You gotta chum sometimes EAv...to see who the sharks REALLY ARE...kinda like a wolf in sheep's clothing honey.

and they are real. and they are here. and they do not work for the common good here. They do not practice MB. They are about destruction simple and plain.

Thanks for repeating your post, MEDC...but I do math and one name is missing...or I'm missing it.

LA

I can't explain the extra row... I can't access my original list... I may have repeated someone for effect??? It wasn't you though, that I know.

EAV1967...hope you don't mind I am putting this in here as it seems to fit this thread too!!!!!!!!!!

MEDC,

I think the last one on the list was IWRA's psuedoname (er....summerskye) that she used today to go after Melody Lane (edited - it was Pepperband she went after though Summerskye/IWRA immediately edited out the jab). We are guessing she had to use her other name since Mrs. W kept asking IWRA to please point us to exactly where she exposed her on-line affair to her husband. Her silence on the issue reinforces my/our belief that she's still foggy. Certainly explains a lot of her "greyness". IN MY OPINION, it is tough to know and post about right and wrong when you're still living a lie. I wish she'd come around like her likely former friend 2Bnormal. I still have hope for IWRA....just believe she needs to get her life in order before posting to and about others.

As far as the attack on the board I think it is merely a ruse to create inner turmoil. If we are fighting them (and each other) we can't help others. They keep changing names as they modify their practiced skills at causing chaos. It's disheartening to post when others are questioning your integrity, individualness, faith and honesty. I just try to carry on best I can.

In essence, I say we should all beware the posters with no meaningful reliable backstory whatsoever. It's tough to advise on MB principles if you were not here trying to use them or didn't have them properly and successfully used on you.

Mr. Wondering

okay with me!

Eave...I am proud of you today

You seemed to have taken a stand

right vs wrong

your beliefs

That must feel good

Mr. Wondering

Thanks, MEDC! I was questioning my math...and other things in me.

<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

LA

mrwondering

i didn't even know you knew who i was!

thanks for noticing

I know you Eave...i've just never been anywhere close to your situation. I have nothing relevant to add to your thread as I am inexperienced in Plan B. I rarely if ever advise anyone in Plan B. Plus, the majority of the threads I stick to are BH's and newbies.

I admire your perseverence and sincerely hope you are rewarded for it someday. I would have given up long before you have. I have stayed away from your threads for months now as my opinions would have likely been negative to you so I abstained for reasons I am unsure. To be certain, I am not negative of you...I was just not big on your plan. However, I have no authority from which to declare your maintainance of hope as mistaken. I guess what I'm saying is...for some reason I was not directed to ever post to you that you should be hopeless. That says a lot to me cause I have said it to others.

The Eave I recall reading months ago would have never expressed herself so adamantly today against CS and adulterous marriages...I am happy to see you making individual progress.

I pray God answers your prayers...whatever that answer may be.

Mr. Wondering

Wow mkeverydaycnt, your hostility and vindictiveness towards me is shocking and you don’t seem to have any end do you? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> Your behavior towards me on these boards is disgusting and sickening… <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> And now you have proceeded on with your "personal vendetta" against me by “including” my name on a list publicly and advise new members on these boards to NOT seek out my help & advice… <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> just because YOU don’t agree and/or have understanding for my personal situation...

Please keep in mind that the fact that I can’t follow the MB principles 100% in my situation at this stage (quitting my job and informing OMW) are due to personal circumstances and DOESN’T mean that I don’t agree and/or support the MB principles and can’t be of help to new members or any others.

Further, I haven’t in all my years on these boards EVER posted advice to someone which was in conflict with MB principles or contradicted it, IN SPITE of my own situation which I agree is not good at all… And if you (or anyone else) can find ONE post of mine where I’ve posted advice which were in conflict with the MB principles or contradicted it in ANY way…I will take my words back, disappear from these boards permanently and leave you all who believe I’m a threat for these boards and new members, in peace... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Suzet*, I love you.


NOW

Thanks NOW…

Suzet*, even if I thought you were wrong, which I don't....I really don't KNOW if you are or not, concerning your situation...I cannot dismiss the light you gave to me when things were very dark. It would not render the truth you showed me invalid. One thing I've learned over the years is that we cannot put God in a box. Life isn't as neat and tidy and black and white as we'd like it to be sometimes. What I believe is, that if you've prayed about this and believe this is the decision God led you to make, then you are doing the right thing. I, for one, trust that if it is not the right decision, somehow, someway, God will make it known to you....not in a loud and accusing voice, nor a condemming one. It will be that still, small voice.

NOW

Thanks for your compassion and understanding NOW...you don't know how much I appreciate it...and how much I need it right now... Thanks from the bottom of my heart.

Much love,
Suzet

Thanks for being human Suzet.

You should be the poster child of good people making bad decisions.

How we "right" our wrong...is how we are truly measured. I know you'll stand strong against the storm.

Thanks betrayedinjersey…

There is something I want to share with you:

The following is my favorite poem. It's actually a reflection on how I view myself and my shortcomings:

WHEN I SAY I'M A CHRISTIAN

When I say, "I am a Christian,
"I'm not shouting "I am saved"
I'm whispering, "I get lost"
That is why I chose this way.

When I say, "I am a Christian,"
I don't speak of this with pride.
I'm confessing that I stumble
And need someone to be my guide.

When I say, "I am a Christian,"
I'm not trying to be strong.
I'm professing that I am weak
And pray for strength to carry on.

When I say, "I am a Christian,"
I'm not bragging of success.
I'm admitting I have failed and
Cannot ever pay the debt.

When I say, "I am a Christian,"
I'm not claiming to be perfect.
My flaws are too visible
but God believes I'm worth it.

When I say, "I am a Christian,"
I still feel the sting of pain.
I have my share of heartaches
which is why I seek HIS name.

When I say, "I am a Christian,"
I do not wish to judge.
I have no authority I only know
That I'm loved.

I was a little surprised to see Suzet's name mentioned in this category of MB-bashers. Last I had checked, Suzet was one of the more thoroughly educated MBers around these parts. I haven't been around here for quite a while, but there seems to be a lot more polarization and anger here. At one point, MB was used mainly as a support system to help marriages through use of the Harley principles. When a "shark" showed up, nicely worded, thoroughly though-out, illustrative messages were used incorporating MB principals to weed these folks out (or to help the ones that seemed "sharky", but were really out looking for help).

Like everyone else that was on my ignore list... Suzet... you have been removed. As mentioned on BopP's goodbye thread... it is time to fight for the hill and not surrender it.
Suzet... you asked me to be understanding of your plight. Did I write something inaccurate in anyway? I don't believe I did. All I wrote about you was that I did not agree with your stance for not telling your A partners W... I said I don't agree that there is any reason for doing this. I know you have your reasoning... I just don't agree with it.
Many here do not and they feel that if a new person reads your history they too could come up with their own legitimate (in their eyes) reason for not telling the OMW. And Suzet... what makes your situation all that special... any different from anyone elses? Just about every FWS that comes on here could come up with a reason for not telling the people they have hurt what they have done... be it their own BS or the other family they have helped harm. Your situation is not unique nor does it invlove "special" circumstances.
So, if I said something wrong... correct me... i am okay with that... but use my post and show me what was incorrect in terms of you.

K, the reason mkeverydaycnt decided to put my name on the list, <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> is the direct result of the following threads I’ve posted approximately 1 and a half month ago about my specific situation:

Back in withdrawal - contact has been broken

POJA versus exposure