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Funny, B <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> but insightful

I'm going to have to find all your (mortarman) posts and read up on your story...amazing...and from the few recent posts i've read, you really have endured a lot...and it seems you are finally reaping the harvest from what you have sowed...

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I'm glad you checked in. I've been thinking about you.

Mortarman is one of the experts here and has gone through more than most. His story is wonderful.

So, what did your husband think?

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I actually updated it earlier today--it's under the same thread as before. He at first was saying, "He hasn't said anything I don't already know"...but at one point he did say if we follow the program it should work, but he doesn't know if he wants to...he still says he thinks he would be happier single....so, hopeful, but uncertain...

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I posted to it - sorry, I missed it earlier - must have been while I was cleaning.

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Mortarman:

Glad you were able to go. Mrs LG and I went to the Philly conference in Oct in 2005. We had about 110 couples at ours. We were not able to mingle as much. If you only had 20 couples, that would have been awesome.

I endorse your recommendation that visitors here SHOULD go. You can read everything here, and even the books, but the follow on support and the information provided, plus the opportunity to have someone who really knows what is going on explain the issues to us WW is amazing...

Let us know how it goes with Mrs MM from here....

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Tell the Mrs we are rootin' for her

and you too, of course <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Pep

I did Pep. As a matter of fact, she came on with me last night, as we were doing our first lesson as part of the weekend program...and read what everyone wrote.


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All I can say is..PRAISE THE LORD!!!

This story is one of HIS GIFTS to ALL OF US HERE in so many different ways!!!

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The Lord is amazing, isnt He. This has EVERYTHING to do with Him!


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We are definitely one of the marriages in crisis, however we are not yet separated...so not in plan B. My WH was the one who asked the happiness question...basically, if he could be happy with someone else. I don't know for sure if the A is actually ended or not...although I have to assume for now that it is. He is still considering leaving.

Was that the "utility needs" question? Anyway, DW...hang in there. He is still there...and he is hearing the truth. He can try to run from the truth...but he cant hide from it.

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I really did enjoy and learn a lot from the seminar. I figure even if WH and I don't recover, I have some concrete knowledge on how relationships should work. Everything really did make a lot of sense and there is definite evidence supporting it. I can see how doing the homework will cause two people to fall in love.

You are right! I think any thinking person can sit thru that conference and walk out knowing that this works. That even skeptics, if they do exactly what Dr. Harley proposes to do over the year...will be in romantic love at the end.

Of course, he did tell of the danger, though. That most couples that didnt begin the at-home work immediately after returning home, almost always didnt make it. So, get your husband to move forward on the lessons...even if he doesnt feel like it. Make it an evening...get some food and wine...and then get on it! We started last night.

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I also recommend the seminar whole-heartedly. There is definitely a wealth of information in the program and I do look forward to hopefully mending our relationship.

He spoke of Joe Beam at the end, and that is the other seminar we considered....we chose this one because of the follow-up....although I do remember another post saying that was a great one as well.

My wife also commented on the follow-up that the Harleys do. I think it is key.

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One thing I do wish, though, is maybe if they could meet with the couples one-on-one for maybe just a couple minutes. I would have loved to actually meet S. Harley as well as Dr. Harley more formally, but my H didn't want to 'hang' around afterwards. Oh well, at least I was able to speak with J. Harley at bit more...we ate lunch with her and she was a delight to talk to <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> ...i'm so envious of their relationship <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> ...hopefully with the homework we'll get there....

Maybe you should get some appointments with Steve. My wife and I are. Mrs. MM even got a little private time with Steve at the end to go over a few things she learned or had questions about. So, think about doing the counseling with Steve while also doing this program. The program will move you forward, while Steve can help both of you deal with the specific issues going on in your lives as they come up.

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Btw, when you say 'right front', do you mean on the left half 'right front' or the right half 'front'? ...only 'cause if you were the right half 'front' we sat with you at lunch <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> if not, oh well...wish i could have met you guys

We were all the way on the right...up front. Usually the last ones to sit down after the breaks!! Somehow, we are always late!

I will go check out your thread!


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Mortarman:

Glad you were able to go. Mrs LG and I went to the Philly conference in Oct in 2005. We had about 110 couples at ours. We were not able to mingle as much. If you only had 20 couples, that would have been awesome.

I endorse your recommendation that visitors here SHOULD go. You can read everything here, and even the books, but the follow on support and the information provided, plus the opportunity to have someone who really knows what is going on explain the issues to us WW is amazing...

Let us know how it goes with Mrs MM from here....

LG

Thanks LG!! And you know those feelings of a WS (FWS) after the conference. As if you finally know that somebody understands what you have been going through!!

It is amazing. And yes, I will keep you updated!


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Married April 1993...
4 kids (19(B), 17(G), 14(B), 4(B))
Blessed by God more than I deserve
"If Jesus is your co-pilot...you need to change seats!"

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