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Here are the lyrics to the song I was talking about Does Anybody Hear Her:

She is running
A hundred miles an hour in the wrong direction
She is trying
But the canyon's ever widening
In the depths of her cold heart
So she sets out on another misadventure just to find
She's another two years older
And she's three more steps behind

Does anybody hear her? Can anybody see?
Or does anybody even knows she's going down today
Under the shadow of our steeple
With all the lost and lonely people
Searching for the hope that's tucked away in you and me
Does anybody hear her? Can anybody see?

She is yearning
For shelter and affection
That she never found at home
She is searching
For a hero to ride in
To ride in and save the day
And in walks her prince charming
And he knows just what to say
Momentary lapse of reason
And she gives herself away

If judgement looms under every steeple
If lofty glances from lofty people
Can't see past her scarlet letter
And we never even met her


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Music speaks more vividly to hypersensitive souls. It's one favorable by-product of all this crap. I renewed my love for music. Enjoy it!

You still sound grounded, and that is good.

SD


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Same ole Same ole. Just trying to make it.

One thing that is kinda odd is I was cleaning out a closet this morning and I found my WW engagement ring. THe ring had been lost for about 2 yrs. She thought she lost it when we had went to a concert together because she had put it in her pocket because her hands was swelling. Hope that is a sign but I know I have a long way to go.

I'm praying you'll get the chance one day to slip that ring back on her finger and watch her cry w/ gratitude that you gave her another chance.

I can see how that song would affect you the way it does.

Music can reach in and touch you like nothing else can.

How did you do on your house cleaning? DD's room painting?

How did your contact go w/ WW?

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I'm praying you'll get the chance one day to slip that ring back on her finger and watch her cry w/ gratitude that you gave her another chance

I can see how that song would affect you the way it does.

Music can reach in and touch you like nothing else can.

How did you do on your house cleaning? DD's room painting?

How did your contact go w/ WW?

~ Marsh

I hope to put it back also. The song is touching to me. House cleaning went OK,Got Kitchen, LR and all bathrooms clean, clothes and dishes washed and that about it.

OK on to contact with WW today.I went to pick DD up at WW work(beauty shop) and when I walked in no one knew me. Then they was like HEY. They all looked at me like who is this guy. DD came running to me then they said wow we didn't recognize you. WW was on phone and I walked up to her and showed her the ring(also had my wedding ring on that I haven't wore in a long time because I can't wear them at work).Her mouth dropped and she said where did you find that? I was cleaning out closets and I found it. Which one she said and I told her. I made sure she saw it and my ring on my hand. I made it look like I had moved on and turned and told DD lets go. WW said hold on I need to talk to you. She said DD had been very good this week with her and for me not to do anything that would change that. I said I know because I have been talking to her and I am past all that anyway. SHe looked at how I was dressed and then looked away. I was fixed up nicely and new colonge on(Kinda heavily so she would smell it). She then looked back at the women working in the shop and all was looking at me. I smiled and told DD to come on, and then left. Smiling and laughing the entire time.

Now I don't think it went anywhere but just maybe.

DD told me they went to friends house on Tues. and watched AI and he came over there. DD fussed at WW and said WW rolled eyes. Tuesday was the day I told her all the stuff SH had said. I don't know if she will ever see the light but I know she saw me turn heads today. That was great. Well I am going to take DD shopping be back later tonight.

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Then they was like HEY. They all looked at me like who is this guy. DD came running to me then they said wow we didn't recognize you.


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I LOVE THIS!!! I can SO picture this!!!

And I can JUST imagine what they must have said after you left. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

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Her mouth dropped and she said where did you find that?


Did you keep it? Or give it to her?

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. I made it look like I had moved on and turned and told DD lets go.


SWEET!

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I said I know because I have been talking to her and I am past all that anyway.


WAY TO GO!!!!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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SHe looked at how I was dressed and then looked away. I was fixed up nicely and new colonge on(Kinda heavily so she would smell it).


Oh yeah!!! She noticed! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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She then looked back at the women working in the shop and all was looking at me.


LOVE IT!!!!

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Smiling and laughing the entire time.

I'm doing some of that right now too! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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DD told me they went to friends house on Tues. and watched AI and he came over there.


When you say, "he" you mean, OM, right?

Get a hold of that lawyer THIS WEEK! You've got to put a stop to this.

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Well done! Women are pretty keen to smells, and I bet you left some lingering thoughts in her head. Keep up the good work and keep the calm!

SD


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Thanks I am feeling pretty good about what happened today. I don't know if I did any good because I haven't heard from her as of yet(she hasn't Called DD), but I am just planting seeds right now. I figure she is with him because she has to be with him or else she would be lonely and have needs that are not being met. She never calls when she is with him. Doesn't matter I feel good and God will take care of the rest.

BTW one thing I forgot to mention was when WW and I were talking today, when she finished talking and turned to walk away I leaned up to her ear and said "you looking good today". Probably shouldn't have said that but I couldn't help it. It came out before I realized it. She didn't comment. Anyway I am going to watch a movie with DD and I will check here later tonight.

SD I hope I left some lingering thoughts. I hope she is thinking about them when she is with him.

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When you say, "he" you mean, OM, right?
Yes the OM.


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pHB... If you want to see how much you have progressed, go back and read your thread from start to finish. See how you have grown. See how much you have learned. See how you are taking negatives and turning them into positives.

You have reached the stage where you can really start to make a difference. You have the knowledge and the will to prevail. I am very impressed and proud of how you have turned things around in the past couple of weeks.

I just wanted to tell you that...
SD


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pHB, I cried the first time I heard that song you mentioned by Casting Crowns. Oh, boy does it ever hit close to home for me.

