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Maybe you should just go over there and tell her she's coming home and that's that! Bodily remove her, flatten out OM, and leave. Call the press first, get them there for the news, get publicity, get a book deal with movie deal to follow....

Just trying to cheer you up.

Yeah, kind of a Seven Brides for Seven Brothers thing. Just throw her over your shoulder and take her home.

Oh, but do flatten out POSOM.

I am up for a trip to San Diego!


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LOL Chrisner. Can see SD driving over in his 4WD announcing "I'm here to git my woman!" It's worth a try SD. Nothing else has worked so far. What have you got to lose?

Don't know about you Chrisner, but I'm in the Midwest and this below 60 degress stuff just sucks. I'm up for a trip to San Diego too. Hey SD, aren't you near there? We can come help you. I'll drive the getaway truck.


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12/25/06 - Dday - WH promised NC. Plan A in effect. Thought we were in recovery.

6-3-07 - Dday#2 Found out NC never took place and A never ended. Found MB NC promised again, but WH would not write NC letter.

9/07 - Dday #3. Still lying and sneaking around. Plan B implemented
WH wants nothing to do with me

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Are you out there SD. I just got home from Bball and had a wonderful (gag) frozen dinner.

A slab-o-fish w/ mac&cheese.

How are you tonight?

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Sounds delicious.

I'm okay. Went to IC today. Maybe that will satisfy my need to rehash and analyze What Happened.

I'm wonder why I'm exhausted. I'm exhausted because I did something incredibly emotionally draining yesterday. Could/should I have done it differently? Maybe. I did what I did because I am who I am. If it costs me down the road, I can live with that.

That f#@%ing gerbil should be thankful I didn't use dynamite.

How was the game? Your guys still over-achieving?

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Dinner, for me, last night was a lovely Nathan's HOt dog on potato roll with lotsa mustard (I was too lazy to dice onions). I was exhausted from the four hours that I was out and about, so cooking was totally out of the question. Work is going to be interesting next week...

SD, I have no comments on your interactions with SCQ. You lunged at the gerbil, and the gerbil was DRUGGED, and didn't budge. I don't think you'll be paying way down the road for this, really. SCQ will, for she is losing you, but you are only losing a shell of the woman you used to know, really.

I say, instead of dynamite, grab some hot sauce and blue cheese dressing, cook 'er up, and have buffaloed gerbil. Too soon? Probably. Sorry.


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Hey, Guy Smiley

Glad to hear there were no losses at mediation. That's a small victory, right?

What I find interesting about your interaction with SCQ is that she did not defend POSOM. She asked you what he was lying about - she doesn't trust him, sdguy, believe it.

She didn't defend him and she didn't spew anger at you for suggesting that he lies.

I'm not going to say whether you should have or shouldn't have. Who am I to say?

She didn't give you the reaction you wanted (what did you want, BTW) but she didn't plunge a dagger into you either.

Another small victory, take them when you can.

Take care, sdguy.

Fox

p.s. Seems crazy that we still love them, doesn't it? Seeing WH at DD13's basketball game last week made me realize how easy it would be for me to slip right back into what we used to be. I also realize how dangerous that would be for me and DDs. Just interesting......that we still feel so much after all this time and all the hurt. Makes you wonder what makes one person capable or willing to forgive and someone else so unwilling or incapable.

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What I find interesting about your interaction with SCQ is that she did not defend POSOM. She asked you what he was lying about - she doesn't trust him, sdguy, believe it.

She didn't defend him and she didn't spew anger at you for suggesting that he lies.

It's why I'm not convinced it was necessarily a bad thing.

"You've been talking to OMW again?"

"You got that from OMW, right? She's nuts. She'll say anything."

"Don't you get it? It's not about me and him. You and I are through."

"Jeez, get over it already and move on with your life."

are all things she just as easily could have said. That she listened and seemed interested in what I had to say was actually *better* than I would have expected.

I didn't have a plan. I really wanted to know whether or not she knew about the soup and the lunch--I wanted to confirm what I thought I knew (information gathering). I didn't think through what would happen if I asked that question. Then, as I admitted to BR, I immediately fell down the slippery slope and tried to control the situation again.

Speaking of BR, if there any of you out there reading this and shaking your heads but have too much compassion to swing a 2x4 at me, rest assured that I have been thrashed via email by a professional.

