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CSue #1371679 10/27/05 05:21 PM
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Loma Linda is in southern CA, not too far from LA. Of course, everything in southern CA is by LA.

Perhaps there is a trace of pride <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> as I admit that yes, this is true. The studies done on SDA's included a wide range of diets. Most are pretty much lacto-ovo vegetarian (like me), some are vegans, and some eat meat. Almost all of the meat-eaters among us avoid scavengers like pigs and buzzards. Cancer rates are lower, heart attacks are fewer. Vegetarian food is yummy, too. With all due humility, I am a very good cook. (So are most of the members of my family.) All in all, not a bad way to live.

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Well, one nice thing about leaving a bit late for the airport is that you don't have to sit around a long time waiting to get on the plane. When we checked our bags, we were told that our plane would start boarding in 4 minutes...and this was 40 minutes before takeoff time. I guess that's why Hawaiian Airlines leaves on time. I did have time to go to Cinnabon and get a big cinammon roll for breakfast. Your dad didn't want me to get one for him, because he wasn't hungry. What he really meant was that he wanted to eat part of mine once I had it. Which is OK. Those things are huge!!

I had intended to sleep on the flight over, but somewhere a few seats behind us was a Spawn of Iniquity (size very small) who had passionate objections to the flight, and vocalized them repeatedly, at full volume. I felt that if its parents weren't going to shush it up (which they made absolutely no effort to do), they should've at least taken away its megaphone. But nope, apparently that wasn't an option for them either. By the end of the flight, when it could be heard throwing things at people, and going "Nyeh! Nyeh!", only my deceased and rigored condition prevented me from grabbing it by its tiny, infuriating scruff and stuffing it down the toilet.

I did get to sleep for a few minutes before it started, but falling asleep was initially delayed by the exreme amusement I derived from listening to the lady next to your dad trying to carry on a conversation with him. Imagine Jabberwocky vs. Clam, without benefit of translators, and you'll get the idea. It was so funny--I can't even tell you. Either they quit and I fell asleep, or eventually my fatigue overcame its entertainment value, because when the Spawn started spewing, my seatmates had fallen silent. (I could've told her!) Your grandpa also had quite an animated conversation with the youngish lady next to him. She had her nose pierced. I think he was telling her stories but couldn't hear quite well enough to be sure.

We got off the plane, and got hit with the first gust of Hawaiian breeze, and I told GP, "Well, Daddy, I think you can take your sweater off now!" Let's just say it ain't October in Hawaii. I wanted to get a picture of it raining in the bright sunshine, but it was over and gone so quickly there wasn't time to get the camera bag out of the trunk. We saw Neak's book on display in the local ABC. Maybe we'll take a picture of it for her.

I was in bed by 6PM local time, and never heard anybody else come into the room or get in bed. Good thing, too, because there's a rooster living right outside the bedroom window with an internal alarm that goes off MUCH earlier than mine is accustomed to do. By the time we leave, after six morningsof this, the only thing that will save its miserable life is the fact that until I wake all the way up, I'm too stiff to move and too slow to catch it; and once I'm all the way awake, I don't care any longer.

Today we're going to the Arizona Memorial and maybe the Bishop Museum. Your dad is driving. I put up with him sitting next to me in the passenger seat for 8 whole miles before retiring from my job as tour guide. Actually, I was ready to have him drive before we got all the way off the airport property, but there was no place to stop!! He says it's the only time I'll ever get to tell him where to go. Not strictly true. I can tell him where to go whenever I want to (if I want to waste my time!). It's just the only time he'll go where I tell him.

I'll get back to you later, but right now I'm tying up Frances' phone line for this, and don't want to impose. Your technodad has an idea of how I can simplify this later, but we've got to do our adventuring first. Joedy Melashenko and his wife are here to do a program and are staying at this same house. He knows the Spreader of Nectar amongst the Flowers of the Garden, too (my first fiance), and we share other acquaintances. He knows GP as well, as was very surprised to hear that he was right in the bathroom getting abluted. Tell CSue that SDA's don't really live longer. IT JUST SEEMS THAT WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I knew she would stay in contact!

thanks for posting it.


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SDAs don't smoke either. I think that adds a few years.

I told T&L that my boy's dad had heart surgery in St. Helena, and they have a wonderful heart program. They even had free heart smart cooking classes, where I learned to cook all kinds of delicious food.

Their surgeons are good too. My ex wasn't supposed to last 3 years. The doc told me before surgery to go out and get a job, as I would likely end up being a single mom. Well, I did go to work, but my husband lasted 17 years, still eating tons of grease, smoking two packs a day, and drinking a bottle of whiskey each day.

