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No "written" agreement yet. Waiting for lawyer to have it in hand. WW was on her way back to her office to send an email to her attorney to let him know, and he'll forward to my attorney who will call me and tell me it's ok to go in the house.

No hearings for the divorce petition, both attorneys believe that this "mediation" approach is best for both of us.

No response to my petition yet. Both attorney's agreed to not create any more documentation pending our "mediation" approach.

Facilitator did not push 50/50. We're not at the parenting plan stage yet, but WW sure did!

We really did focus on communicating with DD. Help me figure out how to answer the question I get all the time "Daddy, why doesn't mommy love you as much as you love her?"

Geez that's a tough one. Suggested that we start a weekly "family talk" and give her something to do, so she looks forward to it. Etc.


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See how using the facilitator (or any third party) can get your WW to agree to something so reasonable but that she was adamamently opposed to just 16 hours ago. Point being, it is absolutely unnecessary and unproductive for you to discuss anything with her regarding the legal affairs with her alone. Trying to "educate" her about affairs and the such is equally pointless.

So what to do? Stick to the Do's and Don't list I posted many days ago and we'll figure out a plan.

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Got it!


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It feels so, incredibly un-natural being in my own home. No where is safe, I just imagine he's been every where. Little signs everywhere...Coke in the fridge (me and WW only drink one type of soda), beer bottles in the trash, beer lids in cup holders, candles burned really low.

I had a hard time eating dinner it felt so wierd being in my own home. This isn't fair that I have to feel like this in my home.


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Good Father,

((((hugs!)))) to you.

I know how that feels, but you know, just toss it all out, in your alone times at the house, and if you aren't looking at it, it gets a bit easier.

Your home has been violated, but you just 'clean house' and the sooner the better. You can just tell WW that you had some excess energy and felt like cleaning, which is true LOL!!! It will make you feel better!

You are back in the house <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />!!!!!YES!!!! Make it your family's home once more.

Step back, don't react, and think what is healthiest for you, family, and marriage before you do anything. Plan A, right? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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Well here's another example of WW's manipulation.

Ex-gf called this morning to ask me about almost breaking WW's arm, and bruising her all up. Of course this didn't happen so I ask her for more details.

Apparently OM told ex-gf that he saw the bruises. WW has been trying to figure out all week how I found out about OM being here. They suspect that it's ex-gf that told me, but can't confirm it.

So this is thier "plot". OM tells ex-gf that he saw bruises. He tells NO ONE ELSE, and he does it over the phone or in person, so there is no email that I might possibly read.

When I confront WW in an emotional rage about her lying about me, they know that it had to have been ex-gf that told me, becuase no one else ever heard about the "bruises".

Man she's crafty.


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Man she's crafty.

But you are smarter now...look how easily you read right through their evil scheme...just keep it to yourself knowing that "loose lips sink ships"...Good For You-I'm proud of ya! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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Problem is, now ex-gf doesn't want to help anymore. So I've lost my one good source of information about WW's lies.


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Good bet GF.

So you and ex-GF are just going to keep everything quiet. Like I said, all legal crap ONLY in front of legal representatives, including allegations of abuse. A simple that's not true will suffice. It means NOTHING outside of court and the cops.

Mr. W

*It's also likely a play to keep x-GF from calling you. OM was trying to send the message that if she did talk to you she would only be contributing to the abuse. In fact, this may be more likely (and it's been seen here often). You see, most likley OM and WW are much more concerned about FUTURE information passing between you two than what has already been told. Either way. Doesn't need to be acknowledged (though hopefully ex-gf believes you are not an abuser and will continue to assist you - tell her to "ask for proof and documentation, come on friend exactly who's word is more trustworthy OM or Me"?


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Not to cause undue concern, but your WW could be setting the next set of pieces in play to get you out of the house again - this time with allegations of physical abuse....Just a thought - pass on xGF's information to your attorney.

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BB...agreed, sent it to my attorney before posting here!


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GF...

Keep your eyes open as BB told you...

I think that OM's xgf is getting played here...hey, your WW may not even be a part of it, OM may just be trying to keep his xgf and your WW on the line...ask the xgf why your WW dropped the PO and the court allowed you back into the house if you were really physically abusive...

What a bunch of tangled C R A P!

