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Lucky for me, him and our daughter that he doesn't have a pair of his own...he'd never make it out of the shower to get ready for work, and then we'd all be homeless!!! I have to keep mine under lock and key for this very reason!!! LOL <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Mrs. Wondering [/quote]





Bwahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!


In the end, I have nothing to lose but everything to gain, by trying to save my marriage.

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That WAS damn funny! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt

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duly noted that Mrs kds LAUGHED for the first time on this forum. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

What a beautiful sound that was. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt

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LOL!!I should have know H was turning into WH. Traded in Geometro for a brand new flaming red Monty Carlo SS and then progressed to a new Mustang. About the time he got the Monty Carlo he started drinking Corona and watching NASCAR.


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"I love you but not IN love with you" speech 6/3/04
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We are IN love again!!!Sept 2007
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LOL!!I should have know H was turning into WH. Traded in Geometro for a brand new flaming red Monty Carlo SS and then progressed to a new Mustang. About the time he got the Monty Carlo he started drinking Corona and watching NASCAR.

MAN, that was a major red flag girl. Now you will have more knowledge should this unfortuately happen again him with cheat on you again.

Remember.................RISK FACTORS.....That is all say. Risk factor Reduction is the key.

Lem <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


Some people just don't get it, they don't get it that they don't get it.

I had the right to remain silent.......but I didn't have the ability.
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Mine bought a brand new Harley. It was his lifetime dream. We barely had it home before he was riding off into the sunset with OW.

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Mine showed no signs of anything.... He was always home on time from work and always came home from bowling on time and always has a kid with him there. And we always were together on the weekends.... We had no cell phones at that time so. I left for vacation was gone about a week and a half and boom .....

I was so blindsided by this ..... I know somehow along the way they has to have been in a EA for this to take off so fast .. Only thing I can think of is talking at the bowling alley on Saturday nites.

And he was just as loving to me as always up until the day I left for vacation...

Needless to say I saw no risk factors ....


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Mine showed no signs of anything.... He was always home on time from work and always came home from bowling on time and always has a kid with him there. And we always were together on the weekends.... We had no cell phones at that time so. I left for vacation was gone about a week and a half and boom .....

I was so blindsided by this ..... I know somehow along the way they has to have been in a EA for this to take off so fast .. Only thing I can think of is talking at the bowling alley on Saturday nites.

And he was just as loving to me as always up until the day I left for vacation...

Needless to say I saw no risk factors ....

Hurting, you had minimal risk factors, but you have to realize this is all probabilities....not absolutes. Some people with NO risk Factors are afflicted with infidelity, just like health nuts who run 10 miles a day and eat salad and chicken and nuts all day die of sudden cardiac death...it is just statistical probability. In my research, bowling is a MAJOR risk factor, so perhaps that was enough.

Goodluck.

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Some people just don't get it, they don't get it that they don't get it.

I had the right to remain silent.......but I didn't have the ability.
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Lately WH has been talking about getting a used Volvo.

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bowling is a MAJOR risk factor
LOL! We went bowling as a family last night...I beat WH. I've been thinking of trading in the minivan for a convertible...just kidding! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

edited to clarify kidding about convertible

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BS-45 me
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DS-14 & DD-12
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D-Day 2/25/05; WH moved out 3/15/05 & back too soon 3/22/05...He left again 5/8/06
5/25/06 Plan B.....NC letter 6/18/06
Recovery finally began Jan 2007
We are IN love again!!!Sept 2007
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Lately WH has been talking about getting a used Volvo.

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bowling is a MAJOR risk factor
LOL! We went bowling as a family last night...I beat WH. I've been thinking of trading in the minivan for a convertible...just kidding! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

edited to clarify kidding about convertible

A minivan is a POSITIVE risk factor...kind of like High Density Lipoprotein cholesterol which is the "protective" form of cholesterol or known to the laymen as "Good cholesterol".

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Some people just don't get it, they don't get it that they don't get it.

