On the couch, well had a really good look at it & I may just be able to buy a wheel assembly from the Hardware wholesalers .. maybe.

Neak, I tried to keep the boys in line, truly I did, really, honest injun, but they read your comment on Pi Pi Valley camping and OF COURSE said pee pee & just had to keep going on about it ... I know its pronounced pie pie but they just wont accept it. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
its not my fault <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

its not <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

truly <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

I think your mum may want to use a RV <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />, I notice they have 38 sites for them ..... and there are food vaults because there are bears in them hills <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />... there are wheelchair friendly loo's apparently but not flushers.... probably a pit <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> ... I wonder if thats why they named it Pi Pi ?????????? lol <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
been there done that type pf camping <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> ... these days its 3 stars min or I don't go. Well I try to fight for it.... depends on the mood of our lord and master <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Anyway you guys have a wonderful time and enjoy the fresh air & walks .... I have to struggle on with the Strawberry wine and spa and hubby <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

How on God's green earth I got snookered into going camping is a mystery to me. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> And that was before I got the box of bear bullets my husband bought for AJ, just in case... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

t&l

Ah T&L, You seem to be such a pushover sometimes. Maybe you secretly enjoy it.

We didn't have a campground, but we didn't have to worry about bears either. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Have a great time !!
And someone needs to give us a full report. How about Neaksis - I would guess she is going too. It's about time we heard it with that humorous slant she puts on things. Of course, some wouldn't call it humorous - but that's opinion for you.

SS

Camping....is that what you do at the 2 star hotels?

Hi Cinderella !

I have been catching up on your adventures. Those tires can really cause problems, glad you didn't hit it.

I owned a motorcycle pretty much full time from when I was 17 until about 5 years ago. (47) I can't believe the things people do on them. I would think it would lower their life span quite a bit. I tried to be careful. Of course, I did do a few dumb stunts in the early years. The stats show if you can make it through the first 5 years with no accidents, your chances of staying safe go way up. It also helps to have common sense, and be careful.

Yes - it's true. I rode a motorcycle (mostly to work and back) for about 30 years, and it
didn't
didn't
didn't
didn't
(SS taps head to get unstuck)
affect me at all.

SS

Silly idiot!

2 star hotel? In our dreams.

We are back, and all still alive. Mom and Neaksis are a little ways behind us, as they were not quite done adventuring yet.

I'll be back after I get stuff unloaded, get cleaned up, and maybe eat something that doesn't taste like smoke. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I must be the only one who LOVES camping - especially now that my boys are grown. We have camped all their lives. When they were young it was just like being at home, except you had to haul all the stuff out to the woods, cook it there, clean it up with no hot water, and do it again for the next meal.

I made the best investment in my life when I bought a tent that you just have to throw up in the air and it comes down all set up right. I can put it up in less than a minute.

<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />And this is something I should want to spend my spare time doing?<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Neak, Neaksis & T&L, I do hope all had a great time tamping <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Believer it can be fun but it also seems I end up doing all the cooking & cleaning. And I did try to get him to buy the throw up in the air and come down set up tent as well ..... but he wanted his cyclone, storm proof, artic proof, desert proof dome to house 12 people, 4 pets, 2 cars and 3 months supplies <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />
if he did'nt just throw the swags on a patch of dirt and tell us this was it for the night <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

I think 3 star motel is a better option, if the 5 star is full <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> however never seemed to have the $$$ for that too often. Oh well, tamping is affordable at least especially with a family and the kids always loved it. DD would still go at a drop of a hat if her dad said lets go. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

In my whole life, I have spent one night in a tent. And it was right next to the 31' RV.

Well, in case you ever go again, here is what you need:



__Tent __Sleeping bag
__Ground cloth/tarp __Sheets/blankets
__Extra stakes __Pillow
__Shade tarp/poles/rope/stakes __Air mattress/sleeping pad/cot/tarp
__Axe or hammer __Air pump
__Mat for tent entrance __Repair kit for air mattress
__Dust pan/brush __Utility bags for storage