Another one they sing that gives me strength is "Who Am I?"

Who am I?
That the Lord of all the earth,
Would care to know my name,
Would care to feel my hurt.
Who am I?
That the bright and morning star,
Would choose to light the way,
For my ever wandering heart

Not because of who I am,
But because of what you've done.
Not because of what I've done,
But because of who you are.

I am a flower quickly fading,
Here today and gone tomorrow,
A wave tossed in the ocean,
A vapor in the wind.
Still you hear me when I'm calling,
Lord, you catch me when I'm falling,
And you've told me who I am.
I am yours.
I am yours.

Who am I?
That the eyes that see my sin
Would look on me with love
And watch me rise again.
Who am I?
That the voice that calmed the sea,
Would call out through the rain,
And calm the storm in me.

I am Yours
Whom shall I fear
Whom shall I fear
'Cause I am Yours
I am Yours


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pHB,

I know it seems like not much progress, but two things:

1. You are growing as a person. If you don't end up with your wife, you will be so much stronger when someone else comes along. If it does work out (praying for you) with your wife then she will have a mans man to love the rest of her life. How many men would go thru this for their wife?

2. Your wife did notice you when you stopped to pick up your DD. It won't be mentioned for a long time though.

Keep it up


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It might just be mentioned for while in the shop though. "Wow Hot!" <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Can you dig it????


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Thanks for all the encouraging words from everyone. It does help me when others tell me how I am progressing. I know you can't see me or the things I am doing but know that I am telling the truth. I am trying as hard as I can right now to fend off evil spirits that are telling me to move on. It seems that everytime I turn around another girl catches my eye. I know I don't need tthat right now because I am to vunerable. Just keep praying for me and WW.

Also the pastor preached today on praying for those who offend you or do you harm. He said you would be amazed at what God can do if you just pray for them. Now I believe that the Lord was tell me to pray for OM. I will do this but I will struggle for a while.

All in all I am doing fairly well right now. I just have my times where I miss my family and WW. All this is showing me how much I should appreciate them when God heals this marriage and family. It makes it even harder when DD wants all of us back together.

I am going to eat and then I will check back in later. Thanks again


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Here if you need something...so you know...

Sustain...you are doing just fine!

SD


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Headed back to work, but I just wanted to say how wonderful you're doing HB. That scene was so great! I could picture it in my head too. Although you don't want to give in to temptation, it does boost the ego a bit when you do turn heads! I remember feeling that way too. Only b/c your world gets rocked so upside down & your confidence gets shot during this whole mess. When other guys started looking my direction, I couldn't help but think that my H was turning his head as well. Believe me, your W took notice & she's making mental notes, just not ready to tell you that yet.

Anyway, got to go, but keep up the good work. You sound so much better.


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I guess she will keep running to OM. She is so far gone from everyone that cares about her, it will take a miracle to turn her around. She is determined to end this marriage. I haven't talked to her today but I have heard from others that she wants out in the worst way. She is telling them she is so happy and feels loved for the 1st time in 15 yrs. That hurts. Plus my DD makes it though for me because she wants her mom away from the OM and back home. I asked her if she talks to her mom about that and she says no. She said her mom don't listen to her so she just doesn't talk about it. I told her not to worry about it anymore and just pray and lean on God to help us thru this.

Praying for the OM is harder than I imagined it would be. Just can't bring myself to pray for GOd to bless him yet. I have asked God to help me with it. Praying for WW is easy. Gonna go watch some FB c ya later


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Pray that God blesses him with a restoration of his sense of right and wrong, to the degree that he turns from sin, that his conscience would be pricked, and that his spiritual life would be healed (because healing his life means your ww is no longer in it.

"Please Father - turn this man from evil back to Thee - that he would seek repentence - all of the repentence process - thorough and complete, from recognition of his sins, to the desire to do all in his power to restore those he has harmed - so that his heart would be made whole from the wounds of his recent sins."


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Pray that God blesses him with a restoration of his sense of right and wrong, to the degree that he turns from sin, that his conscience would be pricked, and that his spiritual life would be healed (because healing his life means your ww is no longer in it.

"Please Father - turn this man from evil back to Thee - that he would seek repentence - all of the repentence process - thorough and complete, from recognition of his sins, to the desire to do all in his power to restore those he has harmed - so that his heart would be made whole from the wounds of his recent sins."

UNBELEIVEABLE I just can't thanks God enough. I was on my to take DD to her GM's and we said our prayers. I prayed that God show me how to pray for OM and I get back and check this and here is a prayer. God knew I needed help with this and used KaylaAndy to send me what I needed. Thanks KaylaAndy for this. God just used you to help me. WOW I stand amazed. Words can't describe how I feel right now.


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The harder she tries to convince everyone else is an indication that she is having a hard time convincing herself. She needs to reassure herself regularly by saying it out loud to anyone that will listen. Standard wayward fare.

Further...who are these people repeating this stuff to you. Perhaps they are painting it disfavorably because they don't want to see you get hurt. Also, wife NEEDS to convince friends and family to keep the future fantasy of everyone ending up happy and getting along in the end. I wish these people would stand taller against her.

Just keep on keeping on.

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You might have guessed I have prayed for an enemy or two in my lifetime.

I pray that they will receive the greatest of all gifts - the Love of God and a love for God - knowing that in order to do so, they must set their hearts right - and trusting that His Love, His Holy Atonement covers my heart and my wounds that the OW caused - to be healed as well in that forgiveness process.


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pHB,



I will be gone for 2-3 days and won't have a puter so don't think I left you. Nothing big on my end, just spending a little family time together.

You better have your DD room painted by the time I get back!!

Keep up the good work. You are doing better than you think.


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