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I can tell you that Florida is WARMER! For sure! 3 degrees above zero this morning, with a 10-20 mph WNW wind that cuts through to the bone. Much like the feeling you get when you discover your W is having an affair.
Dawg, follow your heart. You've paid a heavy price to get to where you are, and as ol' 2long put it, you now have the wisdom for having been through this.
Best wishes, SD
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Well FL would be one hellof a plan B
Do they have Waffle Houses in FL???
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Whoops, sorry wrong thread.
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LOL...yes, they do have several Waffle Houses in FL. I have eaten at many of them. But, I don't know. We will see where the wind blows.
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The wind blows from several different directions now. Had lunch with my buddy who lives in Japan and now he is trying to get me to move there. WOW. Just wonder what I could do for work.
Depending on certain assigned dates that may occur, I think I am going to go visit sometime in late May or early June so see what I think. I can get over there for free and stay over thee for free, so why not? He has lived there for 10 years and loves it.
BS - 36 (me) WS - 25 D-Day - 01/08/07(EA), 02/02/07 (PA) Divorce Final - 09/14/07
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Waffle House in JP? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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Waffle House in JP? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> That would be funny. But, just about every other chain that is in the United States is over there these days. So, who knows? I can ask my friend. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
BS - 36 (me) WS - 25 D-Day - 01/08/07(EA), 02/02/07 (PA) Divorce Final - 09/14/07
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Oh, and I got a freakin' tatoo today. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Nothing too tacky, just a cool looking symbol that is on my right arm.
BS - 36 (me) WS - 25 D-Day - 01/08/07(EA), 02/02/07 (PA) Divorce Final - 09/14/07
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Well,
Being the person who was involve in A i would say she is hoping her A would revive back; Probabaly even if you tell her you are coming back she is not so happy.
She will not realize your lover for her or even her love for you now.
I think you should always meet with her often and tell her a lot ogood things about her and praise her. She will only comeback when she has no hope on that OM. So please dont give as I know all wife that enede in A love their husband very much but they dont realize. The new people will blurr thier vision and rejecton form the other party will make them worst.
Take care
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And perhaps someone involved in an active affair has nothing to offer in the way of advice.
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I think you should always meet with her often and tell her a lot ogood things about her and praise her. She will only comeback when she has no hope on that OM. So please dont give as I know all wife that enede in A love their husband very much but they dont realize. AS you'll learn from the articles on the main page, the very real danger 2 this approach is that it will prolong the affair, not end it, since the WS will get her needs met from both men. Food is doing the right thing. His WW will have 2 get all of her needs met by the OM, who will tire of doing so. At the same time, Food will remove himself from the s2pid, selfish, cruel drama, and be able 2 function. Active affairees nearly always believe that they can love more than one person at a time. But the truth is, they don't love anybody, least of all themselves. -ol' 2long
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I sit here a better, stronger Dog. I look back on the past 7 weeks and all I can say is "Wow, what a FREAKIN' roller coaster!".
I went from a desperate man, to a broken man, to a man who grows stronger and more confident with each passing day.
Yea, there are times where I am sad because of the events of the past month and a half. Usually, in the morning. But that's ok. It is part of the healing process.
I now truly understand what Plan A is about. It is about improving yourself as a human being.
I have become more compassionate towards other people. I now try to put myself in their shoes to get a better understanding of why they feel a certain way. I let go of my anger, or find other outlets so I don't take it out on the people I care about. I would like to say I am in better shape, but I am not going to the gym because I am reluctant to sign a membership because I am not sure of where I am going to end up. I am a better listener.
It is about overcoming adversity. It is about preparing yourself to let go.
People ask me, after all that has happened, if I want my marriage back. My answer to that is no, absolutely not. I do not want my marriage back.
Now, does that mean I do not want my wife back? No, it doesn't mean that. I cannot think of anything better than to spend my life with her. But, I do not want the marriage we had. It wasn't a healthy marriage. There were problems coming from both sides and it got to the point where it became toxic, hence the events of the past 7 weeks.
I would like a marriage where we both are completely open and honest with each other, where we trust each other. I would like it where we create a safe haven that both of us could turn to when we need it. I would like intimacy that is unparalled.