I had the right to remain silent.......but I didn't have the ability.
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yeah bowling was the risk factor I guess.... I kinda feel like that is my fault as well... We always bowled together of Sat. for like 11 yrs... Last yr I wanted a break and didn't, and look what happen .....


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Hurting, there is a big parody component to this all, and is meant as Lemonman's Infidelity principles. You see Willard Harley and Steve Harely have centered their marrriage recovery program around the concept of "emotional needs" and "addictions" and "love banks". I have never see eye to eye with all of that and as a result have struggled to fit in here in this message board. Early on when I came to the board, literally every other thread here was titled "LEMONMAN" and I was usually given a long post abotu how wrong I am and how I am not doing this right, or that right and that I am not "marriage building". Occasionally some of those posts were congratulatory posts, but not many.

SO I have decided to frame my OWN theory based on the concept that the American College Of Cardiology uses on Risk factors for developing Coronary Artery Disease, thus I am beginning to frame my own infidelity theory.

I will NOT be forming a recovery program however, as Dr harely and Mr Steve Harley have what seems like a great plan in aplce with very high success rates. No reason to try and start my business there.

Lem.


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Traded in Geometro

Isn't that the same as a "2 Door Speck"? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> LOL...Anyone remember that commercial? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

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FBH ~ 50 ~ MrWondering
DD ~ 17
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Well Lem, then you'll be busy with this study. How about some guidelines after your first interpretable results, along the lines of JNC7 telling us just how much of a risk factor (like bowling!) is ok, and how much is too much? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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yeah bowling was the risk factor I guess.... I kinda feel like that is my fault as well... We always bowled together of Sat. for like 11 yrs... Last yr I wanted a break and didn't, and look what happen .....

Are we scary or what...I wasn't able to make it to through darts that day/night with WS because DD was still having her sleep over guest for her bday party. By the time she went home I figured WS was on his way home...yeah right...


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SO I have decided to frame my OWN theory based on the concept that the American College Of Cardiology uses on Risk factors for developing Coronary Artery Disease

So this is Lemonman's Framingham ? Shall we refer to it as the "Lemonmanham Study" ?

At work, I carry a pocket sized plastic Framingham guide for quick reference ..... will there be a similar Lemonmanham pocket sized tool available soon ? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

What about a mid-life purchase of an outrageously family-un-friendly vehicle? Yesterday I went to a party where one of the couples arrived in a Lotus purchased by the Mr. 24 hours earlier. The Mrs. was sooooo pissed off that the Mr. agreed to allow her to purchace (immediately) her dream car , an expensive Audi. We were playing cards, and I asked the Mr. "Have you spoken to your insurance representative yet?" ..... and there was a pretty red faced muttering response .... "Yes I have. It's UNBELIEVABLE." They still have one child , a 16 year old son, living under their roof ..... and my mind went quick-as-a-catholic-bunny to the Lemonmanham Study and I thought Lotus Elan may very well be a high risk factor .

What say you?

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Oh dear, what a tongue twister ~ careful, Framingham was such a pivotal study that if we model after it, we could be stuck with Lemonmanham for a long time!

Say that three times fast!


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and besides, I want to know...

my husband drove a Ford Taurus SHO during his affair years...now he drives a Lincoln LS...did his risk factor drop?

And during that time I drove a Jeep Grand Cherokee....how did that affect my risk benefit ratio?

Do the cars each spouse drives affect the other?

Someone get a statistician in here dang it.


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My dream car is an Audi TT...

I just can't make up my mind which color!~~


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Well Lem, then you'll be busy with this study. How about some guidelines after your first interpretable results, along the lines of JNC7 telling us just how much of a risk factor (like bowling!) is ok, and how much is too much? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Bramble:

Very astute point. I will be setting up and publishing guidelines for the various subsets of risk factors...along the lines of the JNC VII (are you also a RN or in healthcare?). People underestimate the Bowling phenemenon factor. There must be something about the whole bowling scene that is the lure. Smking, drinking, hanging out, competitive nature....this could be the key. I will review the data and soon publish the guidelines.

Lem <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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