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OWL Note I've backed off on these forums lately...tired of trying to help others...tired of 'defending others' when no one else seems to give a rat's behind how someone is treated when they come here...whatever. *blink*blink* wow the lone ranger of caring do you care how I was treated by the imposter? Pep
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Owl, I hope you use this incident as a learning opportunity and realize that when your goals match those of someone whose purposes were NEFARIOUS there is probably something WRONG with your goals. This might be a CLUE that you need to reexamine your own agenda.
IWRA wanted to shut ppl up and make them say nice words about pernicous, nasty things in order to ENABLE her own bad behavior and PRO-AFFAIR agenda. And that is exactly what silencing critics did and SHE KNEW IT.
The only one here who did not know it was *YOU*, my friend.
YOU helped her in that effort; you ENABLED HER. You were a useful idiot in a long term fraud perpetuated on this board that served to support her anti-MB, anti-MelodyLane, PRO-AFFAIR agenda.
Using nice words to describe not-so-nice things is not a virtue, "wise" Owl, it is DYSFUNCTIONAL. IT IS SICK. It only serves to ENABLE wrongdoing, as you can see with your own eyes.
I honestly hope you CAN SEE, lest you be used like this again. I will leave you with this simple but profound saying: EVIL THRIVES WHEN GOOD MEN STAND SILENT.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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I have a confession 2 make...
...my real name isn't 2long!
-ol' 2long
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izzzzzz eeet 2short?
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What is your personal take home message about all of this? A reminder that we don't know the whole truth about ANYONE's situation here. Just what they decide to tell us. Heck...same thing I told my wife when she was all set to go live with OM whom she'd never met in person. That she didn't know him...she only knew what he'd let her see of him. Anyone can come on this site (or any site) and lie. As I tell my kids..."This is what we call a learning experience.".
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Again Mel...we'll agree to disagree.
I don't feel any need to use anything other than "nice words".
You feel otherwise.
Hence we're not going to agree.
Will I learn from this? Surely.
Does the fact that she was a troll change the fact that how we talk to each other matters as much as what we say?
No.
'Nuff said...we'll not agree, and no point in rehashing that again.
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OWL
FYI
YOU are NOT the only person who cares how people are treated on MB
Why did YOU say something so rude and so mean?
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Using nice words to describe not-so-nice things is not a virtue, "wise" Owl, it is DYSFUNCTIONAL. IT IS SICK. It only serves to ENABLE wrongdoing, as you can see with your own eyes. ML... You are my friggin hero... and I don't care that you are a Texan! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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[color:"blue"]EVIL THRIVES WHEN GOOD MEN STAND SILENT [/color]
I so LOVE that saying!
Although, I tweeked it a bit:
[color:"purple"]EVIL THRIVES WHEN GOOD MEN DO NOTHING [/color]
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Note I've backed off on these forums lately...tired of trying to help others...tired of 'defending others' when no one else seems to give a rat's behind how someone is treated when they come here...whatever. Actually, your view here is well, rude. You think that because someone has the cajones to call clearly wrong behavior by its rightful and earned name that they don't care. Except for trolls and their enablers... people are on here because they do care. You would do well to learn that fact.
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Edited to this...
I'm not going to get sucked into the same tired old fight again.
Everyone here has seen the same arguments over and over. For a change, I won't be the one to keep them going.
Last edited by Owl; 08/14/06 10:40 AM.
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Again Mel...we'll agree to disagree.
I don't feel any need to use anything other than "nice words".
You feel otherwise. There is something very warped with a value system that asserts that the words used to describe bad behavior are somehow worse than the BEHAVIOR. You seem to be completely OBLIVIOUS to bad behavior and only see the WORDS used to describe it as the crime. That is WARPED. That is the mental illness of political correctness, my friend. And you won't find many signatories to that twisted little policy.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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Last thought.
It would be wrong if I AGREED with someone's "doing not so nice things". THAT would be enabling it. Yes, you did enable IWRA, for a long time. Your agenda was the SAME as hers, and sadly, you are here defending it. Her goal was to shut up the critics, just as is yours. You were her useful idiot, her enabler. But, from the sounds of it, you have learned nothing from this lesson.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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I am now convinced that Owl would welcome Bin Laden as his house guest if he were to promise to say some kind words...<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />
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I am now convinced that Owl would welcome Bin Laden as his house guest if he were to promise to say some kind words... See..now it's comments like that that I just love. Don't mind the fact I've spent 15 years active duty...don't mind the fact that I'm a combat vet having defended this country, so that statement is so offensive to me as to make me want to puke. The difference here is this...I don't support ATTACKING THE PERSON. For the final time...there's a huge difference between telling someone that they're doing something wrong, and attacking them and calling them vile things for doing somethig wrong. Simple enough in my eyes at least.
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Don't mind the fact I've spent 15 years active duty...don't mind the fact that I'm a combat vet having defended this country, so that statement is so offensive to me as to make me want to puke. And your enabling and coddling of certain types is equally offensive oto others.
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Meh..an attack is an attack is an attack.
I'm sick of the debate also Owl.
Some people attack with "nice" words some use more colorfull ones but they are both an attack...just different tactics.
There are precious few posters who I can honestly say I have NEVER seen attack another poster and you aren't one of them so if we are really going to agree to disagree then I vote let's get on with it already.
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[ For the final time...there's a huge difference between telling someone that they're doing something wrong, and attacking them and calling them vile things for doing somethig wrong. No, you don't know the difference apparently. You have carried water for someone with a PRO-AFFAIR agenda by condemning ANY criticism of sleazy behavior. You ignore the bad behavior but condemn the WORDS used to describe it. So, no, you don't know the difference. Just the fact that you have the SAME AGENDA as a cruel, PRO-AFFAIR troller such as sarie should tell you there is something very WRONG with your stance.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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Oh Folks,
Can't we just let things drop??? This thread has been a downer enough without everyone arguing about who shoulda, woulda, coulda done something different.
I realize there are a lot of ruffled feathers here, but they won't get properly positioned for flight, if the ruffling continues. Isn't it time everyone got back to the tasks at hand?
God Bless,
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I am new to site, but let me see if I am getting this correct...there was somebody on here posing as various people??
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