Will I ever get there? Who knows what the future holds. I sure as heck do not. But, that is ok too. I no longer fear the unknown.
As the arrogant, annoying Chuck Yeager would say, "Press On!" By the way, he wasn't the first to break the sound barrier, it was George Welch...but, I digress.
I continue to prepare for my journey forward.
BS - 36 (me) WS - 25 D-Day - 01/08/07(EA), 02/02/07 (PA) Divorce Final - 09/14/07
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Dog you just hit Plan A on the head.
Glad to hear that you are better and stronger. You are a better person for yourself.
Peace be with you my friend.
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Food:
I thought it was those unfor2nate P51 pilots during WWII who were unable 2 pull out of dives because the plane's control surfaces were ineffective above the sound barrier who broke it first.?
But then, "successfully" must factor in, as well.
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Food:
I thought it was those unfor2nate P51 pilots during WWII who were unable 2 pull out of dives because the plane's control surfaces were ineffective above the sound barrier who broke it first.?
But then, "successfully" must factor in, as well.
-ol' 2long That is a myth. The propellor of the World War II fighters would never allow the airframe to exceed the speed of the sound. What they experienced is called "Mach Tuck", which is where the airframe was getting close to the speed of sound and a shock wave was formed which usually placed itself over the control surfaces, which rendered them useless. What happens is, as the airplane nears the speed of sound, the shockwave will put the nose down, which increases the speed even more. The shockwave moves, and there ya go. Instant smoking hole in the ground. Modern day airplanes, like jetliners and corporate aircraft, have a Maximum Mach Operating speed (MMO). Exceed this, and you can experience first hand what it is like!
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That is a myth. The propellor of the World War II fighters would never allow the airframe to exceed the speed of the sound. Aha! But, in a dive, it isn't the propeller causing the acceleration, it's gravity! I'll look this up, though. Granted, it's a few hundred MPH above the P51's straight and level top speed 2 the speed of sound, so maybe you're right. But the shock wave on the control surfaces, at least, does suggest that the air is moving faster than sound over the top of the wing. ...I've ac2ally seen this shock wave while on an airline flight 2 Houston years ago. Light was just right that I could see its shadow on the wing just outside my window, and once I saw the shadow, I could see the distortion in the air above it. Very cool. -ol' 2long
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I thought it was those unfor2nate P51 pilots during WWII who were unable 2 pull out of dives DF is right in his answer. But I believe it was the P-38 Lightning that suffered this effect the worst (could be wrong though). IIRC (being something of an aviation buff and wanting to fly at some point in my life), propeller driven aircraft can't break the sound barrier because the tips of the propellers will hit that barrier first, before the base of the blades, generating the disturbed airflow that would interefer with the craft's ability to continue to accelerate. Or something like that. Been many years since I studied aerodynamics and things like that. Sorry for the T/J, DF. Though maybe a brief digress not related to marriage would cheer you up <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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If you remain in Me and My words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be given to you. John 15:7 (NIV)
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I sit here a better, stronger Dog. I look back on the past 7 weeks and all I can say is "Wow, what a FREAKIN' roller coaster!".
I went from a desperate man, to a broken man, to a man who grows stronger and more confident with each passing day.
Yea, there are times where I am sad because of the events of the past month and a half. Usually, in the morning. But that's ok. It is part of the healing process.
I now truly understand what Plan A is about. It is about improving yourself as a human being.
I have become more compassionate towards other people. I now try to put myself in their shoes to get a better understanding of why they feel a certain way. I let go of my anger, or find other outlets so I don't take it out on the people I care about. I would like to say I am in better shape, but I am not going to the gym because I am reluctant to sign a membership because I am not sure of where I am going to end up. I am a better listener.
It is about overcoming adversity. It is about preparing yourself to let go.
People ask me, after all that has happened, if I want my marriage back. My answer to that is no, absolutely not. I do not want my marriage back.
Now, does that mean I do not want my wife back? No, it doesn't mean that. I cannot think of anything better than to spend my life with her. But, I do not want the marriage we had. It wasn't a healthy marriage. There were problems coming from both sides and it got to the point where it became toxic, hence the events of the past 7 weeks.
I would like a marriage where we both are completely open and honest with each other, where we trust each other. I would like it where we create a safe haven that both of us could turn to when we need it. I would like intimacy that is unparalled.
Will I ever get there? Who knows what the future holds. I sure as heck do not. But, that is ok too. I no longer fear the unknown.
As the arrogant, annoying Chuck Yeager would say, "Press On!" By the way, he wasn't the first to break the sound barrier, it was George Welch...but, I digress.
I continue to prepare for my journey forward. Amen
EA Internet DD 2/06, 11/06 PA DD 3/20/07 started in 10/06 WW seperated 2/6/07 plan B 4/16/07 Divorced 7/09/07
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That is a myth. The propellor of the World War II fighters would never allow the airframe to exceed the speed of the sound. Aha! But, in a dive, it isn't the propeller causing the acceleration, it's gravity! I'll look this up, though. Granted, it's a few hundred MPH above the P51's straight and level top speed 2 the speed of sound, so maybe you're right. But the shock wave on the control surfaces, at least, does suggest that the air is moving faster than sound over the top of the wing. ...I've ac2ally seen this shock wave while on an airline flight 2 Houston years ago. Light was just right that I could see its shadow on the wing just outside my window, and once I saw the shadow, I could see the distortion in the air above it. Very cool. -ol' 2long You will see a shockwave as the aircraft approaches the sound barrier. It is literally created by the airplane pushing the air in front it to the point that it can no longer get out of the way of the airplane. When the pressure build, the moisture in the air condenses, and forms the shockwave. When an airplane is flying in an area of very low humidity, you won't see a thing. Most of the stuff you see on an airliner is sort of the same principle, but usually happens when the flaps and slats are hanging out, which produces more lift over the airfoil (wing), which will change the realative pressure around the wing, which will condense the moister and you can see things like vapor trails coming off the wingtips, or a lot vapor over the wing, etc... The P-38 and the P-47 (My fav WWII fighter) were some of the worst. The British Spitfire had a bad rep in this area, as well. On an another aviation side (I'm going to brag here, cuz that's what pilots do best), I have about 1200 hours flying the North American T-6 Texan, which was the last step WWII pilots flew in their training before going to fly fighters.
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I sit here a better, stronger Dog. I look back on the past 7 weeks and all I can say is "Wow, what a FREAKIN' roller coaster!".
I went from a desperate man, to a broken man, to a man who grows stronger and more confident with each passing day.
Yea, there are times where I am sad because of the events of the past month and a half. Usually, in the morning. But that's ok. It is part of the healing process.
I now truly understand what Plan A is about. It is about improving yourself as a human being.
I have become more compassionate towards other people. I now try to put myself in their shoes to get a better understanding of why they feel a certain way. I let go of my anger, or find other outlets so I don't take it out on the people I care about. I would like to say I am in better shape, but I am not going to the gym because I am reluctant to sign a membership because I am not sure of where I am going to end up. I am a better listener.
It is about overcoming adversity. It is about preparing yourself to let go.
People ask me, after all that has happened, if I want my marriage back. My answer to that is no, absolutely not. I do not want my marriage back.
Now, does that mean I do not want my wife back? No, it doesn't mean that. I cannot think of anything better than to spend my life with her. But, I do not want the marriage we had. It wasn't a healthy marriage. There were problems coming from both sides and it got to the point where it became toxic, hence the events of the past 7 weeks.
I would like a marriage where we both are completely open and honest with each other, where we trust each other. I would like it where we create a safe haven that both of us could turn to when we need it. I would like intimacy that is unparalled.
Will I ever get there? Who knows what the future holds. I sure as heck do not. But, that is ok too. I no longer fear the unknown.
As the arrogant, annoying Chuck Yeager would say, "Press On!" By the way, he wasn't the first to break the sound barrier, it was George Welch...but, I digress.
I continue to prepare for my journey forward. Amen Thank you, Ken313...I have kind if lost track of your thread...how are you doing?
BS - 36 (me) WS - 25 D-Day - 01/08/07(EA), 02/02/07 (PA) Divorce Final - 09/14/07
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