and I feel I had "less" to confess than you do.

less? How can 2 dates be "less"...of anything?

And just so you know, I am SURE that your fear of confessing to your H was no more powerful than ANY other person on the board that was afraid to confess.

At the risk of raising angst again, I will say that you must not have took him at his word, or you would have NEVER gone on those 2 dates either. Fear wasn't guiding you when you were making those decisions...why should your fear of confessing be any greater than that?

TJ over

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Oh...I thought you went for coffee one time...and then out for drinks another time. That's where I got the "2" dates. But you are right...1 or 2...doesn't matter...semantics

I believe the correct grammar is "taken" not "took" in that context BTW.

HEY!...my son does this too...when he is feeling behind the eightball. lol

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Not "behind the eight ball" (an expression not used here but I know what it means.) I bet your son doesn't say it in the icy voice I say it in though. Bad grammar offends me, it always has. Perfectly in control and very happy on a sunny (for a very welcome change) Saturday morning.

Not that I have to justify myself to you but by "less" I meant content of conversation and end outcome.

... "cheating lite"

We are doing SO GOOD now.

And you've told Rob OM will always have a pull on you, that you're bored in your M, that you have issues committing youreself fully to Rob and you're doing good, or you've stuffed it and are doing good ? Which one Jen ?

Seeing the OM for what he really is and was has lifted the scales from my eyes, probably for the first time.

Jen you said many times before you were over OM, couldn;t see what the attraction was. What's different this time ?

All blessings. I care.

... less calories

... less withdrawl

... avoids the guilty conscious

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I bet your son doesn't say it in the icy voice I say it in though.

You're right...he has better manners than to correct someone like that.

You must spend ALL day in idiotville correcting
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Sorry Jen, but I said this type thing once here after making an email contact with OM...I said that NOW I saw his true colors...I believe it was Pep that said to me, "What about YOUR true colors?"...Seems you are missing the point here...OM DON'T MEAN SQUAT!!! IT AIN'T ABOUT HIM!!! (improper grammar used to emphasize my South'ren CHARM!!! *curtsy* <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />) I didn't get by with that crap here, and neither can you...nor should you want to...

Mrs. W

I surrender.

Over and out.

Jen, this man propositioned Rob's wife, touched Rob's wife with inappropriate intimacy, stuck his pen!s into Rob's wife and ejaculated, encouraged Rob's wife to lie to Rob...and Rob's wife sees that Rob has been disrespected only when Rob is called 'whatsisname'?

What was Rob's wife doing to enforce respect for Rob during all that?

And does Rob's wife object to Rob being referred to without respect because she now does want to enforce respect for Rob, or because she senses that disrespect for Rob implies contempt for Rob's wife?

It's a short step from calling Rob 'whatsisname', to calling Rob's wife 'whatsername'. Isn't it?

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Well, alrighty then...I'm puckering up for this

Ok Folks, we have an ALL CLEAR, Horn's been blown...Fog's gone...Move along, nothing to see here...

Jen be honest with yourself at least...

Suzet, my appologies for the threadjack...

Mrs. W

Oh shoot now I've been forced to say something again.

What part of I'M BEING HONEST WITH MYSELF FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THREE YEARS do none of you get.

TA, the last physical contact with the OM was in late 2002. I was a different person in the throes of an A then. Of course the physical A was totally disrespectful to Rob. I'm talking about NOW.

Now I'm really going.

LOL...Oh I knew that would get you...Perhaps it will also get you to think...I wish you nothing but the best...

Mrs. W

I said earlier that I was intrigued by the title of this thread. This is why. I have never forgotten that post. This is also why I said I no longer believe in recovery (BK hammered me for that BTW). It is just that it seems to me that every single one of these so call recovered marriages is great until OM drives by, sends a letter or email and WW is back into the A in a heartbeat.

I don't want to go through this again. I have read post after post from those FWW's that now just ring so hollow. It is not OM that draws them back - I am convinced of that. It is the A that holds all the excitement. The A itself is the big draw.

Now for all you offended FWW's who say "but I am recovered". Let's get back to the analogy that WS's are like alcoholics. There is no such thing as a former alcoholic. Either the analogy is false or the FWS's are deluding themselves. RWW is more appropriate, I think.

Stanley is pretty smart. He also reads too much TOW but hs is still smart. That post removed the scales from my eyes as well.

I never hammered you for saying you don't believe in recovery Pio. I was just sad for you. You will know it when you are hammered (and I have hammered you but not for that!)