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Mel, I was only basing my opinion on WHAT WAS TOLD TO ME AS FACT HERE. Car told us she told him everything.....everything. The whole thing. You are right, it was an assumption, based on WHAT WAS TOLD TO ME. Perhaps, I erred on assuming that he knew everything....but based on what was TOLD to me, I formed this opinion. Give SH the doubt, no problem, he is obviously very skilled and successful at what he does (and I can honestly appreciate that), but I truly think ****SOME**** people here are more upset at the fact that I am questioning his advice, rather than a remark that I made that was NOT LITERAL. That's bullcrap and spin. You know darn good and well people are incensed that you insinuated he is a charletan, only out for a quick buck, not that you "questioned" him. sheesh, you called him the "pope" in a backhanded slam. That was really shabby and I would dislike the insinuation no matter who it was made against. I will conceed that maybe I am the one DEAD WRONG here and Steve is right, but I still stand by my right to question it. And NOBODY has questioned your right to question him: NO BODY. What folks have issue with are your cheap shots and nasty, uninformed conclusions. That is not right, LM. Sure, he may have the same facts we do [altho I sort of doubt it] but for all you know, he may have a better strategy than you or I. I have to withhold judgement on that and see what happens. But I have no conpunction about challenging professionals, my doctor flees when she sees me coming with my hands full of "research" from PubMed. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> If anyone really wants to turn this board into a board where NOONE is allowed to question or disagree with SH, then honestly just say so. Oh quit, that is not the issue and never has been. Quit trying to pretend that you simply "questioning." You were condemning, not "questioning." Calling him names and implying he is a charletan out to make a buck is not "questioning." It is an attack. Damn............<Lemonman looking right past the 2 x 4 that swung by his head>. Mel, it's cool. I hope you said your peace. There is no reason for me to respond here, hopefully this will get us back on oppossites of things so the earth's balance can realign........LOL....It is all good. SM As far as I am concered I have already addressed my remarks with regrds to the situation...out
Some people just don't get it, they don't get it that they don't get it.
I had the right to remain silent.......but I didn't have the ability.
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Fair enough, my friend. It has just been too quiet between us lately! Feels normal again. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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Fair enough, my friend. It has just been too quiet between us lately! Feels normal again. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Yeah, I already feel better......ahhhh, the calrity seems just perfect around here..... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> I think we were in a "fog", and now were out, but this is just not the scene were the couple "gets back together" LM
Some people just don't get it, they don't get it that they don't get it.
I had the right to remain silent.......but I didn't have the ability.
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I just wanna know, did you click on my "bullcrap" link?? I LOVE THAT PART!
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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I just wanna know, did you click on my "bullcrap" link?? I LOVE THAT PART! No I didn't. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> SM <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> P.S. But I did now..........LMFAO <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> you are one sick Texan . What is it you are eatnig in the cattle down there?
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Some people just don't get it, they don't get it that they don't get it.
I had the right to remain silent.......but I didn't have the ability.
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I just wanna know, did you click on my "bullcrap" link?? I LOVE THAT PART! No I didn't. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> SM <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> you dawg! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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I just wanna know, did you click on my "bullcrap" link?? I LOVE THAT PART! No I didn't. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> SM <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> P.S. But I did now..........LMFAO <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> you are one sick Texan . What is it you are eatnig in the cattle down there? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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My overall point was this: IF Steve H gave this advice to Car, and he KNEW the whole story this is the part I have my doubts about .... "the whole story" ... ummmm doubtful any of us have heard the whole story ... it's prolly worse than we know! Pep - Does everyone know the whole story now ?? Or, do you have more to reveal ?? The reason why I did not say this before - I don't even think of it. It was never an issue between us. We agreed that it was a divorce ONLY on paper. But it made me feel a little better financially and not having to be legally responsible for him. I suppose you know this too that my WH used to be a biker. Rode with a gang out of Fort Worth. Not many bikers wear their (or own) wedding rings, esp. when divorced, but he did. He always presented himself as married, as I did. Most people who knew us did not know any different. So, really your revelation means nothing. WE felt like we were always married. WE thought nothing of it. We got remarried only for the reason that when I quit my job, in order to get on his insurance, we needed to be married. So no big deal, we got remarried. It kind of disturbs me that you know this information. Do you also know where I live and where I bank ???? Carnation
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Carnation:
If you're counseling with Steve Harley, I would suggest that you continue to listen to him, and pay less attention to the boards for advice. I counseled with Steve for a year or so before the site had a BB, and I was quite happy to get my marriagebuilding information from one source. It can get very noisy on these boards, and you will get a wide variety of opinions and advice---much of it will be contrary to the MB principles. The toughest stuff to deal with is the stuff that's wrapped in MB-lingo and almost sounds sensible, but is wrong.
If these boards are causing you more problems---I'd strongly urge you to leave them for now. And my guess is that Steve would advise the same. Tell him that "K" says "hi".
(And be careful who you take advice from. Get it from people who have a track record of success.)
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LM......can you not stay out of trouble for more than 5 minutes? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> Every time you show back up it's like the shoot out at the O.K. Corral. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Anyway....congrats on your 1 year of being here. I personally like your outspoken attitude. To K...I would like to ask you a question. Why should people stick to asking advice from those that have a track record of success? While I agree that to some point asking advice from those that have been through the same situation is an advantage. Are there not several different measures of success? Is this to say that a BS should only ask advice from a BS who is in Recovery with their WS...or that a WS should only ask advice from a WS? I'm only asking because I think that EVERYONE here could learn something from EVERYONE else. Now...as for LM......ANYONE who has been here for a while knows how he is...how he responds. IF you post to him...ask him a question....respond to him....one should know what they are going to get. I personally do not think that his intent is to hurt feelings or be a complete a$$. He is who he is. He shouldn't have to change to please everyone else. In fact...I don't believe he would even try to...just to please everyone here. LM is...well......LM......talk to him....take what he throws at you....or ignore him. OK....I'm leavin' the Corral now....my guns are empty.
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Neaksis asked me if I'd been on this congratulatory and celebratory thread lately to see its metamorphosis, which I hadn't. However, her description of it intrigued me, so I've read everything up-to-date now, and all I have to say is this: <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> There are things on MB worse than being ignored, aren't there? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> Apparently the first-year anniversary gift around here is wood. You go. Party hearty! I'll just be over here scuba diving in the Pool of Introspection with the sharks, where it's SAFE!!! t&l
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