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The alien mothership that captures WS can only be unlocked from the inside...


Me BS 44
XH 45
M 20 years
D19
D12
DDay 11.29.04
Separated 12.29.04
Plan A 24.02.05
Plan B 10.9.05
Plan D 2.2.06
Divorce 13.6.06
OW - former friend and D12's x-godmother (Skunkypoo)
OWH - philander, XH's former best friend (still shares skunkypoo with XH)


Anger = drinking a rat poison and waiting/wishing the rat would notice you drink it and the rat die from it.
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'Affairs suck.'

- origins unknown, but pretty much a universal BS POV.

Alph.


Me, BS 37 Him, WXH (Noddy) 40 DD13, DD6 Married 14th August 1993 D/Day 2nd April 05 Noddy left us 3rd April 05, lives with OW (Omelette) 28 Divorce final 6th July '06. Time wounds all heels... - Groucho Marx ...except when it doesn't. - Graycloud
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"It's a dog eat dog world and I'm wearing milk-bone underwear"

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Cheers

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"People who have nothing to hide, don't hide"
- MelodyLane

"I believe that in life we must take, either what we have been dealt, or what we've chosen to pick up, and then use those experiences to shape us into something better than even, we ourselves, had originally envisioned. I think that we must then take the personal gains that we collect from life lessons and use them, to the best of our ability, for the benefit of others..."
- Mrs Wonderings

I just LOVE this thread! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

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"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt

Exposure 101


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In our youth we think with our minds and feel with our hearts. Once we truly grow up, it is the other way around.

I think Simone de Beauvoir said this, but I couldn't find the quote.


Me BS 44
XH 45
M 20 years
D19
D12
DDay 11.29.04
Separated 12.29.04
Plan A 24.02.05
Plan B 10.9.05
Plan D 2.2.06
Divorce 13.6.06
OW - former friend and D12's x-godmother (Skunkypoo)
OWH - philander, XH's former best friend (still shares skunkypoo with XH)


Anger = drinking a rat poison and waiting/wishing the rat would notice you drink it and the rat die from it.
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Melody, the quote I've posted from you sound like Dr Phil. But he is also from Texas so that explains a lot, doesn't it? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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Melody Lane told me this not too long ago and I now have it posted above my computer at work.

Everyone feels FEAR, but not everyone CHOOSES to be ruled by their fears.

I am trying, very hard, to incorporate that into my life.

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"Dealing with a Wayward Spouse is more difficult than nailing Jello to a tree!"

~adaptation of original quote by unknown author



"Real Men Love G.R.I.T.S.~[color:"red"]G[/color]irls [color:"red"]R[/color]aised [color:"red"]I[/color]n [color:"red"]T[/color]he [color:"red"]S[/color]outh!"

~Origin Unknown



"If Heaven Ain't Alot Like Dixie, I Don't Wanna Go!"

~Hank Williams Jr.~Bocephus



***I just had to put in those last two, with all the talk about Texas, I just couln't leave Dixie out...that would've been just plain unpatriotic of me, YA'LL! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

*** <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />Suzet, I have so many "thank yous" to give to you for the many sweet posts that you've made referencing me~I can't keep up with you, girl! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />I am humbled <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />...You are a truly AMAZING LADY!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


FWW ~ 47 ~ Me
FBH ~ 50 ~ MrWondering
DD ~ 17
Dday ~ 2005 ~ Recovered

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Sorry, another one of my own:

"Shedding the emotional baggage is what recovery is about. You do yours, your BS or WS is responsible for doing theirs. And maybe, just maybe, at the end of the process you'll have clean emotional underwear and be able truly 2 enjoy each other's company again."

-ol' 2long

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Well I guess right now you can believe a lot of things. Everyone should believe in something. I believe I'm going to have another beer.

My husband Aussie's responding babble to some pathetic excuse babble I gave waaay back when. Can't even remember anything else about it but his response

Sort of stuck with me since then. lol <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


Life may feel as if you are constantly getting kicked on a daily basis, living is about picking yourself up each day and going on and on and on regardless.

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Thanks Mrs Wonderings! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> But now I feel humbled too... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />...and SHY...<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />. It seems I can't keep up with YOU now! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Love ya! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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"If you think the way to a man's heart is through his stomach, you are aiming too high."


May the Lord Bless You and Keep You, John Rahrrrrrr!!
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"It is the man who does not want to express an opinion
whose opinion I want."
-Abraham Lincoln~

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Abe Lincoln was once asked why his legs were so long.

"So they'd reach from my body 2 the ground" was his reply.

-ol' 2long

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My personal favorites...I have actually been saving them as I stumble upon them on the site...thanks to those from whom I pilfered them, you know who you are! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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If you harbor bitterness, happiness will dock somewhere else. – Anonymous


I'm not a WS anymore. That person is long since gone. It's just taking me a while to stop turning and looking at that person - Lordslady


The actions you speak are louder than your words!


