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-Yes, I do need financial help right now until I get on my feet but I am not going to sue him for 1/2 his salary right now-


Why not? You are LEGALLY ENTITLED TO THIS. IT IS IMPERATIVE TO MAINTAIN HIS RESPECT OF YOU.


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Oh yea, I forgot to tell ya'll...just last week he bought a new car (actually I did but I am his POA but it was his suggestion) so I can drive it to save gas/money...and then for V-day, he bought me a very expensive gift..and now he wants to separate? WTF?


CAKE-EATING..he wants you waiting around until he finishes playing..until he's sure that separation is what he really wants...

Hoping, you really need to get ALL or more that you are legally entitled to receive...

He needs to SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES of his ACTIONS...


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But can I Plan B if I am still financially dependant on him?

Yes....and don't accept more gifts that have ties to the WS. If he gives you a gift ask who is giving it to you...the WS or H?

Financial obligation is only a part of his responsibility. To deny that obligation is to abandon one's family of which you would have legal recourse.

Don't let that stop you or cause you to enable the A.

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Hey guys-Now he is wanting to put the separation in writing and make it legal....I am so hurt. My heart is broken and this pain just will not go away....


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All is not totally lost, Hoping.

I had a legal separation.

MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET ALL THAT YOU LEGALLY DESERVE...INCLUDING SPOUSAL SUPPORT!!

Write a PBL and GO DARK ON HIM....

After the LSA, change your E-Mail address...and don't answer his phone calls.

Give him some means of contacting you, though, stated in the letter.


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Thanks Mimi-do you have an idea of how my PBL should read? I am so at a loss right now.


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Hoping,

I am so sorry that your H has taken it to this level. I wish I had some words of wisdom for you, but I have never personally experience this myself. It seems that your H is so deep into the fog that he can't even see his own hand and what it's doing! I will continue to follow your sitch and offer help when I can, but always know that I am here for a shoulder too. I really do wish I could have offered you more! Continue to work on yourself, so that he will see what he is "giving up" by wanting to do this. You have a lot to offer, and he will eventually see that. At this time, YOU are what's most important here. Take care of yourself!

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There's a SAMPLE LETTER and discussion about it in SAA.


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Thanks Tigger-I appreciate it.
Mimi, he is willing to give me what I need/deserve as far as finances. I am just so hurt. I can't believe it has come to this. I have been working so hard on myself but it still hurts. I just don't know if I have it in me to ever take him back and make this work. I have taken him back 3x's already.


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Just like I told my DH YESTERDAY: "Time heals all wounds"....


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Thanks Mimi-what made your H finally want to come home and work our ur M? If you don't mind me asking...


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just wanted to share what I have learned in hopes that this may help some of you. People here have been so helpful to me that I want to give back some of what I have received.

These are my suggestions:

DO A GREAT PLAN A: Steve H. called it MY PLAN. I tried to figure out what ENs that I was not addressing in my marriage. I worked on these problems. Making these changes was mainly good for me as a person but it also has been an essential ingredient in my marriage today. These changes have become a part of me so that now that my H is back it is not forced. It is natural for me to go to the gym, watch what I eat, cook dinner for the family, consider his point of view, give him attention, etc. These are some of the things that I was not doing prior to D-Day. Of course, I am not perfect. The fact that I am doing enough of these things compensates for my weak points. What I have not been able to accomplish continues to be our primary marital problems. The point is WORK ON YOUR PLAN.

ACCEPT THAT YOU WILL PROBABLY NEED TO GO TO PLAN B: Folks on here told me this but I did not want to believe it. For my H, the A was too addictive for PLAN A to be enough. But true to the Harley text, he has told me PLAN A caused him to think about me a lot while he was with her. Even if he did not want to, he remembered the me that I was during my PLAN A.

THE MORE TIME WS SPENDS WITH THE OP, THE BETTER: This is what I'm repeatedly hearing from FWS. Prior to PLAN B, they mainly met on the the weekends, maintaining the fantasy. When I was out of the picture, he really got to know her. Luckily in my case, she seems to be a nutty, alcoholic. He can't find too many good things to say about her as a real person. She was lots of fun but day-to-day she was not able to do the job of wifey that he needs to make it. Add my SF, physical attractiveness, domestic stuff during PLAN A, he's in love with me again. She's not meeting any needs. He's left addicted to her, hoping and wishing for the drug to take effect again. Let me know if I'm not making this clear because it is an important point.

WS DOES NEED A ROAD MAP BACK HOME (as suggested by Espoir and MM): This is the transition piece that we have been talking about in my thread towards the end of the A. My WS stated that he wanted to end the A, come home months ago but needed to feel that there was a way out FOR HIM . If there was not a way out, he thinks he would have given up and just stayed in his mess. I would imagine that the WAY OUT will look different for different people. For him, he wanted a nice place to stay. A refuge continues to be important to him. Also, he is very proudful and needed to be sure that he would not be humiliated by me, my family or the kids. This all can be spelled out specifically in one or more PB letters. I wrote a couple of letters, I think. My FWS referred back to those. Also, I opened up lines of communication in the end regarding my terms for reconciliation.

HANGING IN THERE WILL MAKE YOU A BETTER PERSON: Regardless of the outcome of this for me, I am happier with myself. It's unbelievable to me that I am saying this. I am a stronger, more self-confident person. So even if my H goes back to the OW, God forbid, I now will not take it as a rejection of me. I know that I did everything I could possibly do to save my marriage. Now it's on him. If he leaves, it will be his loss. He knows this about me now and has grown to respect me.

These are my thoughts for now. Hope this helps somebody.

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This is one of my BEST ANSWERS to your question..pulled from the other thread.


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hoping68: All the stuff in the above post are good answers - but it also didn't hurt that Mimi SOLD THE HOUSE when her WH moved out to go play with his OW!!!!!

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Oh Yea..and I did SELL THE HOUSE...actually putting it up FOR SALE in the first place blew his mind...


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Thanks Mimi-that is very helpful. I don't own a home to sell. But I see your point. I know I have to do a Plan B but I am extremely scared about doing it. All of this seems to make is so "final" and that is makes me very sad.


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I was very sad, too.

But like you..I had no other choice...he didn't want me...


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So I need to wait until he signs the PSA and then send him the PBL? correct?


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mimi? orchid? tigger?


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He should be the one doing all the work on the SEPARATION AGREEMENT..arranging for signatures, etc....

Stall..take your time to read it..time to make up your mind on the arrangements, etc...make it DIFFICULT for him to get what HE WANTS...

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Mimi, I have been advised by more than a few people, my therapist included, that I need to go forward in this LSA w/ my lawyer. Their line of thinking is if I make him get the LSA, then he could cut me off financially and it is nearly impossible to get $ from him if he is overseas. They are wanting me to protect myself financially and get this in writing so I can "move on". Also for other legal reasons, ones that I cannot state here b/c he might read it, they want me to go ahead and do this and secure myself.
I don't know what to do.
What did you do w/ ur H's things when you sold your house? Did you pack them up and set them aside or what?


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