I think of you, too, and Brett. Each time I drive around, and I see a "classic" car, I look in and wonder if it is him. I look and see if he'll smile, and I can see if he only has one molar. Or if he gets out, if he has one wooden leg and butt-crack hanging out. Or if I can see him spitting into his spittoon ~ the big hillbilly. I hope his toe eventually healed properly. Good grief, he was a mess!

I still remember that post you did for him, about all the reasons he shouldn't be down, and you did a list for him of everything he had going for him. I swear, that is the hardest I have ever laughed at anything I have read here, hands down! It was SO FUNNY! You really have a gift with words, believer. I often chuckle at your posts, especially the ones when you tell about your WH's attempts at coming home, or borrowing something, or thinking he is "entitled" to something. You must really make his head spin!

Anyway, here's to Brett (clinking our glasses together), hoping he is healthy, happy, content, and has everything he has ever hoped for.

Spidey

believer,

You got it all going on.

Be thankful for what you have, focus on the postitive, and give back what you can, because so many have given to you.

I have been soooo poor and had so much stuff that is negative in my life, and all I want to do now is focus on the postitive. I just thank God for all the good things in our lives and I hope someday, that I can give back for all I have been given.

My mom died recently and it was just so wonderful to give so much of her stuff to the elderly that needed it so much, rather than have a 'yard sale' or whatever.

I don't get to give very often, and it felt so good. and I just pray that we will be able to give more in the future.

God Bless you believer, you are WORTHY.

Love in Christ,
Miss M

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Chasid said:

"Grace is ultimately an offense to some people."

This is such an interesting comment. One that viscerally rings true to me, but yet I cannot site examples of just why it rings true .... any ideas?

I wonder if it's anything to do with another thing Chasid said..


H has often said that he is driven by fear in most things...fear of being fired, fear of losing the house, fear of going broke...fear of loss, I think. I sometimes wonder if a fear of being given to, unless he can see exactly what the price is, ties into this underlying fear of loss. Perhaps it's a fear of hidden costs, or of a price that asks for something he hasn't got.

Does that make any sense?

TA

Believer, on Thursday H and I heard this author speak who is coming out with a book on the levels of intimacy. Anyway, he spoke about how we all have one guiding purpose in our lives. That purpose is to strive to be the best selves we can be. Our friendships, our intimate Rs, our jobs should further that goal. I would say As don't help anyone become their best selves.

He also spoke about in the last 50 yrs. people are trying to fill themselves with illegitimate wants vs legitimate needs. He said illegitimate wants just keep a person wanting more and more. I've been trying to help some withdrawing men over on recovery and it amazes me what a mess they made of their lives. People in As really did go over to the dark side and pulling them back is no easy task.

Anyhoo, I hear ya lady! CV

I just read Sillbreathing's thread (for the first time I guess) and I just got so fed up with these WS <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />...but decided to go over here instead of ranting in her post (not too helpful to her)...

I am just so sickened by WH leaving their wifes that are pregnant <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />.....It is so discusting...Everytime I read one of those threads I end up yelling at the screan...at the WH! It is such a perfect example of ME ME ME ME and did I forget ME! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

Stillbreathing has 5 weeks to delivery (and has 2 small children) and her WH is talking about "I need to figure things out" "I need, I need"...sick just sick....

It is so beyond selfish...I don't understand it...I cannot understand how anyone can feel so entitled! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> And on top of that that man has 2 OW out there....AHHH!

I had to get that out...there is just something very wrong here when a man does not see that leaving his pregnant wife is so wrong....

And that is just one sad story among many.... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Daisy