You did then, what you knew how to do, and when you knew better, you did better - Maya Angelou


Moving on, is a simple thing, It's what you leave behind that's hard. - Dave Mustaine


Resentment is like taking poison expecting the other person to die.


The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." Winston Churchill


History, despite its wrenching pain, cannot be unlived, but if faced with courage, need not be lived again.
--Maya Angelou


43yr old FWH who has rediscovered morality Divorced: 03 February 2006 XW: My threads say it all "Well, I guess if a person never quit when the going got tough, they wouldn't have anything to regret for the rest of their life..."
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Without self-control closeness is more like a pacifier for anxiety.
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This is a little long...but was one of the most important posts to me in my life. I was at the crossroads, was in Plan B, wife was not sure what she was doing...and I had filed for divorce and was days away fro mthe custody hearing. I was so confused on what to do, as I didnt know if my wife was truly coming back, or if she was just trying to hold me in place.

And then, Just Learning posted this response. I have never forgotten it. And much of it applies to any decision we have in our life. Anyway, it is a quotable quote...although a little long:

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You are making something very very simple very very hard.

First, I really endorse all that the people before me have suggested. I would however like to put what they have said in a different light. So you are really NOT hearing anything new, just repeated in a slightly different way.

I see your position as the simplest of all positions and thus you have NOTHING to worry about. Do you believe that? You should. Allow me to expound on this.

First, you are emotionally ready to "stack arms" and call it a day. The pain has stopped. So what is the problem? You have none here. You are ready and capable, and you know life will move on. You KNOW you can take care of 3 kids and still work: you are doing it. You know another woman will find you attractive and be interested in you. You know you have done all you could and the reward for your efforts is PEACE.

I see no problem.

You say you fear going back into the pain. My STRONG recommendation is simple, DON'T GO BACK INTO THE PAIN. Dah! Was it painful to eat dinner and hold your W? NO! Why? No OM, she WANTED to be with you, and frankly you felt safe in your position to offer your shoulder for her to cry on. No pain here, right?

You worry about whether the marriage could be rebuilt or that you really WANT to stay married to her. Yes, your marriage can be rebuilt. No you don't want to stay married to the woman you have been married to for the last 19 months. But, what if a NEW woman appeared in your life. She had a new career. She loved your children. She loved you and appeciated what a strong man you are? What if this woman showed up in a few months. Would you divorce the old wife and take up with this new woman? You bet your bippy you would, IF you were divorced.

BUT, what if this new woman was your W? Well, then you could be divorced or you couldn't be divorced and you could take up with her. First, you would have to learn about her, you would have to discuss your goals and hers. You would need to agree on child rearing questions, money questions, sex, and how deep your love was for each other. The last one takes time to discover.

Where is the problem? I don't see one. Your W or another woman is going to have to fall for you and you are going to have to fall for her. This can happen before the divorce if it is your W or it can happen after the divorce then it can be anyone. No problem it will happen in its time.

Are you getting the picture here? You are a man capabe of love and fidelity. You are capable of raising your children on your own, if necessary. Your W is the one with serious decisions to make. Then she will have to figure out how to overcome what she has done.

My only other strong recommendation to you is to LET her if she tries. I know there is a strong temptation to be hard to get. I know there is a strong temptation to protect yourself. But, you have dealt with the worst she has to offer, so try dealing with the best, IF it is offered.

I agree with Coffeeman and others, she will have to earn it. But the earning shouldn't be to overcome barriers from you, but simply just YOU.

You have trusted God so far, don't waver now. Let things progress, and continue your course. This isn't complicated. She must make a decision. She must change her approach to you. You must fall in love with her again, and she with you. And then the two of you must learn about each other. You have both changed sooooo much in the last 2 years, and while you may not believe this MM, YOU BOTH HAVE CHANGED FOR THE BETTER. If that weren't true you, truely don't have anything to worry about now do you?

MM, in my life I have found that when push came to shove ALL of the major decisions in my life were really made for me. When it all played out there was only ONE way to go. I could have chosen another, but the data was clear that this would be a bad choice, and in retrospect they were. So have faith, have patience, and smile. You have arrived. Your work is done. It is simply a matter now of seeing how other people handle THEIR decisions.

You have little reason to fear this now.

God Bless,

JL


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FBS (me) (48)
FWW (41)
Married April 1993...
4 kids (19(B), 17(G), 14(B), 4(B))
Blessed by God more than I deserve
"If Jesus is your co-pilot...you need to change seats!"

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"I vote for run as fast as you can, this man isn't worth your attention and he's treating two women like doormats/sperm receptacles simultaneously. LOSER!"

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