Mrs W..That is so creepy about your H because I had a similar experience.

Now it would make a GREAT story to say that it happened on the night he was having sex with OW..but honestly I'm not sure if it was that night or the next or the one before..you know what I mean?

Anyway..I was in bed..almost asleep..and out of the blue I was OVERWHELMED with a sense of dread and oppression.

That is part of the reason that I suggest investing in educating yourself about spiritual warfare.

I don't think they were ONLY after him..I think they were gunning for me too.

Specifically fear FOR him. He was away in flight school at the time and I was actually worried his plane may have crashed or something.

I was laying in bed praying my heart out and it was HOURS before the oppression lessened.

It makes me very uncomfortable to disclose that sort of experience..I am uncomfortable with the supernatural in general..if anything pops into MY living room and starts glowing a la touched by an angel..I am SOOO out of there.

Nothing but a Noodle shaped hole in the wall and a puff of smoke.

How do I include various quotes on my reply?

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Reverse babble, with all the sweetness e-mail words can muster - I expect a divorce will be as easy and painless for you as you leaving has been for me.

However, since I made Christian vows, I will not "assist" you in the murder of those vows. You're on your own.

Then let him wonder what that means... You're scared and hurt? Then let the divorce scare him and hurt him - natural consequences and he's created such an immense karmic debt, life should have no problem serving up the pain.

Oh, I like that response, KA!

R2W--
Wanted to share something with you. I ahev approached my sitch from day one as this being a spiritual battle. I was on the floor in my kitchen crying and the phone rang. Wh had just walked out the day before, and I had told no one. My dear friend calls and I tell her. She tells me this is a spiritual battle. How true.
I should preface this by saying that my marriage is not recovered. I tried, though, and still believe at the heart of this is sin--light vs. dark. Which is why to this day i am able to pray for WH (my stbxh) and not hate him for what he has done to our family.

What I wanted to share with you along the lines of spiritual warfare is two things:
1--While this is a spiritual battle, your WH is making his own choices to sin and walk away from the truth. We choose to either follow God or not to. I say this because you should not shoulder any of the blame here.
2--In the OT, the first tribe sent out in battle was the tribe of Judah--the tribe of worship. I cannot tell you the peace I found that night on the kitchen floor as I put on a praise cd and sang out and cried out to God. Worship is a powerful weapon for you.

You are fighting for yourself here too, and your marriage. But ultimately, it will be your WH who as to choose to leave the "darkness" he is living in and seek the "light" --truth.

I also wanted to share a story about dreams. I never before until I was reading this post equated it with spiritual warfare, but now it is making sense. I always felt the Lord had given me that dream, but in this context, i see it better.

It was a school day morning and WH was about to leave. i was sleeping on the couch and had just woken up crying my eyes out because of this dream I had had--in the dream my H was having an affair with a girl named kelly. I told my H about the dream, and all color suddenly left him. He scoffed it off and left, but I couldn't shake this uneasy feeling. I spent the next few hours searching the computer files, and found e-mails--from ...guess who...a girl named kelly. That is how I found out about the first A my H was having with OW #1. That had to come from God. I had never heard of the girl named Kelly before that dream.

Okay, don't know if I helped here or not, but I wanted you to know I am thinking of you as well, and wanted to remind you to seek Him in worship during this time--as it is the first weapon in battle.

Intexas

On the topic of dreams and spiritual warfare, this reminds me of a dream I had at the end of 2005 of my WH and unidentified OW. The only thing I remember about the dream was WH holding hands with this mystery OW in front of me and telling me he did not want to be with me any longer. The OW didn't have a face, or at least anything that I remember. I recall how devastated I felt when I awoke from the dream. Luckily, I looked next to me and saw my angelic H, fast asleep next to me. After that, I tried to rid the memory of that dream from my mind. I remember reminding myself that it was just A DREAM and to forget about it because it would NEVER HAPPEN to me.

I never told my WH about this dream. I realize now how it might have been the beginnings of this A that was stirring in my WH's mind.

Wow, I can't believe it. So sad. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

I have been immersing myself with praise CDs since March. They've saved me from insanity. The CDs have created a more peaceful environment for me and I listen to them wherever I go. I find myself singing at the top of my lungs in the car- it's so uplifting. Worship is indeed a powerful weapon. I remember sharing one of my favorite songs with WH in the car in April and he agreed with the lyrics...yet, he continued to choose sin.

It's his choice not mine. He has chosen the path of darkness, turning his back on his W and those that care about him. Just last week, WH has rejected our "last" Christian friend that was still meeting with him. With the exclusion of this friend, WH is left with no one but his enabling family and workplace infidels.