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I gotta say that I miss BR immensely. She gave me so much to think about, especially in terms of dropping the victim status, and taking the reigns in my own life.


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Speaking of BR, if there any of you out there reading this and shaking your heads but have too much compassion to swing a 2x4 at me, rest assured that I have been thrashed via email by a professional.


I have no doubt. Must be nice to have all the answers and know exactly what someone SHOULDA done and then point it out offline so as not to be challenged.

Nevermind......sore spot for me.

You're human, you love the SCQ, it IS a slippery slope. I, for one, don't think less of you if you slip. You catch yourself, so I don't think you ought to be 2x4ed for it. You knew when you did it that it was a risk, you decided to take that risk and you deal with the consequences. It's life.

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I invited the commentary from BR, so it's not like it was a hit and run. She was spot-on with most if not all of her analysis, so if it sounds like I'm complaining about it, I'm not.

Well, maybe a little. I said to her once "Don't I EVER get to be right?"

But, of course, it's not about being right.

Going to sneak out for a walk on the beach with a friend.

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But, of course, it's not about being right.


Sometimes it IS about being right. It's about what is right for your family, your children, you, and for SCQ.

Why are you in this battle, sdguy?

To do what is RIGHT for all of you.

If you always accept being WRONG, even when you don't believe you are, will SCQ admire you? I don't think so.

You are standing for what you believe to be right. THAT is admirable.

I think there are times where you can be RIGHT and MARRIED.

SCQ admitted to herself that you may be right about POSOM. How do I know? She asked you what you knew - she took it in and did not defend. Why? Because deep down, she still trusts what you have to say. Especially if you didn't say it in anger or in a manipulative way....if she thought you brought it up because you care for her well being.......

JMHO,
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Keep breathing....it isn't over yet.

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SD,

Hey Guy! I don't have any great sage advice, any real commentary, no tips on how to avoid the face-plant after a big gerbil lunge, nor even a 2 x 4.

I *do* understand,,,and the best I have to offer are my prayers and hugs. {{{{{SG}}}}

Hope you were able to de-stress on the beach!


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I'm doing pretty well. The trigger was all-consuming for a couple of days, but I'm better now and feeling really good. Maybe a little bit too hopeful, but not so much that I'm going to anything stupid.

Thanks for dropping by, and don't be a stranger, Bugs!

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A bunch of us got Bug Bombed today!


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A bunch of us got Bug Bombed today!


Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the Bug! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the Bug!

ROFLMAO - I'm gonna steal that quote!


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ROFLMAO - I'm gonna steal that quote!


I'd love to take credit, but I really can't. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

There's a country song that Mary Chapin Carpenter sings:

Well it's a strange old game you learn it slow
One step forward and it's back you go
You're standing on the throttle
You're standing on the brake
In the groove 'til you make a mistake

Sometimes you're the windshield
Sometimes you're the bug
Sometimes it all comes together baby
Sometimes you're just a fool in love
Sometimes you're the Louisville Slugger
Sometimes you're the ball
Sometimes it all comes together
Sometimes you're gonna lose it all

You gotta know happy - you gotta know glad
Because you're gonna know lonely
And you're gonna know sad
When you're rippin' and you're ridin'
And you're coming on strong
You start slippin' and slidin'
And it all goes wrong because

Sometimes you're the windshield
Sometimes you're the bug
Sometimes it all comes together baby
Sometimes you're just a fool in love
Sometimes you're the Louisville Slugger
Sometimes you're the ball
Sometimes it all comes together
Sometimes you're gonna lose it all

One day you got the glory and then you got none
One day you're a diamond and then you're a stone
Everything can change in the blink of an eye
So let the good times roll before we say goodbye because

Sometimes you're the windshield
Sometimes you're the bug
Sometimes it all comes together baby
Sometimes you're just a fool in love
Sometimes you're the Louisville Slugger
Sometimes you're the ball
Sometimes it all comes together
Sometimes you're gonna lose it all

Sometimes you're the windshield
Sometimes you're the bug
Sometimes it all comes together baby
Sometimes you're just a fool in love

Sometimes you're the windshield
Sometimes you're the bug
Sometimes it all comes together baby
Sometimes you're just a fool in love


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Gee, and I thought it was a Mark Knopfler song. Wonder who wrote it.

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How u b, Guy Smiley?

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Indeed.


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