I guess I'll need 2 burn myself some meat for dinner or something...

Don't ac2ally know what 2 expect. Almost time 2 go home...

-ol' 2long

Well, I'm home.

I'm doing okay, but I did slip up and LB when I shouldn't have.

My W said she talked 2 our son, though based on her IC's advice (yes, the one she hasn't been 2 since last fall), she didn't tell him the na2re of our problems. She then said she talked to our DD, who told her I had already talked 2 her, then her mom, who also told her I talked 2 her. And then she said that she'd have appreciated it if I'd talked 2 her first...

When I LB'd is when I replied "I would have appreciated the same consideration". True, but I should have kept my mouth shut.

Nobody was into making or getting dinner, so I offered 2 drive my son down 2 our favorite burger/teryaki bowl place and get stuff. Brought it back and gave my W her stuff and my drink (I don't like pepsi products, so I drank cattle juice we had in the fridge).

She's being civil, but she's PISSED OFF.

If anyone's around, I could sure use some consoling. ...not that I deserve it, mind you!

-ol' 2long

I don't have any counseling for you, but I can give you a hug!!! (((2long)))

BTW - you have EXCELLENT taste in music - you once posted Peter Murphy, one of my personal favorites for years now. He seems to be getting better and better. Like wine!!

Hi chack:

No, I meant consoling, not counseling. I could use that 2, but I'm tired of going it alone. I'd rather have a partner 2 work on issues with.

I'm a little messed up 2night. No, a lot. Bummed out mostly. Feeling like most folks are wrong, and my W really DOES want a DV.

Yeah, Peter Murphy is pretty good stuff!

-ol' 2long

Either way - you got a hug, right?

I have stayed out of your stitch because I lack the knowledge to advise you. I have noticed one thing though, you are a very devoted husband and father and the loyalty to your family is remarkable. I admire that and I know everyone here does as well. We all just want you to take care of yourself and see you happy. Regardless of what happens in your marriage you are going to have tough times ahead, but you will manage just fine, I hope you can see that.

Just beware of a "Druid" in a green mustang in your parking lot! Bad luck, and one not so loyal!!! LOLOLOL!!!!!

chack:

Thanks, I know things will work out. But it's going 2 be a rough ride.

I was happy and sad at the same time that my son is still thinking of going 2 OOSP with my W. Happy, because I want him 2 have a good relationship with her, sad because she's medicating herself by appearing 2 have support around her. But I think she could take it or leave it, really, depending on what he decides 2 do.

I felt a little worse 2 hear that he might go up for a short period with our DD, when she's thinking of going out in a few weeks. She'd told me last week that she would never go if RM were 2 go there.

Ac2ally, I have no idea whether he's responded 2 her request for him and his chaparone GF 2 go there. Don't really care, as one way or the other, if we're ever going 2 reconcile, she'd better be honest and truthful with me about what goes on - like has he EVER been there before?

green mustang druid, huh? Well, I must not know him! LOL!

-ol' 2long

Googled "Superior Court of Califonia" ... you will find OnLine Access to Court documents ... call me if you need help.

-rh-

I second this one ... she is an attractive lady.

What a sweetie! Thank you, Redhat.

I'm stressed out with deadlines right now, but might take the time to check this out when I become more curious -- and I'll certainly consult you, RH. (You can tell when I have deadlines; I post more.) It really doesn't make any difference to me right now, so I guess I'm sticking my head in the sand a bit. It's hard to believe I threw the papers out -- I'm pretty careful -- so when they come, they'll come.

Consolation for 2long: Don't forget ... she's at the end of her troubles.

Hey, there's a chance I'm relocating to So. Cal. -- but maybe you will be gone by then. JL too.

AMM:

Yep, and she doesn't realize which end!

Hm... I'm probably not going anywhere real soon. Even if I applied for the job that got listed 2day and got offered the job, I probably wouldn't start work for many months (at least that was the timeframe last time they announced an opening). The other job, 2hrs south, is in Sandy Eggo. I could probably apply and go pretty quickly if I got offered a job there. But either option doesn't let me recover the current job like they used 2 let people do.

