I suggest finding a way for her to take a few days off work, go on a little trip or just stay home, if there is contact with OM, she would most likely not be able to resist checking her email at home during that time.

It's tough though getting access to their computer at work since it's company property and some companies have strict computer usage.

FYI -- A YAHOO MESSENGER "spying tool" which does not require downloading or purchasing:

There is a way to turn on the logfile in Yahoo so you will have an ongoing transcript of everything spoken in the IMs and in the chatroom. This combined conversation record is completely independent from the individual IM logs for each friend's ID and is not notified to the user and not affected by the usual messenger archive options. The user cannot turn it off through Yahoo. Looking at the recorded transcripts can be done in a text editor such as notepad or in excel, but there is a lot of untranslatable code letters in the prefix of each line of text. I filtered these out with excel formulas, but that is not necessary once you read a few dozen lines you will know what to ignore.

To permanently turn this feature on, you have to edit the registry. This works with Yahoo Messenger Version 7 series and some previous versions.

To manually enable Yahoo! Messenger logging, create the following .reg file:

(1) Go to Start, Run, then type in "REGEDIT" to active the Windows Registry Editor. Search through the folders until you get to the folder named: "[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Yahoo\pager]"

(2) RIGHT CLICK in a blank area on the RIGHT SIDE of the screen where the individual registry entries are shown in the "PAGER" subdirectory, which will open up a drop-down menu entitled "NEW".

(3) From the drop down menu, LEFT CLICK "New DWORD value", which will create a text box.

(4) In the text box, type in the name: "Use Logfile". Then press ENTER.

(5) Left Click on the new entry name ("Use Logfile"), which will highlight it. Once it is highlighted, RIGHT CLICK on the highlighted name, which will opens a drop-down menu. Then left click on the option titled "MODIFY".

(6) Clicking "MODIFY" brings up a new menu where you can edit the value, which is initially set to a default of "0". Change this dword value to "1" (hexadecimal), then Click on "OK".

(7) Close the upper right corner of the windows explorer window to exit out of REGEDIT.

The next time you sign on YAHOO, a transcript will be saved into an ongoing record in the logfile, which is stored in the folder: PROGRAM FILES/YAHOO/MESSENGER. This file will get longer each time you sign on because it saves all chatroom conversations and all IMs from any user, plus the date and time and name of the chatroom and chatters. The logfile has the name, "ypager.log". It is a good idea to erase the file once you are done with looking at it because the next time you want to view it you will have to find where you left off, and the file keeps getting longer.

Great new idea and tool Challengeoflife.

I wanted to comment on the legalities concerned with snooping. I am an attorney but limited to the practice of tax law. I do have a learned understanding of the law and the legal process. I also have a close relative that is a prosecutor and have discussed with him this issue. However, state laws differ wildly and you should ask your own attorney about your particular situation.

In most, if not all states, it is illegal to connect or otherwise place a recording device directly onto a telephone line to record conversation YOU are not a party to. In some states it is illegal to record a phone conversation this way even if you are a party to the conversation UNLESS you disclose the presence of the recording device verbally or with continuous beeps. However, these laws do not preclude the use of a recording device in the house that you own which happens to pick up one side of a phone conversation. As far as I know, utilizing a voice recorder or nanny cam in your own home is perfectly legal (the only known exception ARGUABLY MAY be the State of Washington).

As far as putting a recorder in your spouses auto, if it's YOUR car, then probably legal but NOT if it's your spouses titled car. That would likely be an invasion of privacy.

All that being said, the name of the game is REALLY don't get caught and if you do, create and manipulate plausible deniability. For example, purchase your spying devices with Cash or Money Orders and discard or hide the receipts REALLY REALLY well. Do not put your own voice on the recording except as it picks up your conversations with your spouse. Do not talk to or address the recording device at all, ever. Be particular careful when hiding the device NOT to speak or make any indication it was YOU that hid it. I know there is a tendency to test it (i.e. "1,2, and 3") or say "I hope you catch something good today"…DON'T. Then if the recorder ever gets found you simply say "What recorder". With NO proof you hid it or bought it if your spouse calls the cops or tries to prosecute you can flip the tables on your complaining spouse and say that SHE/HE set YOU up and you know nothing about any recorder. The end result is NO prosecutor desires getting involved in a "he said" "she said" situation or going after a betrayed spouse. Prosecutors also HATE husband/wife cases cause by the time trial occurs the complaining spouse usually recants. It's all just a big waste of time. They will refer you to the family court and send the complainer home especially if YOU remain steadfast that it was not your recorder or just take the fifth and refuse to answer.

