Alph, you're right. I was 16 when I caught iut and was covered everywhere with huge , painful vesicles. ( and I mean EVERYWHERE <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> ). My DD12 just had it and had like 5 spots and no temperature, while poor Dan is LOADED and hot <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />. Still he's much better this morning after his TCP bath and good sleep. Squids taken him to a garden centre to choose some hanging basket plants.

Ahh, the reassuring smell of TCP. I love it.

Once kids are over the fever, they recover very quickly from it. Just a question of trying not to knock the heads off the scabs now!

Alph.

Morning all

You will have to excuse me if I have the acronyms on my signature incorrect, could someone point me to a glossary of the acronyms.

I am Irish living in the UK, with an English partner. D-day was 24th April, we have both had previous marriages, DS9 from her previous marriage. She started her affair Jan, I discovered by getting a knock on the door and being told by OM's W - which sounds worse than it was - WW was away for weekend with friends shopping in Manchester, so I has plenty of time to cool down. I haven't blown my top, which really confused her. After 2-3 weeks of good discussion, found she was still texting and phoning OM, demanded halt and implemented Plan A. She had serious withdrawl, but appeared to snap out of it last weekend.

After the initial car crash, its a good start to a long journey.

FreeAllAngels

FreeAllAngels,

Welcome! I'm very glad you have found MB - so few Europeans do, which is why b0b pure started this thread.

Feel free to start your own thread if you like, then you'll have people posting to you direct and it will all be relevant to your sitch. Please continue to post here too, though! With all the Americans here, we need all the support we can get! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Sounds like you are doing great with your plan A!

Alph.

Hello FreeAllAngels,

How's NC going? Did you send a letter to OM? Are you both reading through the site?

As a Fww I found the book Surviving An Affair VERY helpful. Is she actively reading affair materials?

Sorry for all the questions!

Bob,

Yes my first bike will be a HOG....how spoilt am I? I did my CBT on a 500 which I enjoyed far more than the 125. I grew up around bikes and was a happy pillion for 4 years before I got pregnant with my Birthday girl. I will be extremely careful though....the roads have gone nuts since we last biked!

Your poor little lad! Chicken Pox is the pits....glad I had it when I was young and not older like you and Alphin!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

To give you a laugh..

Still implementing Plan B with 1st wife - haven't spoken to her in 10 years, actually think its our 10 year anniversary around now ("I'm not bitter" said in my Irish accent).

Actually, Me, WW, exWW and exWW's OM were at a mutual friends wedding about 5/6 years ago, exWW was squeezing past WW at the bar and gave her an almighty thump in the back - what was that all about?

Me and WW laughed about it.

FreeAllAngels

PS Had to say something to get my number of posts increased

Hi SF

You will love biking, I gave myself a motorbike after my first marriage breakdown. Started with a Suzuki GSX600, then bought myself a brand spanking new Fireblade, 1 Aug 1997, picked it up at midnight and rode it all day to run it in. Awesome fun, nothing like the open road, wind in your hair, on your own and doing well feeling. But do be careful a friend nearly killed himself.

Great social scene as well, sadly had to sell bike when 1st DS(now 4) arrived, but that was a fantastic part-exchange.

FreeAllAngels

To the best of my knowledge NC has been kept up (I am very logical, I haven't been with her every second of the day so I donot know definitely), she sent a text message 10:02pm 17th May to OM. I have read the site and she has read the bits I have pointed her to and read further, I have printed sections out and we have read together. We have read a relate book, After the Affair, it was OK, it introduced me to the fact she was going to experience emotions relating to OM, then the website introduced me to 'withdrawl'- knowing these things has been beneficial in how I have related to her.

I have to start up another thread, otherwise I will have people shouting at me.

FreeAllAngels

LOL - you're pretty good at Plan B then.


<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> I need a flow diagram for all those acronyms...you've collected quite a few!

