I know your right about that ..... I knew it was babble, so I didn't feel sorry for him at all .....

I might be in love with him and mess up sometimes but I sure don't have STUPID tattooed across my forehead ......

I got ya inanutshell... I really fell for this one by him using the story of moving to his mothers.... Guess I had some widhful thinking going on .... MIL did offer him to move there so I really believed he was going through with it...

You got that right he has lied so much he believes what he says... I often wonder when and if he comes out of this how is he going to react when he realizes how many lies he told.... he probably won't remember half of them, heck he can't seem to remember what he says now... Whole conversations seem to be lost to him, he says I don't remember saying that .... Is it really he does not remember of is it an excuse?

That is just the typical WS.

Be sure you have it CLEAR in your little head that what he SAYS means nothing. Watch his actions.

your right again.... Some of his actions yesterday were on the up and up .. the job thing and all.... He even went so far as to tell his family and our son what he was going to do.. We all expected him to be at his moms last nite...
So this morning when I realized he was a no show, he had lied again ..... More like OW cried and he stayed and then of course by the end of today his whole thinking pattern was back to I am not sure what I want....

So until he actually shows some real actions like moving out from her and doing a n/c letter I am very done with his antics....

I wonder if him being on the road for a few weeks if he will maybe start ging through withdrawl from her? At least if he is not with her everyday he may be able to start thinking clearer... Is it possible? He does not want the cell phone back to call the kids with, he says I don't want any phones so no one can call me..I need to think

That should help. I think that he is still very attached to you. He has gotten himself into this mess and doesn't want to do the hard work of getting out of it. Thus he is going to "escape".

OW will not do well without him. You can bet on that.

But let's not worry about it right now. We have to be patient and see what actions he takes next. I predict that he will be over for some SF before he goes.

Oh believer I have no doubt he is still attached. You should have seen him yesterday when he first came over here to talk to me... I would not open the door.... He went around to the back and tried there. I finally told him I have nothing to say to you go away... He came to the door knocking 5 times , saying W why are you doing this to me , why are you locking me out ... The only way I opened the door was whn he tried taking my car..... Then I blew it wide open...

And let me tell you all the way to his new job he was talking and holding my hand and telling me what he wanted and hwo he wanted me to be with him. In fact as he was talking about how much he loved me he was crying and got my shirt all wet... I don't doubt the attachement at all... Babble yes but attachment definatley ......

Well he won't get SF from me because I am not seeing him and I will not open the door for him .... he can bang all day long ....

He may come down the chimney. What then?

don' have a chimney ...... he would have to be breaking some windows or something to get in ..... and I doubt he would do that .... He better not anyway ..... and anyway if we had a chimney he would never fit... WH is 6 foot 8 inches tall and weighs like 300 lbs..... and very good looking.... Look almost like Toby Keith .... in fact many people tell him that and he hates it lol

Well, Mom2's WH (and a physician at that) crawled through the doggie door when she was in Plan B.

OMG to funny .... well he won't fit through that either we have weenie dogs so its way to small for him.. about the only thing he could do it stick something in the doggie door and pop the lock because its on a sliding glass door.. But I have put a broom stick in that so the door won't slide open...
Come on believer do you really think that after all that has happen the last 2 days he will even try contact??? I don't think he will ..... He is upset because his mom told him off about what he did again... and she told him not to come over here and get my hopes up and want SF just to change his mind th next day .... He was upset because I told her all he said and did .... that is besides the things we told her together yesterday ...

Yep - I still think he might. Be prepared. He is gonna need a Hurting fix before he leaves - IF he leaves.

we shall see ....Oh I forgot to tell you ....yesterday when all of this happen he went out to his truck and came in with two gifts for me .... One was a picture of these cute little pigs... I collect pigs I have like 500 of them and then a calendar of weenie dogs... He says I saw these and knew you would like them .... Now that is something he has always done for me bring little trinkets home. So I am wondering why after all he has said and done and claims he is happy , why is he buying me things.... He said he saw the picture at a yard sell last week and got it .... I just don't get him..

Well as far as his fix goes he won't get it , yes it will bother me not to tell him bye and be careful on the road but its something I know I have to do, Ican't give in again...

Small world, I collect pigs too. Anyway, stay strong. I'm going to bed. I get up at 5:00AM and it comes early.

Try to sleep and don't worry. I think things are going well for the marriage.

Good night believer sleep well ......

I will try not to worry, I hope you are right ...

My friend called last night and we talked about all of this. She told me I need to put him off on the title to the car. She says who knows what he is up to. she is like the car has been in his name all these years why all of a sudden does he think he needs to change it to yours.

I thought about it and she is right. I have been driving that car like that for years and I am his wife so why worry about it now. So if he asks anyone if I found it yet I will just play it off and say not yet.... I don't trust him doing anything right now.

I am sitting here wondering does this marriage have any chance left? I want it to have a chance but I am not sure anymore if it does.

But then again I think of WH and what he does and says ... I know alot of it is babble and not to listen to it.

I try to tell myself if he was truly done he would have left without looking back and not want to speak to me and have SF with me. He freaks out when I won't speak or see him. I now know this is something I have to do , I have to make him see what he is loosing. 24 yrs is along time just to walk away from. I know some people have done it but I know my real H and thats just not him... The real H is someone who loves his family and they are important to him. will he ever become the real H again? I pray he does .....

What are you doing? REad your last post. Stop. You're saying the same ole thing you've been saying at least while I've been following your thread. Again, like Dr. Phil says - "How's it working for you"? NOT


I can tell you that if and when your WH is allowed to try to be a part of the family again, it's NOT going to be easy. Staying in the marriage isn't the easy way, it's the hard way. NOTHING will be the same as it was before. What you knew as normal doesn't come back. Sure there are hints of it, but for the most part no.

I will be completely surprised if he doesn't try and make C with you today or tomorrow. DON'T fall for it.

Have you been working on employment? What about the appointment with Human Services? Did you hand him his boxes of clothese, tools etc. while he was there babbling? NOPE and you know why - - because he suckered you in with his babbling and blah, blah, blah. Remember ACTIONS not words.

He seems to make C with MIL and she's in the middle already, so you're not putting any undo stress on her that I can see. Haul his boxes and tools over to her house TODAY. He's having his cake and eat it too and you enabled him by allowing him into your world with his babble. Poor little WH.

DARK, DETACH, DON'T ENBALE HIS BEHAVIOR, DON'T ENGAGE HIM.

I am not going to engage him. I almost know he is going to try for C again of that I have no doubt.

I know it won't be easy if and when he wants back in the family and I am prepared for that. I know it will never be like it was before. I don't want before I want something better.

I am not giving him anything , its all in the shed for now. And thats were it can stay. When and if he wants it he can ask someone to get it for him. It's not in my house for me to look at. He obviously is not concerned over it so why should I be.

I am still looking for work, so far no takers. Human services appt. went well , I should know something soon. This is just getting so frustrating not being able to find work.

I just remembered something he said the other day to me and I kinda just let it roll off my back.... He was saying that since OW lost her sugar daddy because of him nw she will have a hard time paying for her car.... He said that he would put money in her acconut and help her out until its paid for.. I told him that won't work for me and he let it go.... So now I wonder if he plans on doing this? One thing is for sure , she is now asking him for money since her money supply ran out ..... Hopefully this will cause some problems for them since he has to pay me as well....

WH's so stupid they can't see how they are being used up and sucked dry .....