Pep,
I am sitting here smiling because I know I am about to get stretched. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
I am also sitting here smiling because I know that this differing opinion will get discussed, eschewed, and considerd by both of us and there won't be any name calling. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />
[color:"red"]I am pretty sure a few have been lost in their recoveries for a time because of it [/color]
wow
Yeah. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Didn't like the way that sounded after I re-read it. Want to be clear ... I don't think you have wrecked any recoveries. I think sometimes you may scare people off for a time. Then again, they may need it, and I also firmly believe you help in the end.
and for you to say I have more (for whatever reason) is not kosher according to TEMPEST
Well, if we need to stop this line of discussion. We will, of course. I am a little intrigued with the possibilities.
[color:"red"] But you have no responsibility?
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I have equal responsibility as any other poster
not more
not less
Well. If I were to bring a lawsuit against MB because my marriage was wrecked and I did something that "Pep said..." There legal defense would be basically off the splash page were they say that this is an open forum, and they don't necessarily condone what is right, yada, yada, yada, ...
And they would be absolutely correct. You have no true legally binding responsibility for what you say.
I still disagree, ethically.
When a group of teens, walking down a public street, is carousing and carrying on, loud and boisterous, and choosing to use foul language and sexually explicit phrases and subject matter ...
... if no one is around to hear, it is unfortunate. And not universally so.
... if adults are around to hear, they probably comment "what's up with kids these days?" But the presence of the audience "changes" the ethics.
... if a group of elemntary school kids are there, too. Well, it suddenly becomes disappointing.
Legally, it still OK. (And let's assume there are no city ordinanced to that effect. I'VE never seen on enforced.)
So why do we feel it is "more wrong" around the children?
An implied responsibility to lead the youth be example. It isn't written anywhere. It is sort of implied.
As an officer in the army, I had explicit responsibility, even when not on duty, or in front of my own troops. Same can be said for a plant manager, preacher, etc. But there is an implied level of it as well. (MHO) Isn't there?
I mean, if I am wrong, 'nuff said. But I certain "feel" it more, it "bothers" me when the teens curse and swear in front of the young'uns. WHY does it bother me? And I am not alone.
Is this not the same?
I don't understand the ramifications of all this either. I mean, if it IS true, what should you do?
If you asked me, I would say "just be aware of it" but that is kind of nebulous, isn't it? And I am sure you are aware of what you write, you don't strike me as a willy-nilly kind of a person.
But no responsibility? Legally - yes. Ethically, probably, but maybe not. That's where I am not sure. I mean, there are people on the board whose advice is more heavily considered. We may not want to admit it, or say it, but I'd bet money it's true. And that is not to say that others DON'T give good advice. But there are a few posters who get a lot of (deserved) "gee thanks a millions."
You're one of them. I am actually surprised by your response. I would have expected (or probably liked to have heard) "Yeah. It can be a pain in the butt and I didn't ask for it, but I'll watch it."
C'mon Pep. You have to know that your impact is on the upper end of the bell curve. "We are all equal" is a nice sentiment, and possibly something to strive for. There is a big difference between that and the statement "none of us is better than any other." Reality is - we are NOT all equal.
We can agree to disagree, but to me, there are some who have to be more careful because they have a bigger impact.