That must have been an odd situation at a wedding. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

Posted new thread in General Discussion>>Other Topics>>Where is the glossary? I need to speak but cant without the glossary!

FreeAllAngels

Hi Free !

Great handle - Humming "Burn baby Burn" now , probably all day you bugger !

Welcome to the best club on earth that nobody wants to be a member of <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

It may seem wierd hanging around an American ostensibly Christian board but the recoveries I have seen as a result of Drs Harley and the folks on here have been quite staggering.

You have work to do but THE ODDS LOOK GOOD MATE !

By the way HERE is a thread with all the MB acronyms in

Hi Bob

Wondered whether anyone would work out the handle, yes it is reference to the joint best band in the world - ASH.

"Joint?" I hear you say, yes a position held jointly with another Irish band, from Northern Ireland as well - Snow Patrol.

We both know the work at our relation ship will never stop.

FreeAllAngels

I've liked a few Irish bands over the years - Lizzy, Radiators from Space, Therapy ?, 4ofUS, U2, Pogues, Undertones... I'm so old, I fought the original punk wars !

Ash are a smashing powerpop band. I guess the English equivalent would be Supergrass, 'cept they don't have a babe playing with them like Ash do !

Thanks for the welcome. Norway is a pretty country. I am hoping to get to England sometime within the next year. I have some aquaintances in Leeds.

Thanks for posting the southern dictionary. Too funny. I'm from the upper midwest so I am safe. The scary thing is there are people who talk like that.

Being American and having that way of thinking I struggle alot with what seems to be the (from what I read here) general feeling towards counseling, self help etc.

H is super reluctant and kinda goes by the "pretend it isn't happening" rule. My life has been changed by IC years back and I know how life changing and R changing it can be. It's sad for me because I know H and I could be happy and we could work through alot of this stuff much better and more efficiently.

Anybody want to help me understand this reluctance or offer some advice on how I can deal with it or maybe make it make sense to H?

Symphony

SOL

I can only speak for myself.

My reticence to self help and therapy comes from the vacuous and recreational usage of such by the chattering classes in the UK but mostly in the US.

Its basically paying someone to tell you that you're wonderful and giving you guidance as to how you can be loved by everyone.

That is anathema to me.
But what the MB experience has shown me is that such is RECREATIONAL use of pop psychology.

When in a crisis situation expert therapy can really help identify problesm and work on them.

I STILL hate recreational therapy, but I am now a respecter and valuer of remedial therapy.

That make any sense ?

Bob,



After reading it 3 times, yes. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

H said therapy is someone getting inside your head and telling you what a mess you are and how badly you have screwed up. Since he already knows he screwed up he isn't paying someone to tell him that. Guess he doesn't see the point.

I agree with you on the differences. One seems more a fad than a real, honest search for growth or to find ways to understand and resolve issues. Thanks for the input.

Symphony

Dug this up from page 6 - GOOOOOOOOD MOOOOORNING EUROPE !! (aha, reference to what film?)

Edited to add some sense <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I love your definition, Bob, "Its basically paying someone to tell you that you're wonderful and giving you guidance as to how you can be loved by everyone."

So true of a lot of "therapy". And if it would really work, that would be great, wouldn't it? But few therapies like that have an effect that lasts longer than a few days. Then "reality" sets in and you're back where you started.

In my experience there are a few gifted, experienced people around in this world, that CAN make a difference by making you understand what is the cause of the things you don't like in your life/yourself. They can give you the tools to fix it. If you ever find such a person - a friend, a therapist, a doctor... cherish that person and that relationship, because it's hard to find.

Oh and Bob - if you need something to keep your son busy - surf to www.sithsense.com. Turn on the sound and enjoy! (but be prepared to get insulted first <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />)

G'day europe!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Just dropping in from the Antipodes to keep an eye on the Europeans .....heh heh heh <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Hows everything going Bob? Hope you & family are ok!


My thoughts on the OM today are :........
"He is one of those people who would be enormously improved by death." <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />