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At least I did bring it here instead of acting upon it. This is my place to vent, get advise and be kept on track. Even when my mind wanders, I can come here and wander no more.


Yes, that's what we're here for. You did the right thing by telling us.

Now, you've got to make a list of possible things to say or ask WW when you speak to her.

Does she like jokes? I know lots of pretty good ones.

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Does she like jokes? I know lots of pretty good ones.

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She part blonde so she don't always get the jokes and it kinda took the fun out of them.

I am doing pretty good today. I have prayed since I woke up because satan is all over me. Its my fault because I am letting it happen. I guess I will just fight it. Maybe it's a test.


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Going to the gym again. Seems thats all I ever do anymore. Work, Pray, Gym, Pray some more, sleep and play with DD. What a life!


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You are forgetting GROWING as a person. You have come a long way - take a look at post # uno.

What a person you are today!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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I went back and read post # 1 and I feel that the sitch is worse now than it was. I mean she is treating his kids as her own and him as a HB not me. I am sitting back in Plan A and getting nowhere or at least it seems that way. What do i know. For all I know she is still fence riding and I am not aware of it. It seems as if she has jumped off the fence onto OM's side. Guess I will keep hopeing and praying.


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I'm not talking talking about your sith. I'm talking about you, how you have grown.

Here is something from your 1st post:

"I don't know and looking for help because I am so CONFUSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "

You are not so confused now a days. You know what is going on and how to handle it as it comes. For the most part anyway. You roll with the fog talk, you can see how to read your wife and you are a better father now.

All of this is part of the path back for you and then for your wife.

Here is a tit bit someone once told me; If you wife wanted nothing to do with you ever again she would have left, gone along ways away and never would speak to you agian.


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Hmm ????

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I'm not talking talking about your sith. I'm talking about you, how you have grown.

Here is something from your 1st post:

"I don't know and looking for help because I am so CONFUSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "

You are not so confused now a days. You know what is going on and how to handle it as it comes. For the most part anyway. You roll with the fog talk, you can see how to read your wife and you are a better father now.

All of this is part of the path back for you and then for your wife.

Here is a tit bit someone once told me; If you wife wanted nothing to do with you ever again she would have left, gone along ways away and never would speak to you agian.



Ok I will give you that. I am not as confused anymore. Is it due to understanding or is it due to giving up and not trying to understand anymore. I agree I am working on myself more. But what I really want seems far gone.


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Hmm ????

Small voice ~Marsh

Did ~Marsh tell you that quote.

My WW has stated that she would move out of the county. She is running away from everyone except fools who think she deserves to be happy. I think that too but with her husband who has done everything imaginable to make her happy.


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She part blonde so she don't always get the jokes and it kinda took the fun out of them.


Think she might get this one?


Two blondes living in Texas were sitting on a bench

One evening, looking at the moon and talking.
One blonde says to the other, "Which do you think is farther away...... Canada or the moon"?
The other blonde rolls her eyes, turns and says,
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Ok I will give you that. I am not as confused anymore. Is it due to understanding or is it due to giving up and not trying to understand anymore. I agree I am working on myself more. But what I really want seems far gone.


You ARE making changes in YOU and that's part of what Plan A is about.

But, the other part is trying to meet your WW's needs....which means you have to figure out how you can engage her in conversation when you speak to her.

I was thinking about that mirror she wants...are you dead set on keeping it? Maybe it would be a good idea to let her have it...surprise her w/ it. Maybe bring it to her when she's at work.

PHB, have you gotten a hold of that laywer yet? You really need to work on keeping OM away from DD. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

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You ARE making changes in YOU and that's part of what Plan A is about.

I just wish it would start rotating the other way. Me improving and her following

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But, the other part is trying to meet your WW's needs....which means you have to figure out how you can engage her in conversation when you speak to her.
Been thinking about that trying to figure out a way to talk without talking about negatives. Anytime WW talks with me it is usually negative and I don't want to talk about that stuff.

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I was thinking about that mirror she wants...are you dead set on keeping it? Maybe it would be a good idea to let her have it...surprise her w/ it. Maybe bring it to her when she's at work.

This mirror is huge so taking it to her work would not be an option. If I keep giving to her my house will be empty, I have already given pix, lamps and other stuff.

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PHB, have you gotten a hold of that laywer yet? You really need to work on keeping OM away from DD. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />
I have an appt set up to talk to her about that and filing the paperwork against OM.


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Been thinking about that trying to figure out a way to talk without talking about negatives. Anytime WW talks with me it is usually negative and I don't want to talk about that stuff.


Well, what did you two talk about before the A? Ask her questions about her...her job, her health, her family, her friends, her hobbies, her interests. Just a small question may be enough to have her talk to you for a few mins.

Any news you know about that she might be interested in hearing?

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This mirror is huge so taking it to her work would not be an option. If I keep giving to her my house will be empty, I have already given pix, lamps and other stuff.


Ok, we'll have to think of something else.

I wonder if you looked on a beauty web site if you'd see something new for hairdressers.. (That's what your WW is, right?) maybe you'd see something that might make her job easier....something small you could say you saw and thought of her....

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I have an appt set up to talk to her about that and filing the paperwork against OM.


Good!

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She asked for the mirror again today. So i guess I will end up giving that to her eventually. Right now me laying low might be the best thing for me. The more involved I get with her the more I have been thinking about her. I need to get my head back straight before I start back with her. I am afraid if I do something for her, I may (subconsciencly) begin to feel that she is coming back. I don't know, maybe doing something for her would be the best thing to do since the bomb is going to be dropped on OM next week. I am really confused. Not much different than post # 1 today. I am growing but today isn't one of my better days.


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If you deliver the mirror to her, leave a note on the mirror..."When you look in this mirror, do you see the same beautiful woman that I see every time I look at you?"

I think that's from Too Much Coffee Man, who used to post here quite a bit. I used it, and it touched my W. All part of Plan A.

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That is brillant. I will do that if it doesn't ice over tonight. Why can't I think up stuff like that.


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I hate to ask so many dumb questions but shouldn't I write this out instead of printing it. My handwriting is horrible but I think it may be more personable.


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Write it out. It's from you not a cracker jack box.


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"Mrs pHB, I hate to let it go. It reminds me so much of you. How's homework with DD? Anything I can help with? Did you know it you ate those donuts while standing they don't have calories."

Just small talk, but talk. You are letting her hear your voice and while you are talking she is seeing the new better looking you.

Smooth, cool - first date stuff.

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How is this

WW I hate to let this go because I remember so many times watching you in that mirror as you would get ready. I hope you see the same beautiful woman in this mirror that I see every time I look at you.


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