Okay chere....then I'm going to take you at your word....because if that's true....then we are in agreement.

Well, I think we agree about much on this topic... but I disagree 100% on your position of 'non-labeling' ...

I spent 4 wonderful years dealing with sex abuse victims and sex abuse perpetrators.

Sex abusers do not fall into any particular category. The sex abuser was almost assurdly sexually abused herself. Sex abusers cut across all socio-economic boundaries--so, the abuser could easily be someone who you would socialize with and even "like", no matter if you are very rich or very poor. Most of them have jobs and make a living--which is why it is very confusing when you get involved with them.

Would I offer help to her? Absolutely--unless she gets help, she will do it again. If you want to help the next potential victim, you have to help her.

Some of you are going to say, "Lock her up and throw away the key" or execute her. Whether right or wrong, that isn't going to happen--she is going to get 5 to 10 years. She'll be out in 2.5 to 3.5 years.

Jimmy Mac

It is wonderful that you have acquired the training to help ... I think MB is the wrong forum ...

Well we agree that she's a sex offender.....and that's a label. We agree that this child is a victim....another label. We agree that this marriage is a travesty....So, I'm not label-free am I? The only label we probably might not agree on is "beyond redemption". I'll let a greater power than me decide that. It could be my idealism talking Pep....but I hope most people CAN be helped. The thing about this "couple" that bothers me the most....is that one of them is a child....and so there is more than just an offender as part of this package...there is a victim. I honestly hope to GOD that someone will try to help these people, though they'll likely never come here. I'm not qualified....but I know how to find people who are....and I'd be willing to try to help in that way. I'd also be willing to help the police lock her up too if that were within my power....oh that it were.

I know you didn't ask this question....but HOW can this happen here? Where are this child's parents? I really am more horrifed about those things than I would be about people trying to help them with treatment....because the law, and this child's parents have abandoned him.

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glad to read this .... thanks ... I was thrown off by your previous statement "I would not label her."

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When I saw this story on TV earlier this week ... there was something about his grandmother being his guardian ... I think there are no functioning parental units. So ... there is some back story,to be sure.

she is facing charges ....

she is pregnant ... did you read the story?

So he was probably already victimized....*sigh*

Yes....I read the story....saw that she was pregnant (but didn't see the part about the parents)....just more manipulation. It's the same thing Latourno did.

Yes Star she is Latourno, she stole a childs youth and that child will NEVER get it back. Latourno's now H, will not even realize this for another decade or more, but when he does he will be saddened as well as messed up. This new case is another case of innocence lost, growth lost, and fun lost.

Out here where I leave another teacher did this with a 14 year old and then state came after HIM for child support when he was 15. Don't you love that? She is charged with statatory rape, and he gets to pay child support because the state took the child away. So the kid loses his childhood, his future, and a good part of whatever he could make with little education. Just great! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

It will be interesting to see what happens in this case.

Must go,

JL

As someone who experienced this kind of 'abuse', I feel a strong urge to jump in and reinforce how profoundly true the above statement actually is.

20 years later, and I still put quotes around the 'abuse' word...

...and yet that experience very seriously fouled my emotional development in regards to my relationships.

dewt