Thank you, Mrs. W, for including me on your prayer list. I am so grateful, really!

I will be rebuking Satan verbally. I had never done so but I now know how important it is. I bought a book on spiritual warfare today called "The Invisible War." I'll begin it tonight.

A person from corporate office's HR called me yesterday and said she'd like to talk to me. She is going to out-of-town this week but left me her cell phone number. I don't know if I need to call her this week or wait until next week. What do you think?

BTW, I checked our joint bank account today and WH wrote a check to the Superior Court on 6/23 (Friday) to pay for the filing charges. He is serious about the serving of the D papers. Sigh. What a mess he's created! I'm getting nervous...Prayers, prayers, prayers.

I went to the courthouse today and our case was filed on 6/23/06. It was surreal seeing our names in the computer as WH v. BS with a case number. My stomach sank. WH filed four days after I exposed A to his boss. I can't believe it. I walked out of the courthouse with a mix of emotions, anger and sadness. Once again, I kept asking myself how my WH could do this to me???

Also, there is nothing in the rules that state a third party must serve the papers. WH is just being a chicken. He couldn't even use the "d" word in the e-mails he sent me on Monday. I had to ask him specifically in the e-mails whether he meant D. It was then that he acknowledged it. A grown man is scared of D yet files for it. Unbelievable.

It is retaliatory..when he acted..he did it in fantasy mode.

That is why he couldn't even say the word.

He was angry, he wanted to give you the hardest knock he could think of with no appreciation of the consequences.

Let me share with you a moment.

Last week we filed a complaint at the laundry mat where we do our laundry.

We have three children and a dog so we have a lot of laundry..several months ago we decided that it was worth the expense to send it out rather than do it ourselves.

So..as usual we drop it off..but there is someone new.

She forgot about our laundry completely.

It wasn't ready until days later.

I called and spoke with the manager telling them that this was not acceptable..I had paid in good faith..the deadline wasn't met and I expected to be compensated or they would lose my business.

They apologised..reprimanded the woman responsible..and gave us the next go round free.

I was satisfied with this. End of story right?

Nope..we had an early morning visit from DHS who said that an employee from the laundry mat had called citing CHILD ABUSE and stating that they had a video to prove it.

So..DHS rep interviewed us..had a lookyloo around the house and said he didn't see anything suggestive of abuse but would call after seeing the tape.

He called back the next morning saying that he had viewed the tape and didn't know WHAT the person who had made the complaint was thinking..that there was NOTHING abusive whatsoever and he was sorry for the upset.

This woman was reprimanded at work and she was angry about it..so she unleashed a potentially lifelong firestorm in our lives in retaliation.

Do you think that she sat and thought of the long term consequences?

No.

Did she consider how an investigation such as this would affect our standing in the community? How it may affect future employment? Etc..?

No.

All she was thinking about was getting the most bang for her revenge buck.

I think it is much the same for your H. He is acting without thinking..like a drunk man at the wheel.

Imagine his shock when he is forced to see the bodies of people he has slain under his tires. In order for him to do this he will have to sober up.

Some people never do..but they are the saddest of all..the most lost..the walking damned.

Noodle,

What a story with the laundry mat. Wow. Craziness.

Yup, I agree with your analogy. My WH doesn't see the consequences of his actions at all. About the drunk man part, WH started drinking when this A started. When we were dating and married, he never drank because I don't drink. My tolerance is close to zero. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Since he gave into the evil ways of his co-workers, he's been drinking frequently. I was a good influence on him for a long time but somehow things went sour.

Yep..little update there for your edification.

After the report having been ruled unfounded I contacted the social worker on the case and discussed the details.

It turns out that there were several statements made [and in writing on the report] that were indisputably ..provably false due to the video footage.

I asked would he be willing to testify and disclose if I were to press charges. He said absolutely.

Soooo..I contacted an attorney and plan to press both civil and criminal charges.

I also plan to have my attorney send the head office a certified letter regarding the behavior of their employee and demanding her immediate termination if they ever want my business again.

I'm also having the charges printed in the local newspaper.

You can't just stand there and allow people to use the system like this..as their own personal revenge tool.

You have to take a stand..and react appropriately.

As much as I would have liked to have met her in the parking lot and beat her with a shovel..that doesn't really move the ball foreward.

Neither do threats..forewarned is forearmed.

The first notice she will have of this is the consequences hitting her square in the chest.

Armed to the teeth and no mercy. That is how you deal with this sort of thing.

Don't allow these trashy individuals to make you their victim.