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Mrs. W. I doubt OM is behind it. This has my WW written all over it.

The only reason OM wants anything to do with ex-gf is because for some reason this sicko is attached to ex-gf's daughter (she's not his kid).

But I'm sure he's willing to give up that attachment to keep things going with my wife. Besides, he knows that we have a DD, so he can just become attached to her when I'm out of the picture.

That's a good question too, about dropping the PO.


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The only reason OM wants anything to do with ex-gf is because for some reason this sicko is attached to ex-gf's daughter (she's not his kid).

But I'm sure he's willing to give up that attachment to keep things going with my wife. Besides, he knows that we have a DD, so he can just become attached to her when I'm out of the picture.

This scares the bejeebers outta me. He's got my mom-dar (mother radar) going off something fierce.

Have you had a background check run on him? You know his name and dob?


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No I haven't. I don't know his birthday, but could probably find out.

A background check would be really good!


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Yeah it would.

Look at it as protecting your daughter. If something does show up, all the more reason for him NEVER to be around her.

I dunno, to me it sounds like he likes gals with young girls and that just sets my hackles to risin....it might not be true, but your baby is not worth the risk imo.

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This scares the bejeebers outta me. He's got my mom-dar (mother radar) going off something fierce.

Have you had a background check run on him? You know his name and dob?

I am right there with you - there is something just not right about this guy. Maybe I am a bit jaded at the ripe old age of 45, but I can't think of anyone - anyone - who is special enough that I would travel cross-country just for a romp in the hay. (Okay, if he had oodles and oodles and oodles of money and foot the bill for it, I might consider it, but I don't recall that being the case with this OM). For gosh sake, he is in VA - you can't tell me there isn't someone age appropriate, who is single, no-kids, in that area for him to boink. With the large number of kiddy perverts out there these days, I would want to know this guys entire history, all the way down to the name of the girl/boy he sat next to in first grade, before I let my son or daughter around him.

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GF, didn't you say WW is flying back to VA for OM's birthday the first week of May? Maybe that information will be close enough for a background check. It's a good task for a PI to be put to work on.

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Well he knew ex-gf long before she had a child.

I think he just bonds with kids because he's at the same mentality level. hehehe

But I really would love to get a background check done on him.

I'm going to look into it.


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So I've lost my one good source of information about WW's lies.

No you haven't.

Every time you see her lips move - assume it's a lie.

Any good beer left in the fridge? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Here's a true portion of my story that I'm reminded of - just to give you a distraction.

(During my XW's affair) I came home from one night out of town and went to the fridge to get a beer. I knew I had an unopened 12 pack in there and a frosted mug in the freezer.

No mug. Dern, where'd that go?

12 pack opened, two bottles gone. (My wife didn't drink beer, my son was only 11.)

Hmmmmmmmmmm. I knew that OM had moved out and was living in a nearby Econolodge. Could she have? Naaaaawwwww. She wouldn't take two of my beers and MY FTOSTED MUG to OM in the Econolodge, would she?

"Honey? Did you drink two beers?"

"no. <au pair> must have." (We had a really sweet Norweigian girl as an au pair - she didn't drink beer either.)

Unbelievable! The ONLY explanation was that not only did she take two of my beers, she took MY FROSTED MUG to OM in the Enonolodge!!!!! Sheese, how low can you go???

Me: Honey, did you take two beers and MY FROSTED MUG to OM in the Econolodge??

WS: (increduously) NO!! When will you QUIT with your suspicions?????!!!!!

(Here comes the real unbelievable part. Keep in mind that both OM and my wife ADAMANTLY were denying an affair. OM's family lived only four houses away on my street.)

A couple days later, OM moved home - thought the suspicion of an affair had blown over.

A knock at the door, my wife goes to answer it. It's OM's W holding MY FROSTED MUG (unfrosted, of course). "Here, OM brought this back from the Econolodge, give it to WAT, please." (I didn't see any of this, OMW tells me later what happened. She recognized MY FROSTED MUG! Can you believe it? OM was sooooooo stooooopid he brought MY FROSTED MUG back to his house and didn't even TRY to hide it?? - all the while denying an affair?????)

I find MY FROSTED MUG in the freezer a couple hours later.

Me: Hey, where'd THIS come from?

WS: Oh, OMW brought it - you left it at their house.

Dorks

WAT

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