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I'm sure there are a few closet smokers (and drinkers), but not enough to skew the results. B, your H should be pretty well pickled by now.

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Neak -

Oh, I was talking about my boys' dad. He is completely pickled now. He died from a heart attack 4 years ago.

He left me when my sons were 2 and 5.

But I am still very thankful for the wonderful care he got. At least he lasted another 17 years.

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Who invented roosters, anyway? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> And whose hairbrained idea was it to let them live in urban areas, cheek-by-jowl with neighboring bedrooms...whose windows are wide open for ventilation in the tropical warm? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> I think this one is related to the diminutive Spawn from the plane. I'm up. I'm up already!! Leave me alone!!!!!!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

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Who invented roosters, anyway?
God.

But T&L, after a while you learn to sleep through it.
You just need more training. I bet it will start to work the day after you leave.

Doesn't that cheer you up? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

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I think sometimes about all the pain in the world. I hope we can ease that here, even if only a little bit.
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t&l,

I'm thinking that it might be time for some FRIED CHICKEN!!!

Oh, not you of course....but if you did, we wouldn't tell the rest of your family!!


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Tell CSue that SDA's don't really live longer. IT JUST SEEMS THAT WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HeeeeHeeeee! Surely that is not a reflection of the company you're currently keeping!!!


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Triple rats! I lost a very long post last night when the laptop battery went dead, but will try to recreate it soon. Then the internet went down this morning so I couldn't even say hi. I finally left it unplugged the whole time I was running errands, and now that I am back it works again. The third rats is my shorter post to B. The gist was, I'm sorry to hear that your X died, but glad he got those extra years. It is really beautiful around St. Helena.

All I have time for is a quick question relating to my lovely certified letter. It did not occur to me at first, and I am not sure if I should even say anything to her about it. (If no one has any bright ideas I will err on the side of caution and leave the matter alone.)

Keep in mind I will have to send a preliminary response, even if the atty can handle the main gist of the thing. She finally sent an unitemized total that is $3-4,000 higher than I expected. So no matter what else, I will have to ask her to account for the missing information. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

On to my question. I had provided her with a post office box address by which she could contact us regarding money issues, but the certified letter was sent to our home. Should I say anything to her, and if so, what? Legal remedies are not an option from our lame sheriff's department. When one of our X-employees was harassing me on my personal cell phone they told me, "Oh, there's nothing we can do about that. He's probably just trying to get his money." EVEN THOUGH I MADE CLEAR WE HAD ALREADY PAID HIM!!! They are morons and would just say the same thing here, too.

Just a side note, I was a bit upset at first that the card would go back to her with AJ's signature on it, but then stopped to think that now she has no possible excuse for thinking that contacting him directly would do any good. She did, and he gave it to me to handle. (Thank you, Sweetie!) He got her demands himself, and still ignored it as far as any direct dealings. Hopefully that sends a powerful message.

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I'll have to get to the long stuff later, since I should have been busy already, but I had a bit of a moment this morning. Cruising cheerfully around Wal-Mart, the song on their loudspeaker suddenly penetrated my consciousness. It was the one OW had quoted to me as describing how she felt about the A. "I coulda missed the pain, but I'da had to miss the dance." I'm not so good yet as to have ignored it entirely; I just stood there gazing stupidly at storage containers I had no intention of buying, and after several years the song ended. It took a minute or so to collect my thoughts enough to find a song of my own to occupy my mind, but very shortly I was cruising again, and humming.

A short time ago that would have heavily colored my whole day. Now it is worthy of mention that the unexpected spout of arterial blood was bound up very quickly. It all comes of using the proper tools for the job.

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I think the less you say, the better. I can't think of any reason to say anything about sending to your home. If she is trying to get a response, that will negate it. I think she thrives on drama, and if you ignore everything but strict business, it's will take away her high.

If you can, say the mimimum you can get by with, and tell her that future dealings should be through the lawyer.

Now, this is not a good thing to cope with. I wish you didn't have to do it. Stuff like this kind of takes away our joy some days. (Understatement.)

However, I see good in you being able to change your thought processes quickly, and I think you are doing well overall. Really well.

God will contiue to help. You know that. With a team comprised of you, and God, no one, or nothing else has a chance.

It's just that he makes you do some of it, doesn't he.

I guess the good side of that is that God knows you CAN do it.

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Neak,

I'm with SS on this....as little contact as possible with OW. This is the only way left she has of hanging on to the drama with you and AJ.

Don't waste any emotional energy trying to get her to use the post office box. It isn't within your control where she sends the mail as you said; so there's no benefit to even acknowledging that she sent it to your home. She would just simply get satisfaction that she got under you skin if you mention it.