Further, your spouse MAY threaten to call the cops or prosecute you for eavesdropping but they RARELY do. They want to maintain the secrecy of their addiction/affair and only want to manipulate you to back off with the threat...going forward with the threat only interferes with the addiction AND exposes it. Not likely. So when you are threatened after getting caught snooping don't back down, say "what recorder" and invite them to call the cops. Tell them to have at it...because they won't.

As far as fighting for your marriage, your spouse KNOWS you were snooping despite the denials so what to do about from there about snooping. Without admitting the recorder was yours, ever (the wayward could now be recording you), I suggest you apologize for it but say it's a necessary thing for you to snoop to reveal the truth about your life. Your wayward spouse has clearly demonstrated his/her untrustworthiness so you need to snoop to protect yourself, your family and the wayward spouse for more lies and deciept. You'd be a fool to trust them right now and they would surely do it to you if the situation were reversed, in fact, you'd appreciate it. You could certainly give the impression that you won't do it anymore (try not to flat out lie), but I suggest you storm right out and get yourself more and easier to hide survellance devices. It's a mistake to give in the anger of the wayward spouse. Of course they are angry but deep down they understand what you are doing and know you should be spying on them their anger is only an attempt to manipulate and control you so they can continue their addiction....don't buy it.

Last caveat...if you ever get questioned by the police about snooping you CAN lie to them. You have not taken an oath in the court of law and getting in trouble for snooping on your cheating spouse is not a thing the "STATE" should be getting involved with anyway. Lie and save the taxpayers some money.

THE BEST ADVICE: DON'T GET CAUGHT (hide devices with precision, thoughtfulness and genius)

Mr. Wondering

p.s. - Usually such passive recordings are not admissible in court. This is especially the case in no fault divorce states because they are irrelevant also. However, they may be admissible to impeach the testimony of your spouse (if they flat out lie and deny the affair or indicate the hiding of assets on tape and deny such in deposition you got 'em). They may also be reviewed by parenting evaluators in the custody dispute who are not as bound by the rules of evidence

Mr. W: Great Info!

Here is a State-by-State list of the laws on recording phone converstaion.

With the prevalence of chat programs on cell phones now, I thought I'd add a little bit to try and demystify what the codes mean. Unfortunately, I can verify this only for T-Mobile, and I had to do a lot of digging and testing to confirm it, and it is specific to AIM (As far as I know).

First, there's a couple of versions of AIM for phones. One version is using the traditional text-based messaging system, where you send the IM to a pre-assigned number to deliver it to the recipient via AIM. The system appears to assign these numbers, but they also appear to remain constant for a given buddy.

The second version is the mobile software version.

For the first one, you will see (usually) 4 digit codes for the number sent to, and if it was sent from the phone it will say A O L Message in the detail bill on line. If it was received, it will simply say incoming, with a 4 digit code that equals the buddy who sent it.

For the software version, every message (that I've seen) is assigned 4690. Outgoing is listed as A O L Builtin, and incoming is simply Incoming.

I hope this helps any BS out there trying to find out what's going on (or any parents who need to monitor their kid's use of cellphones).

Now for my question. I've seen some messages (on my wife's bill, not mine) that are listed as E-Note, with a 0500 number - the entry is the same, regardless of whether it's incoming or outgoing. Anyone know what this is? T-Mobile was about as helpful as tits on a bore hog <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I'll tell you what--that Zabasearch works. I've been trying to get the OW address for a long time. I've tried other on line places and I've always hit a brick wall--this site pulled it right up for me. Thanks so much. And also thanks for the links about the recorders. Excellent!

My WH thought he was being smart by using his separate credit card on hotel room charges with OW. He didn't know my detective skills.

