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I have received very sound advice from people on the forum -and had to accept some harsh realities of the situation I find myself. I am so glad I found this site very early on - and some of my initial troubles and experiences have been assisted by others who have been there and done that. I live in the UK - and there is nothing as good as this site available to us brits!


Me (BS) 46 - moved in December 2004 to be with WH - no real support network to call on WH 44 - moved to new job in June 2004 - 200 miles from home OW 43 - Head of HR in same workplace - but met soulmate so it does not matter about work issues D Day May 2005 - Plan A (with OWH in Plan A too)until December 2005. Plan B - did OK until lapse at end of Oct 2006. WH and I met in 1983, friends until 1989 when started our relationship - moved in together in 1992, and married in 2001.
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This type of dynamic can occur in an ongoing counseling relationship, too. There are individuals who use their counseling session as a way to "dump" just enough emotional garbage to take the edge off. Kind of like a pressure cooker. You let out a little steam, and things settle down for awhile. But, of course the pressure builds up again. Nothing has really changed in the conditions causing the pressure build-up.

The client becomes uncomfortable again, shows up for their counseling session and dumps just enough to ease the pressure once again. I call them a "Pi#% and Moan" session. There's little motivation to push onward and take the difficult steps required in making significant changes.

We all have our own pace for healing. We come with a similar concern, but can bring many different items to the table depending on our upbringing, exposure to trauma, abuse, etc. Our problem solving, coping styles can have an impact. For example, the day is very hot and there's a beautiful swimming pool available at the clubhouse. I could just go jump right in and take what comes as far as temperature, comfort, etc. My sons and exH would do that. Not me!

I'm a stick my toe into the cold water and enter it gradually when I go swimming. I have to try it out a few steps at a time. Maybe back off. Then try again, going a little further the next time. Or I may chose to leave the darn pool and say "Swimming in a cold pool...no matter how hot the day....is just not worth the discomfort it causes."

I think it can be a thin line between respecting others' timing related to change vs. enabling others to dump and run. We don't always know everything that someone brings with them to the MB forum. What looks "right" or "correct" or the best path for me may not be the healthiest action for someone else....at least not at that particular time.

I can offer my opinion, feeling, belief, etc., but I don't make the final decision for anyone as to whether or not it's helpful. We are all adults here. This is an open, public forum. It invites all types of people and their styles to participate. It's up to me to decide whether or not it's a helpful forum for me. Or, to decide that some people may be helpful, but I'll block others who seem ignorant or abusive in nature. It's up to me to decide if I want to continue to give feedback to someone who seems to exhibit little interest in making change.

As a physician LM can tell someone what's medically wrong based on his personal and professional knowledge and experience. He can't, however, control how the individual responds, anymore than we on this forum can. Denial? Anger? Fear? Panic? Relief? Jumps right into making a plan. Puts it off. etc. etc. Does he continue to see the patient who doesn't follow his advice? Does the patient physician "hop" until they find one who agrees with them?
That's up to the individual to decide.

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Not going anywhere...just venting a bit....just my own issues...noone elses.

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I had the right to remain silent.......but I didn't have the ability.
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Guilty as charged.

I think sometimes this website is very cathartic(sp). I never drop a thread but I can tell you sometimes just getting it out makes me feel better.

I believe that even though there are a lot of similarties the advice we give goes sideways because of the FWS reaction. We can advise to do something a certain way but if FWS objects or goes in a direction not discussed we are right back here trying to figure it out again. Now if I could sit here with an IM and all of you it would probably be easier.

Ok I did what you said and she said this what now. Ok that didn't work what else can I try? Still not working I am getting ready to LB in a serious way help what now? You could be right there helping me through all the garbage.

I can't tell you how many times my FWW fed me a line that I somewhat believed until I came back and realized thats what they all say.

So I will keep coming and asking and hopefully you will all be here to help me.


BS 38
FWW 35
D Day 10/03
Recovery started 11/06
3 boys 12, 8 and a new baby


When life hands you lemons make lemonade then try to find the person life hands vodka and have a party.
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