We had some financial issues with our OW as well, and she used it as best as she could to stay in contact with my husband. We pulled money out of our personal savings to pay a bill for her so that she would have no further "legitimate" reason to continue trying to contact him. Nothing like the big $$$$ you're talking about. Just a stab at staying in his life, in any way she could.

Glad you pulled it together in Walmart and replaced that old song with one of your own. You've got a great man in AJ by your side, doing the right things to rebuild your marriage. You won, she lost - and your future is bright!

Put this in perspective as being very temporary and don't give it any more importance that a small blip on the screen, or a fly buzzing.....just an annoyance. Not worth the emotional energy invested in more than a shrug of your shoulders!

I'm proud of you!


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Neak you really are doing well you know.

Those triggers may never actually be forgotten but you can move past them and they become just another part of your history.

Pain, Loss, Rebuilding.

Of course I would rather have learned my lessons in less painful ways but that wasn't the way it was. God placed some tests before me and I failed some of them. But HE didn't give up on me so I won't. And you know you HE won't with you either.
Sometimes we doubt but that's human.

Yes, strange about triggers neak.
You know my worst still is that funny astringent antiseptic smell you get in Hospitals.
I still shudder at it.
I remember how I wondered at the sparkle in his pain filled eyes, the brilliance of his smile as he looked at me. I tried to manage my own weak smile in return. I felt like sh*t

I leaned close to him and kissed his forehead gently. I took a deep breath, closed my eyes, and enjoyed the moment of contact. His lips parted and words tried to form but only a murmur I couldn’t hear what he wanted to say. I put my finger lightly across his lips with a "shhhh."

I told him "I love you too." Before God I swear I did and do so much.

He opened his eyes once more. He just looked at me. Love and joy overwhelmed my soul. I felt like crap and wanted to die.

I still see so clearly a white bandage was wrapped around his shoulders holding a square of bandage just over the back of his left shoulder. Thick bandages wrapped around his midsection just above his waist, his right leg in plaster to his thigh. I tried to utter the first thing in my mind ’Jesus!!’ but only a dry groan came out. I kept saying over & over in my mind ‘God what have I done’.
All the bandages were stained as was his skin with this yellow orange wash of some kind ….I can’t stand that smell.
And tubes, drains and IV’s and things I have no idea about.

I still have the odd nightmare of that day after all this time, but it all jumbles together so I’m no longer sure what’s memory and what’s not.
Its burned into my soul I guess.
When I went into Hospital for Mikey I had a flash of it again.. but it no longer immobilises me. Like a distant hurt, a wound of the soul slowly mending. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


Life may feel as if you are constantly getting kicked on a daily basis, living is about picking yourself up each day and going on and on and on regardless.

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Thank you so much, SS, CSue, and AW, for your advice and sharing. It has really lifted me up. I have SO MUCH TO SAY about what is going on, but no time right now. (The last of the kids just went to bed, and AJ is, um, waiting for me. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />) Just know that you have each made a difference for me.

Here is another letter from the Isle:

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Well, shoot. Now that your dad's been so nice as to set up this notepad
so I can write my stuff down without the internet indefinitely tying up
up our hostess' house phone, how will I ever be able to comfortably make
fun of him, on his OWN computer, for the rest of the trip? Bummer. "And
in other news, Santo Clammo, currently vacationing in Hawaii, did..."

I think The Pwintheth must be expecting a gift. This morning, while
cleaning my purse, I found the folded-up note that was handed to me
yesterday. It reads: "Dear NaHa I love you You are so nisse Love BooBoo."
Insert rolled eyes here. Then tell her thank you for the lovely little
note she sent to her dear Noah, who is enormously touched, I promise!

Yesterday we went out to the drug store and picked up some supplies GP
didn't manage to get into his little bag. Most of the time he can't
remember that he has his little bag, either. After we got back from the
store I set all the things he had just bought outside the bathroom door.
He came out, stepped over them, and asked where his stuff was. I said,
"Right there on the floor, Daddy." He looks down at the bag underfoot
and says, "What is this?" He has a hard time remembering what I tell him
we're going to do, and after the 4th or 5th time giving the same
information, it's hard to infuse any degree of freshness into the voice, let
me tell you!

