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Daggi,

This is the simplest explanation I have for you.

1) Your husband wants to get residence for you but he is your sponsor (that's the law).

2) He is limited by the type of people he can sponsor. Within that allowable group are wife and children (that's the law).

3) Kuwaiti law does not recognize German marriage certificates (that's the law).

Therefore, he has to do the following:

a) Get your marriage certificate translated into Arabic.
b) Get the German embassy to attest the original German marriage certificate as authentic.
c) Get the Arabic translation attested as an authentic translation - usually done by the Kuwaiti Court.
d) Get both marriage certificates attested my the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
e) Get the fully attested marriage certificate sent to the Ministry of Immigration.

You would also have to get an HIV and TB test so you would have to go for blood and an X-ray. Those have to be attested by the Ministry of Health although many Gulf countries do this all under the supervision of the Ministry itself and do not allow outside clinics to conduct the tests. That is a time saver.

A good way to look at this is like importing goods. The Ministry of Immigration does not recognize the authority of the German embassy because it is, well, foreign. The only entity in Kuwait authorized to deal with the German Embassy is the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Once the MFA has endorsed any document, it is then legal in the State of Kuwait.

That is my best guess unless he is doing something truly sinister - which he would not need the German embassy for. You, being a German citizen, would be protected by the German embassy. They will not let your husband do anything harmful to you without your knowledge and assent. The MFA can do nothing with any document not properly endorsed by the German embassy.

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Thanks Traicionado <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I understand that you need a break from MB for a while, i am wishing you all the best for your marriage, will be thinking of you two.

And thanks for keeping an eye on my thread, wouldnt know whom to ask for any "kuwaiti stuff" if it werent for you. I want to thank you very much for all your help and explanations.

Wishing you all the best

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I let him get to me again...

Wh has known for about 2 weeks now that i am going back to germany, and he has even talked about a legal seperation about 1 week ago, i didnt get emotional or anything and basically agreed. Not sure if he wanted to test me...

A few days ago, he comes by... and whispers "i dont want you to go" i was caught completely off-guard, didnt expect anything like that at all. He continued to say that he dont think this with OW will work out... that she is a psychopath, etc...

I did talk to him a little bit, but i never said that i wouldnt be leaving, he then started to kiss me and we both pretty much did that for about an hour. He wanted more, but i told him i want to make love to my husband, not have sex with someone elses boyfriend. I did tell him what it would take on his part to make this marriage work... no contact in any way for life... etc... he replied with.. i didnt want to tell you any of these things, cause i didnt want you to pressure me like this again. And i told him, i am not pressuring you, i just wanted you to know what it would take, so you know if you would even be willing to try again. He said he understood. Somehow when he left, i got the impression that he was under the impression that i changed my mind about leaving.

I did hear from my sister that our old apartment in germany can be accessed by us in july after the courts are done with it, and before it gets cleaned out, we can take personal belonging out of it, just nothing that is of worth, i told WH this, and i said i hope to be make it to germany by then, so i can get some things that are dear to the kids' hearts and mine and asked him if he would like anything out of the apartment... he couldnt think of anything. I also told him that i asked my sister to call the people and ask if she could take some things out of the apartment in my name if for some reason i cant make it in time.

When he left and i asked him if he can think of anything that he wants out of the apartment, he said he didnt know, i told him, well if you can think of anything, just write it down, and he said he will and then my sister can get it. He didnt even consider that i would be going to pick up those things. This is why i think he got the impression that i am staying.

I kept my guard up pretty well when he was here at that time, and two days later he called me and said he would come by to bring money. Well he never showed up, in the past he would at least message me and say that he wasnt coming, so silly me was worried.. the next day i still hadnt heard from him... and since he referred to her as a psychopath when he was here, i was getting more and more worried.. I havent contacted him in at least a month... but yesterday evening i sent him a message asking him to pls let me know that he was alright.. of course he was... and he said i could pull out money and that he needed the money that he was going to bring by that day for a doc visit. I just replied... this wasnt about the money, i was worried about you, sorry.. its an old habit, and it will be over when i am gone... he didnt answer that message..

I cant believe i let my guard down enough to worry about him again... i cant believe i believed his words about her being a psychopath and actually worried!!! Geez i feel like a complete idiot. At least he is back at work again, i hope he keeps it up, so he will have no darn excuse in two weeks when he gets his next paycheck to not let my daughter and me fly back. If he doesnt want me to leave, then he needs to show it with actions... andi mean Huuuge actions... words cannot hold me here anymore.

Ok... done ranting and raving... guess i am just angry at myself for having let myself get to that place again, to where i cared too much for him again... i had detached so very well... stuffed all the emotions away into some dusty old attic in my heart, and i let the door to that attic open up a bit again... time to close it again. I do feel much better already, and the door is closed.. i need to lock it... and once i am in germany... throw away the key.

Hope i will have my mindset in a couple days again, that i had before he came a few days ago. Luckily the door wasnt open that wide, so it shouldnt take long to get to that place again. Grrrr... i am just mad at myself for letting myself go there again.. this is exactly the reason why i HAVE to go... i hate having to depend on him for the money for it... i really do believe that is why he brought me here, so he has control and i cant slip away and he can continue this, without loosing me. Geez..

Heck, i thought about it... i mean he said he dont think this with OW is going to work out.. yet he went home to her..(after she messaged him bout 4 times when he was here... and finally she called.. he told her "i love you too" and i told him, to at least show me that much respect as to not say it around me, he said he couldnt have left the room - he was naked at the time, he did want something but didnt get it - and i just said, well it wouldnt have killed her not to hear it for once) so if he is staying with her, even thought he doesnt think it will work... what does that say about me ... that means he would have to be sure that it wouldnt work at all between us... at least thats what normal thinking people would see. Too bad i thought about that too late..lol.

detach.. detach... detach... going.. going.. gone... it sucks being stuck here, depending on him like this!!!!!!

~takes a deep breath~ think i am done now

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