I requested duplicate cred card statements from his credit card company. Even though I'm not a cardholder, some customer service reps will send you copies. You just need to have your WS' SSN and mother's maiden name. Some reps can be stubborn but just tell them H is out-of-town and needs duplicates for his records. I just tell them I'm requesting copies on behalf of my H. They are pretty cooperative. You just need to make sure you intercept the mail.

Better yet, if you have access to his c/c, you can set up an online account and monitor it via Internet.

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Beatndown,

Will Spector PRo. 5.0 work on a laptop computer? My WH has a laptop. What would you suggest?

THanks

mom24

Mom24,

Spector Pro will work on any computer that meets the minimum requirements as outlined on the website. Typically if its a pentium grade computer "less than 6-7 years old" you should have no problems.

There are options to have info forwarded to web sites, or email so you will not physically have to access the laptop to gain the data. This does require and internet connection in order for the information to be sent.

Best option "If you have access to the laptop on a regular basis is to have the data saved to the actual computer it is installed on. You then type in a select group of keys to your choosing (i.e. ctrl/alt/s) to view the history (History being: screen shots, keylogger, IM, email, etc).

Hope that helps.

JKT

When you put voice activated digital recorders in car to catch conversations, does the radio set it off? He listens to the radio and CD player the whole way to and from and I don't necessarily want to listen to the radio for hours waiting for the talking.

Also, what suggestions for when he emails at work? He knows I check his email and stopped emailing her from home over 4 years ago the last time I discovered friendship and he cut off ties. Now it has become A.

Last question. He also has started deleting all calls incoming and outgoing in cell phone so I can't check. Still waiting for latest bill. I plan on asking for password to site for log. He knows I've checked this because this is how I discovered A. Any other suggestions?

Angie,

Voice activated recorder: Yes the radio sets it off. It's kind of like fishing, you may have to go thru a dozen batteries before you get something. If you are not getting any info from the normal day to day trips. You may reserve the recorder for the "abnormal trip". As for listening to the entire content of the recorder. You could skip thru it... Listen for a few seconds, skip forward a minute, etc.

Work Email: Near impossible, and/or highly illegal to tamper with a corporate owned computer.

Deleted calls: Without complete lnowledge of the phone. If the call is deleted your only option is internet usage logs, or paper log sent with the bill. Most phone companies update the internet logs a few times daily.

Thnaks for the input. I'm willing to listen to the tape to find out what I may not be told. I do have an in at the office that I'm going to check out as well.

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Thought I'd bump this up for those trying to find out for sure! This is a helpful thread!

Forgot about this one. Found this in another thread posted by WTF:

WINDOWS OUTLOOK EMAIL CLIENT. If you would like to recover previouly deleted mail. This registry hack my help you out.

Please save or make restore point to Windows before making any changes to your registry.

Here you go!

Start the Registry Editor (Regedt32.exe)

Navigate to the following key in the registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Exchange\Client\Options

On the Edit menu, click Add Value and add the following registy item:

Name: DumpsterAlwaysOn
Data Type: DWORD
Data Value: 1

exit the registry editor.

You should now have activated a new item in the tool menu. recover deleted items. It should work for all your Outlook folders.

This may qualify for 'Spying 201' since it involves some pretty advanced/involved stuff.

Here's a very interesting technique I recently came across that makes recording telephone calls very transparent and requires no external hardware (other than a second computer).

There are two major parts to this:

1) Switch your phone service to Vonage or some other VOIP provider (Packet8, Lingo, etc.). If you have cable internet or DSL then this will probably save you some big money on your phone bill; that's certainly a good explanation if you have to justify the switch. When connecting the Vonage router, find the one wire where your entire house is connected to the telco provider and plug this into your Vonage router. This way, all the phones in your house are connected to the Vonage router, just as they were all connected to the LEC (local telco provider). FYI - I'm saving around $40/month using Vonage!

2) Install 'Cain & Able', a veritable Swiss Army knife of security tools. You can get it here:

http://www.oxid.it/

Next, watch this video:

http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=videos/cainvoip1

This thing is not simple or for the faint of heart. You may want to enlist the help of a friend who knows something about computers and networks.

However, the payoff for using this thing can be huge. As mentioned before, think long and hard before deploying any recording solution; you may not want to hear what you will have access to. Practice using it before deploying for real.

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