Today we went to the Bishop Museum. I want Neaksis to know she was wrong,
wrong, wrong about how long it would take us to tour the place. I was
worried that in the 1-1/2 hrs. left of available time for the day, I
wouldn't get my money's worth out of the place. Tina said, "I don't know
what you're worried about. You'll be through in 1/2 hr. tops." I said,
"What are you talking about? It's got 4 stories of exhibits. How do you
expect me to finish that quickly?" "Easy," she said. "You're forgetting
your going Daddy, and he'll be 'OK, I've already seen that. Let's move
along. Yup, nice. What's next?' And before you know it, you'll be
done." Well, we did NOT finish in 1/2 hr. However, we DID see 6 floors of
exhibits, plus a separate dinosaur hall, plus go to the gift store and
get something for kids, all in 1 hr. and 20 min. Your GP was looking for
a place to sit down by the time we finished. Which reminds me...I
rented a "full-size" care specifically so there'd be room for your dad and
GP to be comfortable. I think about this every time I see them trying to
fold themselves into, and unfold themselves out of, the cozy little
seats the car provides for them. Good thing I didn't choose economy or
compact!!

When we went to the AZ memorial, I noticed several things: (1) Sailors
are much younger now than they were back in the 60s, when they were
mysteriously-alluring older men. (2) They don't make MPs like they used
to. The security company was named "Wackenhut," which I originally read
as "Whackenut". Got to tell you that sounds a lot more intimidating than
the REAL name, that's for sure. "I'm from Wackenhut, and you're under
arrest" vs. "You're under arrest. I'm a Whackenut kinda guy, so don't be
pulling any funny stuff, or I WILL!" (3) I found the story of the AZ a
much more moving tale than I did when I was younger. They've got a very
powerful moview, all original footage, that they show you before you
leave for the actual memorial. The man who introduced it is a retired
soldier who was stationed at Schofield Barracks on 12-7-41, and lived
through the aftermath of the attack. (4) The AZ was hit by an
armor-piercing piercing bomb dropped from around 12,000 feet, which had the "luck"
to explode next to the ammunition magazine several decks down. This
magazine contained somewhere around 900 tons of explosives, if I remember
correctly, and somebody was filming the ship at the time it detonated. I
don't know if the sound was added, but the shock and the noise made me
jump embarrassingly (except for the fact that it was dark in the
theater.

[t&l}

The End


I'll hurry back as fast as I can, but tomorrow is church, followed by family bonding time in the great out-of-doors. Have a great weekend, and I'll chat soon.

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Another letter just arrived, too irrestible not to post immediately. It is always so funny when Mom takes GP away and discovers anew what my life is like every day. (This is why she works extra so I can be the one to take care of him.)

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THURSDAY AM WHILE GP ABLUTES..........................
There are these very weird ants in Hawaii. Small. Almost micrscopic, even. And they materialize as if by magic as soon as food is put out. I'm used to having to put food away overnight in order to protect it. Here, you can hardly leave the food out during the meal. Yesterday, when he lifted it up to drink, GP's juice glass looked like it had a herd of cows around a feed trough, where they were feasting on the drips. We bought bug spray. So there.
My back is killing me. The bed in which we're sleeping was (in its previous life) a lava flow, but without the soft texture and smooth surface a lava rock bed would provide. At least now I know what I'll look like when I'm dead. Well, minus the red pj's and the pillow between my knees! Your dad took a picture of me asleep the first night, after I'd been up 30 hrs. Two flash photos, and he said I never even twitched. He also CLAIMS that he tried to wake me up when I was breathing so deeply and loudly I sounded like someone coming out of general anesthesia, who got extubated too soon, and couldn't quite yet manage my own respirations. I didn't wake up then, either. In fact, the first thing I remember is that (*&&*^$#% rooster, herald of the morning but nemesis of the day.

I wish I could've gotten a picture of her yesterday, but I saw the woman I would become if I lived here. She was short, had long hair all the way down her back, and was (shall we say?) "full-figured." Too much good food. Too readily available. Too little self-control. A lethal combo. Not only that, but apparently my English would suffer as well. Somebody asked me, "Eh, Susan. What church you go to on Sabbath?" And without hesitation, without thinking, I replied, "We goin' da Japanee chuch." Eeek. I wasn't allowed to speak pidgin when I was little. The English teachers' daughter, you know. Obviously I haven't forgotten...

