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LA,

thanks for the words. I just don't know if I wan't to do this anymore. I have stated my boundaries numerous times to her, which she has violated every time. I have been trying to Plan A for almost 3 months and I believe the EA has gotten even worse. I have exposed to family and friends and she has turned away from them. All classic A traits. I feel I need to move to Plan B.

I am definitely going to expose to her workplace, he is a Supervisor.

WIC

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Update:

I realize I have been falling into obsessive behavior. 24hrs of not following MB principles and getting the predicted results have opened my eyes. I am doing everything the MB "Advisors" are telling me not to do.

I am going to work extremely hard to start following the "guidelines". I have ordered SAA. I am going to pull back from "snooping" as I basically have all the information that I need to know and it is making fall into a depression.

I am going to start fillng my time (I think an assignment will be coming soon, which will not be soon enough) with home projects, kids, golf, etc. I need to start worrying about me (thanks LA, I think I am finally getting it). My WW is in a deep fog, yesterday finally convinced me of that. I will continue to strategically expose th EA.

I am going to have to find the right time to expose to her employer. I have done enough damage in the last day, that I feel I need to give her a little space right now. Exposing to employer needs to happen, to get the OM out of there. But, I need get my self on the right track first.

WIC

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I am going to have to find the right time to expose to her employer. I have done enough damage in the last day, that I feel I need to give her a little space right now. Exposing to employer needs to happen, to get the OM out of there. But, I need get my self on the right track first.

WIC

The right time is NOW....you're wasting precious time....

You need OM to leave job? How about your W leaving? You need her to own it.....this is her problem....


Me BS - 44
FWW- 42
EA for 4 years with fellow employee
became PA in Jan 04 - I knew of this one.
Seperated/ Divorced July 03
2 sons 14 & 12
D Day -6/26/04- PA in 1998 for about 1 year- I had NO idea.
recovery and reconciliation began 6/27/04

Remarried 2/18/06

My story?? Click below.

http://www.marriagebuilders.com/ubbt/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=129980&Number=1575914
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Absolutely. Exposure should be all at once. If you give your wife "space" right now, she'll use it to protect the affair.

Are you sure you aren't putting off the conflict n hopes that half measures will do the job? Your wife WILL be angry at you for exposing at work. The betrayers are NEVER happy when the light is shined on their actions. She will tell you "Now you've done it! I'll never trust you again....." and other babel. Just stand firm.

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I'm with Belle, WIC. There is no perfect time to expose or, in fact, do anything else. Just suck in a deep breath, pardner, and do it.

I would also suggest you get yourself to your doctor and ask him/her to prescribe an anti-depressant for you. Right now, you’re flying off the handle too easily and then suffering terrific lows. Anti-depressants will even that out and make things much easier to bear. Go today, pardner. They take a couple of weeks to take effect so don’t delay. Your children deserve at least one sane parent.

WIC, listen…quit expecting your WW to be logical and reasonable. She’s an alien, remember? Get that into your head. Make yourself see one of the aliens from that Star Wars barroom when you think of or see your wife. It’ll help. No one expects logic or reason from an alien, right? Aliens exist only to berate you, say (and do) disrespectful things, and humiliate you by any means possible. Expect nothing else at this stage, WIC because you’re not going to get anything but that. Don’t let it throw you.

I think it’s a good time for you to review Pepperband’s “The Carrot And Stick Of Plan A.” You have a sense of what you should be doing in Plan A. Pepper’s thread encapsulates the technique in a very few short, simple policies. Her thread can be found here:


[color:"blue"]Pepper's "Carrot & Stick Thread" [/color]


I see where you think you should stop snooping. I would advise against that. Instead, keep up your intelligence gathering operation and journal everything you find. Regretfully, you may need such information if your attempt to revive your marriage fails and you have to go to Plan D. Again, anti-depressants can help you see what your WW is doing and not react so strongly.

Hang in there, WIC. You’re in a bad place there, but others have been where you are and come out sane and whole on the other side. No one can promise you your marriage will survive, but we can tell you you’ll get through this and the world will be right again, one way or the other.

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WIC,

We hear you, buddy. Seriously. The pain is incredible...takes a hero to do this...and I have no doubt you are one...fully capable...exposure isn't strategic...we don't live from strategic truth...we live from truth.

You often hear "honest and straightforward"...they go together like peas and carrots...there's a reason. We often tell ourselves we are being straightforward when we are being anything but...

My contribution for today is...halve your pain, toots. That's right...cut it in half. You've made a great decision in getting SAA...help explain the alien behavior...this is NOT your dearly beloved wife. I promise...this is...WW.

Now, to cut your pain in half...I want you to not take what she says as fact...because it isn't...she is not doing this to you...yes, it sure as heck feels like and it's incredibly painful to believe she's doing in spite of you...totally discounted. Choose for right now NOT to believe either of those. Choose to believe this is how humans behave when they grow their resentment, harden it to a steely honed entitlement, and lack respect for anyone. Most of all, for themselves.

This has to do with a whole lotta stuff from her childhood, her past, her routine of distracting to soothe, going into fantasy to self-comfort...and this addiction isn't real...totally fantasy...like drugs, alcohol...lots of other stuff. Isn't about you. You do not have to fall into depression or despair...you can self-coach with honesty, which is the healthy choice (also ensures you won't be doing what she's doing, salving with fantasy)...and helps to know she is in real pain underneath that helium-laden fantasy fix.

Well, it was a comfort to me. And it wasn't. And it was.

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You're real.

Say, "I am" at least five times a day out loud.

You are. That's reality. State it. Be in it. Don't go into the future or dwell on the past...be present.

Halve your pain immediately.

We believe in you.

LA

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