That was too happy of a <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> emoticon. Perhaps <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> or <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> would be better.

Tell the exchange? Did I miss something?

From the end of Soylent Green - the movie
I haven't seen it since 73, but I remembered the tell the exchange part.


...get to the Exchange.
You gotta tell them they're right.
But let's take care of you first.
You don't understand.
I've got proof.
They need proof.
I've seen it. I've seen it happening.
They've gotta tell people.

- Tell them what? - The ocean's dying. Plankton's dying.
It's people.
Soylent Green is made out of people.
They're making our food out of people.
Next thing. They'll be breeding us like cattle for food.
You've gotta tell them. You've gotta tell them.

I promise. Tiger. I promise. I'll tell the Exchange.
You tell everybody.
Listen to me. Hatcher. You've gotta tell them!
Soylent Green is people!
We've gotta stop them somehow!

End of script

Sorry about the com from Garg. Hope you are OK.

SS

remember the movie but not sure if that means Neak has gone meat eater, or reclycing a lot, or its the sewer system mess in the backyard ????? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

well its good that AJ gags at garg but sorry you had to hear of her at all. Why can't she just run off to a remote island with a single guy somewhere?

mum has been so quiet I thought she was sick. but she says no just nervous about going to dads Long Tan thing. Mums not saying too much to us kids so I guess we know where our communications skills came from don't we? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

now are we all feeling well today or tonight as the case may be? I'm so tired I'm going to bed in about 5 mins and try to get some sleep as long as his master doesn't wake up again!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

I'll catch up with you all tomorrow.
Lov ya's
AW <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

Talk about denial! I forgot to tell you guys this about my trip: When I got to the hotel, it was after midnight, the check in clerk told me I was sharing a room with another doctor. When I got to the room she was asleep but woke up and started saying that she didn´t know we were supposed to share and that she had already complained because she wanted a room for herself, that this was unheard of etc. I thought it a little strange since the whole thing was being paid for by the sponsoring organization and she was no one special (there were very important people in that meeting). Anyway, the following day she came to the room in the evening with a big grin on her face to say she was moving to another room by herself. Later on, talking with the guy who went with me and who shared a room with her countryman I realized that the big fuss was because they were having an affair! Apparently the guy showered four times a day and was away most of the night! And he had a more important position than she did, yet he did not ask for a room for himself, but had her get it. YUCK! The last night, according to my countryman, the guy came to the room at 1 a.m. , showered and then phoned "someone" to ask if the door was open... and then left.

Infidelity is all around us, but I hate to have it rubbed in my face.

The good thing was that I ended up having a room to myself!
<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />


Now about the meeting with WH this afternoon. Everything went according to plan. Little talk. I congratulated him on his new car. He made an effort to pretend that everything is fine but I just answered calmly. I was not at all nervous.

It's over with. He can go on pretending.

Glad you got a room to yourself.
Sorry for the reason you got it.

So H wants you to think life is perfect, but you can tell it's not?

Hmmm, that does sound familiar.

Did you tease him?
Sorry - but I had to ask.

SS

Still too hot. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/teary.gif" alt="" /> (that is sweat coming off my face)

Son wants steak for dinner.... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
that means grilling outside <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/teary.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/teary.gif" alt="" />

It is 7:20 p.m. and it's still 95 degrees F out there. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />
Grill is on the concrete driveway....by a stone wall. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/teary.gif" alt="" />

Haven't been taking my vitamins lately. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
Hematocrit was too low AGAIN to give blood - 36 needed to be 38. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Had horrible messes at work. One took several hours because I couldn't figure out what to do with it. Called the man who submitted this employment application. Either he is STUPID and didn't read what he had submitted. His ranking on several civil service registers is grossly wrong due to his own errors - all started because I was smart enough to wonder why a man was teaching all subjects K-12 to students (full-time) while working for a commodities company. I'm the new person. I catch this stuff often. Does no one ever wonder about what they read? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

How can life be perfect? He still hides his affair... because I guess he feels uncomfortable <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

No I didn't get a chance to tease him, but I would have. Since it's the first time we've been face to face we didn't really talk much and on top of everything remember I'm leaving for a month in a few days...

It wasn't bad. It was just more of the same.

And of course, no one would do anything or care if you exposed it.....

Nobody does anything.... I already exposed and keep exposing... but nobody seems to care. MIL has accepted the A, so have BILs. He has no contact with my family, they won't have contact with him. My daughters don'y accept OW and WH doesn't impose her on them Thank God! What else can I do?

I've been told that OW wears a wedding ring <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> guess she's the one who's really convinced..

No one ever exposed my x's EAs - no one. His mother doesn't know. His father doesn't know. He admitted one of them to me. Both of them to the MC who told me - he was doing IC with both of us hoping to lead us to decent MC but it didn't work - not counselor's fault. Can't help waywards who don't want to own their stuff.

