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If I were the one running late, yes, I would not hesitate to call him and let him know...

I didn't say that nams did anything wrong. But recall that she was in fact also running late, <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />.

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My bad AGG, I'm sorry B2M & AGG. I forgot NAM was late too. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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Immovingon, I didn't say Nams should have phoned him <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
(although I (probably) would <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />)


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That can translate into not wanting to make plans that may tie him down.

Not so good sign, right?

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Yes, I had his cell number.

I asked you only beacuse of this:
I think I'm not going to give my cell phone number before I meet 'him', but would have his; if he is the one I'd never again like to meet with (e.g. he's 'not normal', 'dangerous'... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" />), he has no my phone # and therefore, unwanted calls are avoided?
I know that I would never accept he doesn't give me his HOME phone number; for me it's too fishy (hiding a wife or live-in gf or anything else).

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I didn't want to call him for a couple of reasons. One, what if I'd been stood up?

What's so wrong with being stood up by a man who doesn't know you at all??
It'd be his loss, wouldn't it?

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Calling would seem like I was chasing him down. No thank you.

I'd rather know if I'm stood up or he thinks I'm chasing him down Vs. waiting, waiting (uh) or going home not knowing. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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Two, I think it was his obligation to call me since he was the one running late. Had I been late, rarely am but let's just suppose, I would have phoned him

I agree, if he were late.

Maybe he came early, before you, saw you weren't there 'sharp', and left thinking he'd been stood up?
Then pretended he was late.
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(How old is he?)

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I say perhaps another time. He then apologizes & says he should have called. He askes again for me to come to restaurant after all I'm in town. No, I say not tonight. He says well, I apologized why not show some compassion. Again I say no, maybe another time, he's says no, let's not.

I mean, (strong) vanity, another not so good sign...


Btw, I'm much much happier person since I got rid of my vanity
(the most of it, that is <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />).


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I was late, fashionably so as GG pointed out. I did consider calling but when I say % five minutes late I was probably just sitting down to wait for him at five minutes. Still late is late & I could have called. I'm usually right on time if not a minute or two early.

As it turned out I learned about him from the situation & he is someone I don't want to be involved with. Maybe he feels the same about me & my lack of "compassion".

I'm in the process of planning a date for Sunday afternoon with a man I am looking forward to meeting. Unlike the late guy who was more of a, sure why not.


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I'm in the process of planning a date for Sunday afternoon with a man I am looking forward to meeting. Unlike the late guy who was more of a, sure why not.

Ah, now THAT is a much better sounding attitude about a date!! Have fun, nams! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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I'm in the process of planning a date for Sunday afternoon with a man I am looking forward to meeting. Unlike the late guy who was more of a, sure why not.

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Have a fun and take care!


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Tonight's date showed up on time so things were off to agood start.

He was easy to talk to, completely present while talking with me, & he called his son a cutie pie which I thought was sweet. I'd like to see him again & he said he'd like to see me again. He'll be leaving for Italy for 10 days on Thurs. so I may not see him until after he returns. We'll see, I'm sure he'll be busy getting ready. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />


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Sounds positive so far! Keep us posted.
I love romance stories!!

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Yay! Glad it went well. Definitely keep us posted. How long are you corresponding with these potential dates before you decide to meet them? I may try the online thing again in a month or two, myself.


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Well, when I first started the online thing I'd want to correspond for a few weeks before meeting. Now I want to hurry the meeting along to within a couple of weeks. I found I could develop an online "relationship" but in person things could be completely different.

Now I like to think of online dating services as introduction sites VS a place to "get to know" someone.

This guy was about two weeks. We sent some emails then went to the phone. He's seems sweet, not hyper & he shaves his head which I MUCH prefer to a comb over. Actually, a comb over just might be a deal breaker. IMO when a man shaves his head it shows a certain confidence which has a lot of appeal.


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Yeah! A date! Just enjoy it and don't read too much into anything.


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I'm partial to shaved heads. My brother shaves his. He'd be hot if he weren't my brother.

Sooo, let us know as soon as he calls. Especially if he calls from Italy. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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In agreement, shaved over comb over any day!

Actually, I don't mind shaved[balding] men, or gray.
I think they look pretty nice!

Happy for you nams!

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Interesting that we all like shaved heads. I even like bald, and I'd certainly rather have that than gray.


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Gray is fine with me.

I didn't mention this about my date the other night because I wanted to think about it before posting. He doesn't want to marry again, he doesn't see the need if children aren't planned for. I don't know how I feel about this because I'm pretty sure I want to remarry.

If I date him just because I like him & we had fun does that delay my meeting someone who may want marriage?


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He doesn't want to marry again, he doesn't see the need if children aren't planned for. I don't know how I feel about this because I'm pretty sure I want to remarry.

Mayday, mayda... ahhh, er, note to self - "self, shut up and let someone like GG, Lexxxy, or Anna chime in on this one"... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />.

Has he ever been married before, BTW?

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I thought I'd get a response from you AGG & I was pretty sure it would be in the...RUN...frame of mind.

I don't know how I feel. First it feels premature to think about remarriage when we don't even have a relationship. OTOH why move forward in a direction that looks like a dead end?

Is it reasonable to move forward knowing the limitations & enjoy it for what it may be, time spent with an interesting, kind man?

Or if by doing that & effectively taking myself "off the market" do I just waste time.

All of this may not matter because we may find we don't want to continue seeing each other after a few dates.

I know for the spouse hunter this would be a bad move. But unexpected things can happen when two people find they love each other.

Gawd, he'd surely run the other way screaming if he read any of this.


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My friend's mom has been dating someone for 25 years. They keep seperate houses, but do everything else together, vacation, party, etc. The children call each other stepsisters and stepbrothers, get invited to all family events, and each adult is considered a grandparent to the other person's grandchildren. They are really great together and I could actually see this model work for me.
Who's to say there aren't other means to consider. Sometimes it is best for the kids, or for monetary reasons.

As a church member, I believe in marriage. As a divorcee, the thought of going through the legal hassle ever again is frightening.

Don't just too far ahead. Enjoy where you are.


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I don't know how I feel. First it feels premature to think about remarriage when we don't even have a relationship. OTOH why move forward in a direction that looks like a dead end?

The problem with this is that it is rationalizing to some extent. It is what we all do so well - we see problems but we say "hey, I hardly know the person, everything else looks great, why throw out the baby with the bathwater, the future is uncertain"...

Then, before you know it, we develop feelings, a relationship is formed, and you have a year under your belt - and the "problem" now comes to a head. Like I said, look at GG's, Lexxxy's, and Anna's examples. I am not going to speak for them, but I think it is how they ended up where they did.

Of course, that is also how I ended up where I did with G - ignoring "small things" while pursuing a relaitonship, only to cause massive heartaches for those very small things.

Anyway, I am not saying "RUN", I am just saying don't rationalize this away, and really think about what you want longterm. It is much less painful to not start a relationship than to end one, though I know that sometimes after being alone for a while, "something" may seem better than "nothing". Just be careful, nams <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />.

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