lawyer continued with the B.S. about there not being any PA, just an EA.
Judge: Let's be honest here. If a 38 year old man had this type of relationship with a 19 year old, barely out of adolescence girl, we would all have a very poor view. I don't care if it was just emotional. But based on the E-Mails from Mrs. Sleepless, I don't think anyone believes it was just emotional.
If WW returns home, she will have visitation every other weekend and a Wednesday overnight on the opposite week.
If not, she will have visitation for any holiday's more than 5 days long, and she will have DS9 back in Seattle at least 72 hours before school starts in January.
Then she looked out at WW's lawyer and stated rhetorically, "There's no one crazy enough to send this child to Europe for a 1 week holiday."
WW's lawyer looked like a deer in the headlights and could only stammer. "Well, Mrs. Sleepless can't just come back to the U.S. any time."
The judge looked at her incredulously and challenged," She said in her affidavit that she's flexible. Surely she has vacation time she can use to visit her son." (ZING!)
The judge didn't wait for an answer. "If she wants to see her son, she needs to come back to the U.S. for midwinter break"
When WW's lawyer objected that with these severe judgements, what chance did WW have of any better custody arrangements in March when the final court date was set?
Judge: Well your client had better address some of her problems if she wants a more favorable judgement.
OK MEN. Give me a Boo YAH! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
WW called me the next day and asked if I was happy. "Yes, I['m very happy." <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Vindication is sweet. Does anyone else need ADs? I won't be needing the half bottle I have. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
On the walk out of the courtroom, my lawyer said, "OK, let's settle this. We get that same judge in March." <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />
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OMG
too good !
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Awesome!!! You have an excellent attorney. Like that judge too.
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--------------------> OUTSTANDING!! <--------------------
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Hooray!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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On a side note. I talked to S18 tonight. He told me about school. His change in major plans. His tennis team progress. AND, his upcoming trip to Yosemite on Saturday.
He's still a little stand offish. I think I may send him a picture I have of the three guys. DS9 was 1 day old, S18 was 9 and we all posed for our first pic.
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On a side note. I talked to S18 tonight. He told me about school. His change in major plans. His tennis team progress. AND, his upcoming trip to Yosemite on Saturday.
He's still a little stand offish. I think I may send him a picture I have of the three guys. DS9 was 1 day old, S18 was 9 and we all posed for our first pic. Great idea. What a dad! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> L.
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Damnit Gimble! How do you keep predicting WW's weirdness. Today, I discovered what she was cooking up.
The local police detective called and I'm under investigation. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> Oh Yippee. I'm not even going to tell anyone here what she cooked up, but if you try to imagine the most bizarre thing and back it off one notch, you're probably close.
Needless to say I'll be talking to yet ANOTHER lawyer. I'll meet with him on Monday to discuss yet MORE things. This sucks! I mean it sucks the life and money right out of you!
Today, I took off the ring. I've had enough. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
Couseling session with DS9 and the counselor went well. Seems like a really good guy. He asked DS9 and me some good questions. DS9 will go back next Thursday for another session.
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ok. I'm nosy.
You can't be a tease like that! Who needs a soap opera when your thread is active?
What are you being investigated for?
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Hi, Sleepless.
Quote: ====================================== Damnit Gimble! How do you keep predicting WW's weirdness. Today, I discovered what she was cooking up. ======================================
I am an old player. She is an easy read, and you are an easier mark.
There is nothing wrong with being naive and an upfront kind of guy. I have come to really treasure honesty in my life. It is a good thing to be honest Sleepless, but being shrewd is even biblically mandated.
I really think that you should discuss a restraining order against her with your lawyer. She is not going down without a fight. Expect more and worse. Tell your lawyer that you need her under control, whatever it costs.
That's what I suggest.
God bless, Gimble
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Arrrgh..... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> You know it is probably worse than anything we can imagine. YIKES!!! Aliens have that technique of attempting ot wreek havoc. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />
Well Seattle, let's get you to turn these lemons into lemonade. You know how, right?
Ok.... Here's my version.
PD: Mr. Seattle, you are being investigated because of charges files by Mrs. S.
SIS: Well Officer ________, I know this isn't a pleasant task for you and it isn't for me either. Especially when these charges are false. However, since Mrs. S has been pulling these kinds of stunts and now she is even attempting to manipulate the police, I will gladly work with your investigators. I hope your office will not only get to the truth but if you deem necessary (as my family believes), I hope it will be recommended the WS get some mental assistance. Let me know when I can share more info because I am concerned about the welfare of my children.
PD: Well I have a few questions to cover but go ahead and share your thoughts.
SIS: Due to the events caused by the WS which have upset our family, my son is now under the guidance of a counselor. It has not only been hard on myself but even our children. This makes me very sad. When I tried to get help for Mrs. S, she retorted with such hatred, it seemed like she was a different and cruel person. Very scary for all of us. She has been hurling false charges at me for a while now. Guess she feels she can get others to go along with her lies.
For my son and I, we have been working on being each other's support and I have been working with a counselor as well. Well, I don't want to take more of your time. Let's get to your questions.
PD: Thanks for sharing. It is good to see you are doing your best to be a good father. Here are the questions:.....
Hm.... don't shy away from the opportunity of sharing the truth. The WS can get very bold in their fog.
take care, L.
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SS,
No matter how innocent you are, do not directly answer any of the investigator's questions unless your criminal lawyer approves. You plan on getting a criminal lawyer, right? Lawyers tend to specialize, so you should look for one competent in the specialty that you need.
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I'm not even going to tell anyone here what she cooked up, but if you try to imagine the most bizarre thing and back it off one notch, you're probably close. You are being investigated for stealing toe-nail clippings and selling them on the black market??? Wow... that is bizarre. I myself went through this. I was investigated for sexual misconduct. (This was a few years before the assault charges she filed...) My advice? Don't play nice. Submit to this investigation (under the guidance of a really really good lawyer) and when it's done, sue her pants off. My experience tells me that these things tend to escalate. And until you put your foot down HARD, it will just keep getting worse. Now, your ex-wife is not my ex-wife... so take my advice with a grain of salt... but almost a decade of abuse ended ONLY when my ex was hit with the FULL FORCE of the law. And even then, it was a couple of years of therapy till things started to calm between us. J
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The local police detective called and I'm under investigation. fraud or child porn which is it?
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My advice? Don't play nice. Submit to this investigation (under the guidance of a really really good lawyer) and when it's done, sue her pants off. I couldn't agree more !!!!!!!!
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Sleepless,
Dewt and Pep are dead on - listen.
No lawyer, no talky, no exceptions.
Don't forget to let your lawyer deal with your wife, hopefully with the judge handling the case. It is time for her lawyer and your wife to get legally slapped back about 10 feet. Your lawyer can handle this.
God bless, Gimble
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