Hey 2Long,

Your house, btw, sounds GREAT.

Did you ever see the movie "Mouse Hunt"?

-AD

2long, lemme ask u about Mars's soils. What is the probability that we could get water out of Martian soils ? If there is a posibility then how many years do u think before we have the technology to mine it ?

-rh-

rh:

At high latitudes, like above 60 degrees north or south, you might have water ice within centimeters of the surface.

As far as mining it is concerned? First, you'd need a reason 2 go 2 Mars 2 mine water there. Probably not until you send people. The way things are going, it's going 2 be decades before we send folks. And even then, they'll be exploratory missions at first. Science bases and colonies are cen2ries away, I'm afraid.

Besides, with all that sulfur, Mars probably stinks! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

-ol' 2long

This morning, I made a sarcastic remark, but I don't think it was a LB.

I asked if I should stop by the grocery store or a fooderie 2 pick up stuff for dinner and the weekend (she's leaving 2morrow morning). Mainly, 2 make sure we don't BOTH stock up the fridge at the same time. She saidd she'd think about it and let me know. And then, something about having 2 just not worry about what we do while she's gone, the way "guys are" (in reference 2 my son, his friend's and my eating habits left unattended, but not in a condescending tone, either).

So I responded "Yeah. We'll all probably be dead by the time you get back."

-ol' 2long

English pop quiz: Was your remark sarcastic or sardonic?

2long,

I use this quest for water as metaphor for your quest of gettin' love out from your W.

What is the real reason you want Love from W ?
r u still willing to wait for that long ? 4 what ?

Exactly, would W give you a rosy/fulfillin R or a stinky ones ?

-rh-

Appy:

Wasn't Sardon a computer chess game? ...oops, that's Sargon!

Wow, though. I just looked the 2 terms up, and I'd have 2 pick neither.

How 'bout "revoltingly funny?"

-ol' 2long

Orchid calls it reverse-psycho-babel

rh:

I'm slow in the mornings. Good points. I thought you were thirsty!

She's leaving 2morrow for 4 weeks or so. I'm not going, even for the 4th, when other family members are planning 2.

I'd like her 2 think about what transpired at the meeting yes2rday. But no, I don't seriously expect anything 2 change in that time... ...but I do hope.

And yes, I'd much rather have a non-smelly relationship if I have one at all. Either with her or someone else.

-ol' 2long

"Wow, though. I just looked the 2 terms up, and I'd have 2 pick neither."

See. Stop picking on yourself so much.

You are trying to do the right thing. More than try. You are doing the right things. Making the ultimate sacrifice.

I haven't seen anything LB in anything you are doing.

Although, an LB is in the eye of the beholder, I suppose. When in the fog, just about everything honest and true must look to the WS like an LB, huh.

PS: Astronomy mag has had some cool pictures of Mars in it lately. One picture showed what the author said were frost domes.

My evil-twin is saying <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> ... file 2long, file and served her while she is with RM. Give her a very memorable vacation with RM.

Like a hope of frost dome picture from Mars.

It is not IF, my friend, it is WHEN. I found someone a month ago (I know her for about a year) and I still pinch myself once in a while to make sure that I am on earth not on 7 heaven.

-rh-

Ap:

"Astronomy mag has had some cool pictures of Mars in it lately. One picture showed what the author said were frost domes. "

Hm... I don't get that one. I'll have 2 look it up. I've done work on that subject. They're called pingos.

http://collections.ic.gc.ca/simply_science/scirep1m.htm

Most people probably aren't familiar with them. Binder and Jen Brown might be, though, as they hail from the Great White North... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

-ol' 2long

rh:

If she were 2 be with RM, I would file. But she's not. Again, I can assume she's telling me the truth when she says he's got a GF and doesn't respond 2 most of her emails anymore. Or I can assume she's lying.

Giving her the benefit of the doubt still leaves the fact that she can't let go, can't get 2 NC. I don't know if it's the depth and duration of the attachment, or pure spite. But THAT is my problem with her right now. Not meeting and spending time with RM. I doubt that's going 2 happen ever again. And that's another reason that fuels her spite, if that's what it is. She can't understand why, since we're getting along alright (compared 2 the past 14 or 15 years, but not compared 2 the first 5 or 10 of our M), I can't just accept things the way they are.

So I think I'm doing the right thing right now. Next month is another story. And I've got 2 make a decision 2 apply for that job, and what I'll do if they offer it 2 me.

-ol' 2long

Find out ...

Your W is unrepentant ex-WW ... sorry, some people might call her WW for not working on M.

You do. I just worry that you have a second thought 2morrow <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />. I think WAT was also worry n popped up here to post a threat 2 u <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> .

rh:

The only way I could find out would be 2 snoop. I haven't seen anything on the phone bills, but haven't looked at them since April. I would need 2 install some spyware on her computer 2 snoop her email, since she's never agreed 2 trade passwords.

-ol' 2long

hey 2l

I follow your stuff, but its so far beyond my experience I rarely comment.

I will ask a question here though if I may.

Do you think your W's affair was the cause of her CGAS attitude or did her CGAS attitude fuel her affair ?

From what I read its not primarily her infidelity that is unworkable for you but her utter dismissal of your needs and desires.

I'm probably way off here, but MAN she doesn't see a lot of fun to be married to. 'not too unpleasant most of the time'; isn't my aspiration for marriage, and its clear yours neither.

So is the biggie her LTA or her attitude. or both, or everything all bundled up in a spit ball with dead flies and stuck down the back of your neck by a big kid ?

"...or everything all bundled up in a spit ball with dead flies and stuck down the back of your neck by a big kid?"

FOTFLMAO....

I used to do that to my little brother. Now he's bigger than me. And a lot nicer than I was.

You should treat your W as if WW. Check her phone monthly and also install spyware. If you find a phone card# on your bill I would tap the house phone too. There is digital recorder that would record for 512 hours for around $200+.

Right now, you are flying mission to Mars w/o sensors <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> .

-rh-

2long:
She alread said she WON'T do no contact. It's not just about contact, or not having contact. It tells you what her values are, and how she feels about your marriage.

At this point, knowing she feels this way, does snooping really do anything more for your decision making process?

SS

SS:

Right 2uestion.

No, it does no good at this point.

-ol' 2long