WW has a boot password on her new laptop.

She suspected I had 'something' on her old laptop (which I did with good results).

She has the password on her new system to prevent me from gaining access to install keylogger.

Is there a way to boot from the CD (like a safe mode) in Windows Vista, install the keylogger, get out of the system and have my WW logon (with original boot password) like nothing ever happened?

I do not want her to suspect I was on her system.

Me resetting her password eould defeat the purpose of me maintaining stealth mode.

Any help would be appreciated.

My experience with boot passwords are part of the CMOS "boot process" and actually occur prior to booting from either the harddrive or CD.

It's worth a try to see if the CPU will boot from the disk.

There are certianly ways to reset the boot password if it is CMOS, but it would be evident if reset, without returning to previous state.

I really don't think there is a way around the boot password -- the system won't boot anything until you get past it.

A couple of options:

1. Most PCs (including laptops) have a jumper you can close to clear the boot password. You could clear it, check her system and then set it to something else. The next time she logs in, she would either lock the system (if there is a lockout) or have to have it reset herself. Pretty much a one-time check for you, but it does give you some plausible deniability.

2. If she uses an external keyboard with her laptop, you could insert a hardware keylogger between the two. Pretty risky with a laptop and easy to detect (unless she uses a docking station).

3. You could (very drastic) pull the harddrive and connect it to another system and read data from it then re-insert it back into her system. Depending on her OS, you might have to be running something that will read her data without any "permissions", but it's worth a shot if all else fails. You could potentially make a copy of her hard drive (or at least the important directories) in about 20 minutes. Use an external laptop harddrive enclosure hooked to your system and grab the important stuff. This would give you "offline" time to peruse the data.

More importantly.....

Have you determined what you will do if there is "information" on her system? Do you have a plan beyond simply getting the data? Maybe it's worth tipping your hand to get the info....

Good luck.

Justkeeptrying and Artor,

Thanks for your insight!

I just may reset her password to install the keylogger.

I will just have to weather her 'storm' of getting on her box outside of her view.

Then again, she should be open.

My dilemma is, she seems to be warming up slightly, but I do not know if this is due to her being able to have any contact with OM.

I will think about this today!

Thanks again!

It's a shame that we have to resort to some of the tactics listed here. But this is an EXCELLENT thread. It's definately given me some ideas...

One of our members used this PI to bust up her husbands affair: http://www.frankmusicinvestigations.net/ Ask for Frank Music.

He can do things like background checks, cell phone address look ups, retrieval of cell phone bills for some carriers, etc. His prices seemed very reasonable comparativley speaking. He does not do surveillance unless the target originates in Virginia.

ML -- THANKS!!!

I am calling him right now!!!!

ML - I am encouraged!

Just contacted your source above! He will help me.

This will hopefully be the missing link to finding the info to expose to OMW!

Thanks again!

Blue

Bluenote-

See my suggestion to you over on Brae's thread.

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Capitan, so far it is undetectable by any virus or spywares that I know of. Spector Pro is good if you have daily access to the target computer, eblaster is good if you don't and need the reports emailed to you. I would imagine there is some way to discover them, but I honestly don't know how.

Capt., SpectorPro software is the best product out to my knowledge. "It caught me, and I know my way around a computer (IT)".

It's always best to run your Spyware tool(s) after installation. If it's undetected, your set. If it's detected, you create a rule to allow the software.

I suspect it will go undetected.

Keep in mind "Any software can be detected if the person is knowledgable, and paranoid enough to really dig. But other than that, there will be no indication it's running.

As ML mentioned, If you are looking for reports while out of pocket... Eblaster will forward email and chat activity to you. If you looking to return home and review activity, go with the Spector Pro.

Does anyone out there have first-hand experience w/ Spectre Pro?

As others have responded, it's very good provided you can access the computer to view the recordings of activity. It doesn't have any noticeable impact on performance.

Is there ANY way it can be discovered?

Yes.

There is a single process that captures screen shots and keyboard activity. If you knew the name of that process you can easily spot that it has been installed. Assuming of course that you knew enough about computers to know how to look and were motivated to do so.

It stores the recordings in an obscure directory on the disk. You can change where it stores them but if you knew what you were looking for (and had sufficient privileges) it would be easy to find the files.

To view the captured screen shots you have to launch SpectorPro by typing an obscure modified keystroke. In theory a user could accidentally type this and would be prompted for a password to use it.

Here is a little something that worked for me to find the person that my WW was seeing. On Nextel phones anyway this will work not sure about the rest. A deleted number can be re-dialed by going to the Recent Calls through the main menu. Select recent calls icon, but do not open the icon just press the call button. This works as long as no other phone calls were made. Be careful you are calling the number so get the number and get out or else you are going to talk.

I’ve been told that WS will try and talk to the OP before coming home and first thing in the morning. It was in my case, then I just did a reverse phone search and there he was, name address, the works.

I’ve also used a tracker (GPS) and it worked very well. I placed it under the front seat in a car with a moon roof.

On googleearthstore.com there is a nifty super tracker stick for $269.00 which will track "anything that moves"...

Does anyone know of a way to get pin numbers to voicemail off of cell phones? My WH has changed his & I've not been around when he checked his voicemail. I suspect he is using the same pin number for his personal & work cell phone. I also suspect they are still in contact via his work cell, which has been destroyed but the number has never been deactivated. He still checks it every day.

Thanks!

I looked at the notepad on the phone to get the pin number. It has the last keys punched, even if the call has been deleted. Also, a device that plugs in to your home phone outlets will record all numbers dialed and also record any pin numbers dialed. This will work if he ever checks messages from your home phone.

I don't need it, but I'm getting one anyway.

My 16 y/o about start driving not going to think "it's cool" when I take the keys away for speeding!

I would go with the "Tracking Key" located on the same page. Only because I'm familiar with LAS (land air sea) quality, and it's cheaper <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />.

Thanks, planttel!!

I never knew about that feature. I checked it with my own phone & only my pin number showed up. I feel kinda dumb. I didn't know what notepad was for. Thanks again. I will check it tonight.

I have memberships at the local zoo, arboreutum,and museum.When a member shows their id the visit is recorded - found out the frequency of visits much more than I had been told. Also we have an IPass that automatically pays tolls on the tollways, by logging on to the state site you can get a printout of all tolls paid and locations of tollbooths.