FRIDAY AFTERNOON WHILE GP SHOWERS......................
Well, I should be able to re-write War and Peace by the time he gets out of bathroom. We sent him in there first, thinking he'd take the longest to get ready. Turns out before he could shower, he was due for an, um, ah, MOVING experience, so 1/2 later there has been no bathing started yet. Hope we get there before all the party-ers fade away. They ARE 68 years old, after all, and can't frolic indefinitely!! Just went and checked again. Nope, no water yet, of either the flushing or tap variety. I'm going to be ticked if we came all the way across the ocean so he could spend the party time in the bathroom.
We were going to tour the north side of the island today but decided to start out at Castle Medical Center, the hospital where I got my first nursing job, as an aide in 1964. Got fired, too, for not working hard enough. I've often wondered what the director of nurses from that era would think if she knew I ended up being a nurse, and for going on 37 years, too. I'm sure if she ever found out, somewhere a pig would fly briefly, just for me. I told the story on Idiotville long ago, but this is the hospital where I was told (as a teenage nurses' aide) to take a rectal temperature on a pt. When I walked in the shades were pulled, so the room was dark. The man was Hawaiian, so he was dark. He'd had a stroke, so he couldn't talk, and was lying on his side with his back to me and his face towards the window. I told him what I was going to be doing, and attempted to insert the thermometer, but couldn't make it go in. Tried again. Same results. He made a funny noise, too, every time I goosed him with the probe. I took it out and looked at it. There was some pasty brown stuff on the tip of the thermometer--looked like poop to me! So I gave it a good shove one more time. "Ga-a-a-a-a-ah!" he said. I gave up and returned to the charge nurse to tell her I was sorry but I was unable to complete my assigned task because I couldn't get the thermometer to go anywhere. She looked at me for a minute and then said, "I'm sorry. I don't know why anybody told you to do that. He's got a colostomy, and doesn't even HAVE a rectum!!!" Let me tell you something. He may not have had a rectum when I started, but he came dang close to having one by the time I was finished!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We visited friends from the 60s, and one of them bought us all lunch at the hospital cafeteria. Mainland hospitals could take LESSONS from this hospital on how to make cafeteria food. They had chickenless drumsticks, flavored with Teriyaki sauce, breaded and deep-fried. Oh my word!!!!!!! I had 3, I'm embarrassed to admit. GP was busy sawing away at one of his with a knife, and sawing, and sawing. Finally one of the former students with whom we were visiting said, "Susan, you need to tell him there's a real stick in the center of that thing." It was about a quarter of an inch thick, too, so he'd have been trying to cut that for a GOOD long time. I just heard he's almost dressed. What I didn't hear was any shower water running. And now it's too late to start over and make him bathe if it turns out he didn't. If he didn't wash, I'm blaming Neak and telling everybody he lives with his granddaughter (on her father's side) and she never makes him bathe so he just got out of the habit. Now he's out, but dressed in the same clothes he was wearing before, and carrying the black pants he was supposed to put on. When I told him he was wearing the wrong outfit, he said, "Well, I can't get dressed IF I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO WEAR, now can I?" I pointed out to him he was carrying in his hands what he was supposed to wear. So he said I didn't tell him. Au contraire, mon pere. Au contraire. Well, I guess I'd better go and start paying attention to what's going on there, or who knows what he'll be wearing when it's time to leave.

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I had a call from A2's brother today - lets call him A2b...very fit thirty something fella.
He's NOT in the Army, he didn't run away from home at 16 to join anything, so why is he as eccentric as his brother?

God knows!

Anyway, he told me he had just spent a week at Rottnest Island on holiday with his family & inlaws.

Now every year - PLEASE NO COMMENTS ON AUSSIE MEN I KNOW ALREADY - a number of MEN swim across the white pointer and other shark infested water to the island around 20 km out and then RUN from the beach to the other end of the island & back to the PUB which used to be Government House back in the bad old days of a devils island prison. All good fun ...think I'm breaking out in hives just thinking about all that exercise.

So hes running back to the pub & needs to have a wee... decides to duck down the side of the road around some big rocks and then get back to running.... except he ran right into a outcropping rock just above eye level..blood spurting everywhere.
Hand wont hold it, so he jams his hat on, soaked in blood, takes off his T shirt wraps it around and gets back onto the road calls for his wife who is running with him - shes SO much younger than me <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> - who screams for her dad - yes he's running too - and they each take an arm and run with A2b as fast as they could back to the pub.

You wont believe this..HE .. WON the race!
hahaha blood dripping & all. Got 3 stitches as well.

Now, that should be the end of the story,, but no NOT THIS FAMILY....... just like his brother he refused to acknowledge he may need to take care and slow down for a few days ... insisted he stay on holiday on the island .... then he slipped due to being 'dizzy' - who'd have thought <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> - and broke his right collarbone.

And I thought we only had ONE, ok LM is TWO, son is THREE, now FOUR!!

his wife - asked me if it was a regressive gene and if we could do anything about it..NUH!!!
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Life may feel as if you are constantly getting kicked on a daily basis, living is about picking yourself up each day and going on and on and on regardless.

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