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Assuming you will be truthful, you have eliminated women who think abstinence is important (not the practice, but the belief), they won't date you. You limit yourself to those women who prefer pre-marital sex as part of a unmarried relationship...not saying one woman is "better" than the other...just noting there are consequences. Ideally people would only have relationships with those who share their boundaries, but unfortuneately people lie, and or go along cause they want the person (whether they go along with sex as LL did, or go along with abstinence)...that has consequences too (all bad, people should not compromise their values just to get something, that itself is red flag for an unworthy partner). I will be honest, I always am. I think though that assuming a woman who prefers abstinence will not date me is a fallacy. I have dated woman that will not have PMS, and been honest about my past, I have nothing to hide. What I have done and what I do are what makes me, me. I have found zero need to limit myself to "one" type of woman. I do not see the consequence's here at all. I am completely upfront about my preferences and beliefs so it is up to her to decide whether or not I fit into what "her" ideal is. I am curious, are you ok with a woman whom you really find interesting, attractive, intelligent worthy in every way, not dating you cause she beleives abstinence is the better strategy to build a successful relationship that ends in marriage. Why wouldn't I be OK with that Knight? It is her decision to make and quite frankly the sea is FILLED with potential mates. I don't believe in "soulmates" or "the one" so why would I truly care? I'm not going to be emotionally attached after a couple dates or 4 and by then I am sure the topic will have been discussed. There are too many other women (and for her too many other men) to hang my head over one that gets away.Are you also ok with having to tell a prospective partner you have had X number of serious relationships, all involving sex, but none worked out? Sort of similar to each of us having to decide whether to date someone who has been divorced multiple times, most of us won't do that. As you continue to slip down that slippery slope each "relationship" reduces the number of quality women who will date you because of your history...that would not be an issue if you had been abstinent...we all make a major distinction between a past of "dating" but abstinent...and a past of having sex in most (if not all) serious relationships....just something to think about. More of those negative consequences....but abstinent people are seen as quality matches, (yes they may be messed up...but the initial perception is favorable..so they have more options), and people with a history of sexualizing their relationships are seen in more negative lights in comparison....there are reasons for all this. I have absolutely NO problem discussing my past relationships Knight. None at all but I think I pointed out in my other post the "why's" of why my past LTR's didn't work out. I think your basic premise is overlooking details. If I simply stated to a prospective mate the basics like "Yeah slept with so and so, and so and so, and sos and so" then yes that wouldn't look good because the extremely important details are missing, don't you think? You forget that there are actual events that surround these relationships. I approach it like this when it is brought up, I explain why my marriage failed and how I have grown as a man since then. The things I have learned and my new philosophy on relationships. It hasn't been a negative but a positive when I show my willingness to open, honest and forgiving. Anyways, good luck with your choice of sexual paradigm, and regardless of anything else, a thorough understanding and application of MB principles will increase your likelihood of success. Here is where we can be completely in agreement!I do wonder though, given your statements (elsewhere) about sex...if you dated someone who refused to have sex before marriage, and was ok with you simply adhereing to the boundary (and not requiring you beleive it to), would you marry her without pre-marital sex? Suppose the courtship takes a year or two (and no sex buddy of course on the side). Well of course you don't have sexual relations outside of a committed relationship, thats a given. Honestly? About this sitch? My gut tells me no I wouldn't, would I date somebody for companionship that doesn't believe in PMS? Of course I would but thats because I enjoy good conversation and making friends, getting serious however is probably not in the cards if that is strictly off the table. There is nothing wrong with making new friends at all.
"Who are you" said the Caterpillar This was not an encouraging opening for a conversation.
Alice replied, rather shyly, "I--I hardly know, sir, just at present...At least I know who I WAS when I got up this morning, but I think I must have been changed several times since then."
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