[color:"blue"]I don't understand my ex. Well, I do, but I guess I just still can't believe it. What kind of dad would choose to move 4 hours away from his kids. There was an OW but then she became another woman's OW because ex started dating and has had two steady GFs that are not the OW. OW is still in the picture - the kids have met her.

Anyway, how many parents don't think about their children like this? Does it seem crazy that the ex would up and leave? He visits EOW and tells them (sob) how much he misses them - I have to give him credit for driving and staying in hotels for so long. I refused to let him cart them in the car EOW or meet him halfway EOW because it would be hard on the kids with so much travelling.
With the price of gas the way it is, I'm glad I did insist on not splitting the driving equally.

He recently got fired (he said he quit) and I offered he could live in my house and look for work locally where the job market is better. He never replied to the offer. He chooses to live in a dead portion of the state where there are no jobs.

Anyway - I think he is nuts - what do you think? Anyone else have this kind of craziness?

V.[/color]

My ex is a quiet soft spoken beautiful devil in disguise.

ouch, those are the worst <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

My ex is an abusive, lying, cheating, selfish, calculating, manipulating SOB and I've never hated anyone as much as I hate him.

But I'm not bitter...LOL <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

My ex is a teenager, with the characteristics of a normal 6 year old (NPD I believe).
Thank god his mommy continues to enable him, or I don't know how he'd see the children or actually parent them.

I have to go to mediation tomorrow because X is throwing a hissy fit about Halloween, and his lawyer failed to put the holiday schedule in the final document. Duh - and when he didn't provide it in advance we didnt' have much time to review for the really big stuff.

Narcisstic, manipulative, passive/aggressive ISTJ who would rather be dead than wrong. And he is fat and has a bad haircut. Not to mention, he dresses like with the fashion sense of a green pea. And, horror, sometimes wears this white shirt cut like a scrub shirt and it looks like a maternity top on his fat, ugly body.

However, he loves his children <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> and sends child support check on time every 1/2 of the month. Says he loves them but will do favors for others rather than do things like meet with the therapist.

This one's easy.

Picture Jim Carrey in "Liar Liar" with breasts - small ones. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

And she snores - loudly. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

And she's hypocritical. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

And she lies to her daughter to save face. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

Other than that - she's top-shelf! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

FR

My xh is the beautiful devil in disguise with the smoothest tongue of the sharpest salesman...and loaded with money.

He's the ultimate WH fantasy

My ex is charming, talented, skilled and smart - he is also unable to live in the world of adults, can't keep a job, thinks he should have anything he wants any time he wants it, moody, unable to communicate and made me feel like crap for not making more money to support him and almost convinced me that I'm stupid and incompetent.

I realize how I lowered my expectations for him when I absolutely swoon when guys are complementary, interested in what I have to say and have a job!

Speaking of snoring...Is it just okay for men to snore? Do women snore just as much as men??

I don't thnk snoring is OK or not OK for either gender. It's simply a minor annoyance that is no problem and sometimes laughed about when all is well in the relationship. For me - not sleeping with a snorer is enjoyed.

FR

Ugh, I snore. I think it's more stereotypical for men to be snorers though.

My exh?? Seriously a good person but unbelievably selfish. Would rather hold his money than give his kid lunch money when he could run by the ATM and get more. Everything is always about HIM.

"thinks he should have anything he wants any time he wants it"
I can so relate to this.
So this afternoon, I have to waste time going to a mediator to hash out the holiday schedule 2 years post divorce.
His atty drafted the document and forgot all about holidays. So 2years have passed and now X is throwing a hissy fit about HALLOWEEN!
So, we're off to a mediator/lawyer to sort it all out. What a way to spend a beautiful, sunny fall afternoon.

My X is
7 years older than me and looks like 17 more than me (alcohol?)
he cannot stick to any (ANY) decision longer than 2 days or 2 weeks at best
he lives from today morning to today afternoon not thinking of Tomorrow ('I'll think later on about main issues/problems')
he pays for CS 8% of his salary (because I always earned more than him), yet he speaks about it like he gives me million $s
control issue 2 years after D

But, it's been 2 months that he's sooo depressed...
I think reality hit him very badly

He thought to begin an exciting life of a 25-30 years old when stepping into his own 50's (MLC)

Now he's alone, grass is not greener, loans are getting biger...

My X asked me a few days ago if I could rent him my basement (he bought appartment after D, that he cannot aford anymore; I bought a house for my son and me, and we live just fine)

My X... I feel sorry for him... as a human being can feel sorry for the other human being...

Selfish!!!
Dawn

idiot comes to mind. . .

manipulative is right behind . . .

I had told my son, at some point, as he becomes more of an adult, he will have to stand up to his mom someday, and when he does, he has to do it respectfully, with no names, no attitude. . .

Well, that day came, she asked "why do you not talk with me or ignore me?", and he said he answered respectfully, because he doesn't have the same outlook on life that she does. . . he doesn't have the same values. . .

and the mom went off all hurt. . . and its a moment of individuation, a first step in becoming a self responsible adult. . . and i started to jump on his about saying it respectfully, and he reiterated that he was respectful . .

that's all i can ask. . . now the daughter, with whom X has been much more manipulative, as my X believes that women are the superior race. . . is a harder nut to crack, but I keep working on her. . . and she knows, because I don't yell, but tell them that I am in the parent role at the time, when i am being parental, and when i am being joking around, friendly, supportive dad. . .

its alot easier when you educate with good values and philosophy so that they understand the difference between the two roles. ..

oh, about the x, she is currently fishing at the bottom of the gene pool for anyone who will date her, its so pathetic. . . and the kids very much dislike her bringing home dates, making out on the couch while the kids are asking for homework help, and she is turning them down. . .

UGH

she is no longer the person that i originally married. . .
not even close.

wiftty

My ex is a good person. She is kind, considerate, and slow to anger. She doesn't talk about people behind their backs. She works hard and pays her bills on time.

I would like for her to be more involved with our kids lives, but she does talk to them every day. So, I am grateful for that.

She is more frugal than me and doesn't like to venture too far from her comfort zone.

BG,
Are you saying you she walked away from her kids??

And why, to me, does this always amaze me. WHY do I see it easier for a man to do this than a woman??

I could never, ever walk away from my girls. I just don't understand.

Flip side,
I think it's nice that you are able to find good in her.

Glad to see you back! You have a way of juicing up the board!

Karona

Women walk from their kids all the time.

My ex wife alientated her children when she had the affair. None of our kids want much to do with her. They see her only on rare occasions and have made it clear that they don't want the OM around. When she and the OM got married none of the children showed up.

I hope they are happy. They sure are paying a huge price.

It still blows my mind, but in reality, why do I find it hard to comprehend. I guess it goes back to that whole maternal thing. I suppose animals abandon their young, and people can be much the same when it comes to selfishness.

The boards have been a wake up call for me in that respect.
I have come to realize that there are some great fathers out there.
I have so much respect for what you men have done.

I have been on the flip side, and its really nice to read that this is not the way it is all the time.

Sorry for the side track to the thread!

Karona