JL? Gone from where he is? Or moving down here? Hm...

We so-Cal MBers would love 2 have you guys down here. Wouldn't we? (speak up, folks!).

-ol' 2long

Hi 2Long,

I'm not real good at consoling in print, but I'll give it a go due to the circumstances.

It's ironic that we're both beginning the divorce process now and we started here at MB around the same time. I remember following SC's and your threads, and asking the stupidest questions too LOL. You both were very kind and gracious to all who visited your threads and I appreciated that so very much.

I'll keep you in my thoughts 2Long (or is it ok with you if I keep you in my prayers?). I'm sure you have many more supporters than the ones who post, and I hope that comforts you too.

Take care <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Thank you, LB$!

Think I'll hit the hay now. Got that consultation 2morrow.

-ol' 2long

You'll probably be gone by the time I type this then, but I tried.

I don't know if I can consol at all. I can't even spell this late at night.

I did hear that Puff the magic dragon lived by the sea. Do you know anything about that?

SS

I'm thinking consoling thoughts.

Too late for today, but maybe you'll feel 'em tomorow.

BTW. It's 2:18 am here.

My DD's bed is now officially pink. (I've been painting).

Now that I see it, it's probably a mistake, but once a thing is pink, it's pink.

2Long, you're a great guy. You're going to be amazed at how good you're going to feel when this is done - and you are free of this mess.

-AD

Groan.

I cancelled the appointment (left a message as he wasn't there, don't know if there might be a penalty at this point). 2 far across town. She wants me 2 find someone closer.

It WAS her request that we meet him before she leaves on Friday. And it was based on her assumption that I'd already met for a consultation, instead of a phone call, and that this would be negotiationg and filling out divorce or separation papers.

I could do this anytime, either before or after her trip, really. And I won't go in2 the details of the convo, other than 2 note that we each listened better than ever 2 the other. What's important is how I feel about our relationship and hopes for the fu2re right now.

I think it's pretty hopeless, ac2ally. And so I'm wondering whether, when the mediator calls me back, if I should just go ahead and meet with him after all. But it would be useful to find someone closer to where we live, assuming that family mediators - lawyers willing to work WITH us on a separation plan that will be most beneficial 2 both of us and our family - are common enough that there IS one locally. My IC at work gave me 2 numbers 3 years ago. She also gave me 2 independent IC numbers 2 call. I need 2 find out whether that was an indication of their rarity or not.

2x4s away!

-ol' 2long

Nuts!

Maybe never mind. I called the mediator back and am going 2 see if I can keep the appointment, with or without my W.

-ol' 2long

Yo 2Long,

"And so I'm wondering whether, when the mediator calls me back, if I should just go ahead and meet with him after all."

YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! YES!!!


"It WAS her request that we meet him before she leaves on Friday."

Yes, and you called her BLUFF!


"And I won't go in2 the details of the convo, other than 2 note that we each listened better than ever 2 the other."

Do you think this is a COINCIDENCE after calling her bluff?? It's NOT!!!


"But it would be useful to find someone closer to where we live"

What does that have to do with ONE appt that you've already made? You can change mediators after one appt or after a hundred. It's not a lifetime committment that YOU made with the mediator's time 2Long, it's just one eensie weensie little appt.

You have a winning hand, you know you do. Your wife bluffed. You called her bluff. Now you're agreeing to just toss in the hand and redeal!

You scheduled the appt 2Long. Hold up YOUR end whether your WW does or not. If she doesn't want you to do these things ALONE then she'll just have to join in, right? SHOW HER that she cannot have it both ways ANY MORE!

Take care 2Long <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

"Nuts!

Maybe never mind. I called the mediator back and am going 2 see if I can keep the appointment, with or without my W."

I'm slow with posts, and with interruptions too I'm usually way late. LOL

Good going 2Long!

Good 4 u 2long ... it is about time. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Don't you DARE back out or I'll give your e-mail address to the creationists.

WAT