Even 11 years after x left me, every now and then his mom (who just turned 80) sort of throws my stuff up to me. One of these days, if I am not careful, I may tell her - if she pushes me far enough. She has no idea.

Now, bear in mind that I know no one knows. NO ONE. But x and me and he wouldn't own it if confronted.

So, the question is, do I go to my grave with this? Even our children don't know. Granted, at 15 and 13, they may not need to know.

C,

I'm afraid it's late and I can't really think straight anymore. Even if it wre morning I can't give you any advice, I just don't know. I felt THE NEED to expose, and continue doing so. He has never complained about that. Actually he just hasn't ever said anything! It's a bit different from other cases here. WH is financially responsible and takes care of everything. He has respected my wish not to see him. He still doesn;t admit the A, only drags OW (who willingly goes) to his mother's and probably his brothers and socializes with her family as far as I know.

Very strange.

yeah, men in denial are strange! Can't see the forest for the trees.

The 80yo MIL I don't know about. A good argument could be made either way. Personally, I'd probably tell, but that's me. Your kids, IMO, should definitely be told. They are old enough to understand. Don't burden them with too many details, but answer their questions and let them know that what he did is not ok.

I can put more later, but AJ found out yesterday how deeply his parents betrayed him. They (and his aunt) spread many lies around his family about how awful we both are, even going so far as to say that the Dervish is not really AJ's child. And, of course, we didn't make them feel welcome again. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

And when AJ called up his mother to confront her, in the course of the conversation she came right out and said I was a liar.

AJ forlornly remarked, "At least I still have one mom who loves me."

(That would be you, Biomom. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> )

So he is sad, angry, hurt, all the things you would expect from someone who had been betrayed in such a personal way, and by someone they love.

See if you can find a way to make lemonaid.

It's sad really. I can't imagine why a anyone would talk this way....... but especially a parent.

Love?
Compassion?

".......... But the greatest of these is charity, and whoso is found possessed of it at the last day, it will be well with him."

I feel bad for them. For you guys too, in a way, but what hope do they have?

Pray for them, you may yet find a way to help them.

SS

Neak
I have to wonder if AJ's mum is actually jealous of the strong family relationship that you all have even after being tested so harshly.

I wonder what the reason was to drop in on you without warning, and the resulting disorder had you not known, throwing whatever plans you may have had right out the window when they turned up out of the blue?

Most family would warn you at least they were on the way, or was it ok to come etc ... (yeah like it happens here ??? sniggering madly before mum clips my ear lol) but I hope you know what I mean.

It seems planned to be the most inconvenient as they could be.

strange. sad too. Hug AJ big time and well, do wifey things to him lol <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

meanwhile I'll wash nappies at 2.50am in the morning , exciting ..NOT <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

I can't believe the audacity of that woman....<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

Sometimes family just doesn't measure up....:(

Like my FOO...so messed up

I think we both need the throw up icon.

Maybe there is a lot of jealousy there.

A man goes to the minister at his church. "Reverend," he said, "we have a problem. My wife keeps falling asleep during your sermons. It's very embarrassing, not to mention disrespectful. What can I
do?"

"I've noticed this, too; I have an idea if you are up to the task," said the minister. "Take this hat pin with you. From the pulpit, I can see when Mrs. Jones is sleeping, and I will motion to you. When I motion, you give her a good poke in the leg with the hat pin."

At church the following Sunday, Mrs. Jones dozed off. Noticing this, the minister put his plan to work. "And who made the ultimate sacrifice for you?" he said, nodding to Mr. Jones.

"Jesus!" Mrs. Jones cried out as her husband jabbed her in the leg with the sharp hat pin.

"Yes! You are correct, Mrs. Jones!" came the ministers quick reply. Mrs. Jones then turned and glared angrily at her husband.

Soon Mrs. Jones again nodded off. The minister noticed. "Who is your redeemer?" he asked the
congregation, motioning to Mr. Jones.

"My God!' howled Mrs. Jones as she was stuck again with the pin.

"Right again!" bellowed the minister, a slight grin on his face. Mrs. Jones again gave her husband a really hard, threatening glare. Before long, though, she again nodded off to sleep. This time, however, the minister did not notice. As he picked up the tempo of his sermon, he made a few hand gestures that Mr. Jones mistook as signals to sharply poke his wife with the hat pin again. The minister asked, "And what did Eve say to Adam after she bore him his 99th son?"

Mrs. Jones jumped up and shouted: "You stick that thing in me just one more time, and I'll break it in half and shove it where the sun don't shine!"

And all the women in the congregation replied -- "Amen, sister!"

hi rella!!

what are you doing up so late? isn't it night where you are??

I thought I was the sleepless one !! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

been listening to my DD's latest variety choir songs, very nice, of course !! lol <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

hehehhehehehhe ROTFLMAO <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> amen sister for sure!!