Cooking

__Large water jug & water bucket __Potholders/oven mitts
__Coolers/ice __Pots and frying pans with lids
__Thermos __Soap for outside of pots and pans
__Stove with fuel/propane __Cook utensils-spatula, knife, spoon
__Matches/lighter __Tongs
__Charcoal/firewood/buddy burner __Skewers/grill forks
__Dutch oven/tin can stove/box oven/etc __Can opener/bottle opener
__Campfire grill/BBQ grill __Folding table
__Fire starters/newspaper __Dutch oven
__Tablecloth/thumb tacks/clips __Pie irons
__Plates & bowls/paper plates & bowls __Mugs/paper cups
__Silverware/plastic silverware __Mixing bowl
__Measuring cups __Cutting board
__Heavy-duty aluminum foil __Ziplock bags
__Paper towels __Napkins
__Trash bags __Dish pan
__Dish soap __Dish rags/towels
__Clothes pins __Scrub pad/brillo
__Cooking oil/Pam spray __Seasonings/sugar/condiments
__Containers for food storage __Potato peeler




Clothes Personal
__Shoes/boots __Shower shoes/flip flops
__Jeans/pant/belt __Towels/washcloth
__Shorts __Soap in plastic case/shampoo
__T-shirts __Tooth brush/tooth paste
__Socks/extra socks __ Deodorant
__Hat __Comb/brush
__Bandana __Razor
__Sweatshirt/jacket __Feminine products
__Underwear __Toilet paper
__Sleep clothes __Shower bag or 5 gallon bucket
__Rain gear __Camping shower/shower pump
__Swim suit/towel __Other personal items
__Laundry bag __Personal medications--take extra




Miscellaneous
__Sunscreen/chapstick __Flashlight/batteries
__Lantern with fuel/mantles __Pocket knife
__Extra batteries/bulbs __Plastic grocery bags
__Compass __Binoculars
__Bug repellant/candles __Rope/clothes line
__Whistle __Canteen/water bottle/coffee pot
__Water filters/purification/treatment __Bungi cords/straps
__Camera/battery/film/video __Cards/games/toys
__Books/magazines __Duct tape/electrical tape
__Candles __Notepad/pen
__Maps/directions __Reservations info./confirmation
__Misc. tools __Cell phone/charger & 2-way radios/walkie talkies
__Backpack/fanny pack __Small shovel
__Fishing gear/license/bait __Safety pins
__Radio __Money/ID/credit card/quarters
__Musical instruments/song books __Bikes/helmets
__Camp chairs __Travel alarm clock
__Sunglasses __Work gloves
__Hammock __Umbrella
__First aid kit __Hand wipes
__Tissues __Drinks/snacks
__Saw/axe __Small sewing kit
__Park map/guidebooks/trail maps __Fire extinguisher
__Lantern pole or hanger __Hot chocolate/tea bags/coffee
__Collapsible drying rack __Scissors
__Popcorn __Watch
__Marshmallows, Graham crackers, Hershey bars (Smores)

Oh, Believer, you and my husband would get along just great in the camping trip planning department!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> I'm a toothbrush, pillows, one change of weather-appropriate clothes in case of accidents (don't ask), kinda gal.

OK, t&l's camping trip, the Readers Digest Condensed Version.

<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" />

t&l

OK, that sounds like too much work for me.

I think you missed a few things B ....... the kitchen sink <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

no no I really mean Aussie has me take along a kitchen sink ... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />
he says it easier to clean the fish out on a kitchen sink <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

However he only lets me have a camp oven, a billy, a few tin cups, knives spoons and forks and tin plates <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />
He wont even take a camp fridge along.
<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />
all army gear

T&L I love the short hand ..um faces .. hehehehe lol <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Like I said, my idea of roughing it is that RV or a 2 star motel.

I prefer more stars.

I have my list that I check out each time, and also have all the stuff in plastic boxes, so I'm ready anytime. Also good for disaster preparedness. I could leave RIGHT NOW, and have my tent set up immediately.

We live in earthquake country, you know. After the last earthquake I heard that people were in line for 6 hours for flashlights and batteries. Me, I'll be home having a glass from my boxed wine.

OH, my idea of camping is in at least a 30' camper, and in a location with electric/water/sewer hookups. You can still do the hiking, fishing, sitting around outside, cooking outside, etc., but come night-time, you can crawl into your nice, clean, bug-free bed in your air conditioned bedroom.

Packing to leave? I keep the camper packed at all times, complete with clothes and with the beds made up, so all we have to do is back up to it, hook her up, and take off!

camper ........ Mmmmmm??? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" />

I've just about completed my house renovations, well except for the floor and bar ...

I wonder if Aussie would let me build one? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

I mean I would ask him if he was here, but ..... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />