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Since I care for y'all and don't want y'all to go blind

I shall avoid running nekid through the streets in celebration <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

Trust me...you'll thank me...it would be burned into your retinas. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />




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I SHALL, however, engage in Happy Snoopy Dancing in my undies if you insist... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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Ok, CJ. Go for It!

Would those be Goddesslike Victoria Secret undies or Snoopy undies? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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I'll provide the toons

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Still!!
I kept checking today to see if you had posted. I am so relieved to know that you were (at the VERY, VERY least) able to buy yourself some time.

This is amazing! I am so, so happy for you...no matter the outcome...at least you know that WH had an inkling of what he was carelessly throwing away...for a slut. You have seen the cracks...which I have to believe is preferrable to seeing nothing but cold hard W-ishness. There's some time now for those cracks to potentially grow and finally break WH completely.

Now you can take a breath, and KNOW that all of your hard work has paid off...not just for your growth, but has had an impact on him as well. The rest is up to him.

CJ and the other pros will take it from here...I just wanted to let you know that I will KEEP praying for you. (((still!)))

BC: My FAVORITE song from college bar days!!!

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Great news, Still. I'm really happy for you!

Listen to CJ. Her advice sounds spot on.

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Still,

I'm speechless.

And very happy for you!


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Awlrighty then!

I am Happy Snoopy Dancing in my Goddess-like Hanes Her Ways!! Hmmmmmm...after reading some of the threads here on MB about new poster names, maybe I should change my user name to "Goddess-like Hanes Her Way" <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

The Snoopy Dance

Still, there is celebrating in the streets for you. Thankfully, here in the Pacific Northwest we do it with our clothing ON!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

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Hey guys,

I wouldn't even be close to where I am right now if it wasn't for all of you.
Right now I'm being cautiously optimistic.... it may mean nothing at all, just a bad weekend with the ho. I am just relieved that I do have more time and with this gives more time for the A to crash and burn.

I am waiting for WH to make the next move about talking about this. He needs time to reflect... I do think there are some clinks in his armour. I won't know for sure until we talk.

I am going to call Steve and set up some counciling with him and maybe WH will also join in at some time.

I never thought I could feel the peace that I feel right now. CJ your words and reflections are inspiring. I did feel as if I was stepping off a cliff and I stepped and God was there for me. What an amazing feeling.

I will see WH tonight at DD softabll final. If they win tonight it's the state championships.

BC... just wanted to let you now I loved the song.

(((Rin, Silent, Wild, Bugs, LilSis, CJ, SDguy, BC,Wondering))))
sorry if I left anyone out.

I woldn't be here without you shoulders, and prayers.

Still


BW me 46
WH 46
Together 28 years married 23
3 Kids DD20, DD17 and DS 14
DD #1 (1st A) 10/13/01 with single OW who was co-worker
DD#2 1/23/02 phone call from OW
WH left job 4/02
MC 10/01 to 4/02 (when he showed up)
Separated 7/04 to 10/04
Retrouvaille 9/04
Red Flags 11/05
DD#1 (2nd affair) 8/16/06 with MOW age 29 twice married and he's her boss.
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GOOD MORNING STILL! I'm still praying for you and for the best for you!

I'm looking forward to seeing how this things goes, but you have to know that it's all the hard work that you've done...

Can you give us a list or summary of the changes that you've made? It's great to see them in writing and it may help some of the newbies to see how you've progressed...

LMAO...

I'm doing the jump up and down dance with you...you know in a circle while screaming like a teenager!!!!!

Eye of the Tiger

I'm helping BC out!


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Still,

As Rin says, give yourself credit here!

Yes, the support here is unlike any other. However, YOU have done the actual work! YOU have made changes in yourself and kept on a path that we all know is the most difficult we have ever walked!

I think that written list of changes is a great idea!

What is the name of DD's team? Want to know the name of the soon to be State Champs!


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Rin, Bugs

I'll have to think about the changes I have made. That really is a tough one. I know what I didn't do and should have done. (lol)

My plan B was far from perfect.... you could say I'm a plan B drop out.

I don't want this to sound preachy... but my biggest change was letting it be in Gods hands. disentangling myself. I know the doubts will creep back and when they do I slay them with my goddes sword.

My DD's softball team are the Black Raiders. Tonight at 7pm let the game
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I'll start working on my list and catching up with everyone else threads.

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BW me 46
WH 46
Together 28 years married 23
3 Kids DD20, DD17 and DS 14
DD #1 (1st A) 10/13/01 with single OW who was co-worker
DD#2 1/23/02 phone call from OW
WH left job 4/02
MC 10/01 to 4/02 (when he showed up)
Separated 7/04 to 10/04
Retrouvaille 9/04
Red Flags 11/05
DD#1 (2nd affair) 8/16/06 with MOW age 29 twice married and he's her boss.
Moved out (him) weekend after labor day
23rd anniversary 10/7/07
Filed 10/18/06 still seeing MOW
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Good idea to do your own inventory....just to show yourself how far you've come. I bet once you get going it will become easier.

Why is it so much harder to identify what we do right the what we do wrong?

Keep breathing...

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The million dollar question..... I wish I knew.

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BW me 46
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Together 28 years married 23
3 Kids DD20, DD17 and DS 14
DD #1 (1st A) 10/13/01 with single OW who was co-worker
DD#2 1/23/02 phone call from OW
WH left job 4/02
MC 10/01 to 4/02 (when he showed up)
Separated 7/04 to 10/04
Retrouvaille 9/04
Red Flags 11/05
DD#1 (2nd affair) 8/16/06 with MOW age 29 twice married and he's her boss.
Moved out (him) weekend after labor day
23rd anniversary 10/7/07
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Still, BE STILL...

This is some of the best advice I was given. Wait for it to come to you. Don't chase down a wayward; no need, and I'm sure you are [email]d@mn[/email] tired of deeling with one.

You let go, that was what it feels like. You finally released yourself from the NOTION that there was something you could do or say; there is not, not really. Your WH has to recognize the decisions he is making all on his own; no prompting from anyone. He is looking at things; that's good. Let him alone; go about things as you have these months; remain in Plan B. You can peek out, and talk to the spouse, but watch out for that wayward, do not let him breach your boundaries.

Ah, the inventory...

You didn't do anything WRONG during this process, just differently, 'kay? MB IS a plan, but without it, you had to make decisions. Also, some of this stuff is hard to swallow (along with a lot of pride) so it's not unusual to fall off of the plans. No more kicking yourself, but look at what you have accomplished. The most obvious is going about your daily life without your spouse by your side. What have you started to do that you weren't doing BEFORE the infidelities? How has your attitude changed? See changes aren't just about what you DO, but also how you think, what strengths you have gained.

Sit tight, Still, as you have been; it's your WH's time to figure it out, and no one can enlighten him. He has to let the light in...


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Silent,

Thanks that is great advice... I am doing my best to be STILL..to be the lighthouse per se.

I'm going to let him come to me about this. I am also going to make an appt with Steve, when I get home tonight fromDD ballgame.

I am still feeling I am ready to accept whatever happens. I hope it with H but I'm going to be okay regardless.

Off to the game.

Still


BW me 46
WH 46
Together 28 years married 23
3 Kids DD20, DD17 and DS 14
DD #1 (1st A) 10/13/01 with single OW who was co-worker
DD#2 1/23/02 phone call from OW
WH left job 4/02
MC 10/01 to 4/02 (when he showed up)
Separated 7/04 to 10/04
Retrouvaille 9/04
Red Flags 11/05
DD#1 (2nd affair) 8/16/06 with MOW age 29 twice married and he's her boss.
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Still,

I bumped up a thread by Ark for you.

I think you will know which one.

Hope it helps you. It has done wonders for me and I read it often


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I have two things for you that I wrote...sort of as my 'inventory' at the time. I am sharing them with you UNEDITED and exactly as I wrote them at the time:

First, "CJ's Good Qualities"

CJ’S GOOD QUALITIES:

PHYSICALLY
1. Petite
2. Thick, pretty hair
3. Strawberry brown hair that is cut to the shoulder
4. Beautiful coffee-brown eyes
5. Round little nose
6. Full lips
7. Voluptuous figure
8. Full bodied
9. Tiny, cute little hands
10. A good belly button for raspberries
11. Strong legs
12. Curvaceous legs
13. Adorable toes
14. Flat, square but somehow cute feet
15. Other excellent more private things

SPIRITUALLY
1. I’d say I am a godly woman
2. I have a personal relationship with God
3. I know the ten commandments by heart! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
4. I know the books of the bible in order! Heehee
5. I have actually read the bible and studied it
6. I value moral living
7. I believe wives should submit to their husbands, and husbands should love their wives like Christ loved the Church (which, BTW, was 100% to the point of giving his very life).
8. I practice, “Faith without works is dead”
9. I trust in God
10. I have strong faith in God
11. I honor my commitments
12. I am learning what true Love is…the real Love that is godly love.
13. My personal spiritual “heroes” are Ruth and Daniel. Read their books in the bible and see why.

EMOTIONALLY
1. Honestly, I’m somewhat of a mess emotionally.
2. My feeling/emotional side is my greatest strength and my greatest weakness
3. I am strong beyond what I thought possible.
4. I am kind, loving, thoughtful, silly, caring, patient, happy, carefree, trusting, and secure.
5. I am also fault-finding, too serious, overwhelmed, mentally exhausted, sad, worried, scared/afraid, unsafe, and ******.
6. My biggest fear is that I am unlovable and unwanted
7. My biggest pet peeve is being ignored or shut out. That rocks my world.
8. I ride a wave of emotions almost every day
9. I do not understand what personal boundaries are, and I find them VERY hard to establish
10. I frequently “flood” emotionally, when I get upset or hurt
11. I LOVE to analyze what I’m feeling, so I am very in touch with myself.

INTELLECTUALLY
1. This one is easy…I am a super genius! Heehee
2. I am very, very, very smart—no boasting, just acknowledging the truth
3. I have an excellent memory
4. I LOVE to learn and I know a little about everything
5. I am an excellent trivia player—look at all that extraneous info in there!!
6. I am smart enough that I could have literally picked any profession: doctor, lawyer, rocket scientist…etc.
7. My I.Q. is in the 160’s.
8. I was studying pre-calculus while still in high school
9. In summary, I am an intellectual dynamo!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

OTHER STUFF
1. I am an excellent, supportive, loving wife
2. I am a fabulous mother
3. I enjoy playing with my kids
4. I enjoy playing!!!
5. I am sober
6. I am an expert at crocheting
7. I am an excellent, naturally-talented writer
8. I like picnics in the park
9. I like concerts and different kinds of music
10. I am a happy person and darn near a comedienne
11. I am very nurturing
12. I am an organized, efficient, friendly executive level administrative assistant
13. I am the POSTER CHILD for I.N.F.P.: Introverted, Intuitive, Feeler, Perceiver.
14. I am a successful business owner
15. I put people at ease
16. I am often accused of being psychic because I can “read” people
17. I am responsible and stronger than I knew I was
18. I am learning how to be a new CJ

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Second, "Steps I Have Taken"

STEPS I HAVE TAKEN:

1. I survived being hit every day with rolling pins and broom handles
2. I survived being lectured and screamed at every day
3. I survived standing at attention for two hours every day
4. I survived being sexually touched as a toddler
5. I survived being asked to do sexual things as a child
6. I learned about God and had a relationship with Him as a child
7. I survived until I was old enough to move out of the house
8. I made it through college (somehow!)
9. I read the entire bible (old and new testaments) four times
10. I made some serious mistakes in college and in young adulthood
11. I drank WAY TOO MUCH in college
12. I had promiscuous sex in my young adulthood
13. I did recreational drugs in young adulthood
14. I became pregnant when I wasn’t married
15. I admitted I was an alcoholic and became sober while I was pregnant (16 years now)
16. I stopped doing ANY kind of drugs when my son was born… even caffeine!
17. I survived my son’s birth, but just barely.
18. My daughter was a premie—two months early!
19. I survived my H’s first physical affair shortly after my daughter’s birth
20. I cared for my premature daughter all by myself
21. I ran a profitable restaurant all by myself
22. I was a HUGE reason my H’s business was successful
23. I supported my H in pursuing his dream—even if cashflow was not as dependable
24. I juggled a budget and money to keep the family and business afloat
25. I survived being a mom for the kids while also being self-employed
26. I realized/recognized that there was something amiss with my anger and went to individual counseling ON MY OWN.
27. I spent three years in intense counseling to work on my abusive past
28. Although the counseling was HARD and painful, I did it with no support from my family
29. I learned about my inner child and how to talk to her and deal with her
30. I discovered that I had no Nurturing inner voice in my head—I had a Child, Protector and a GREAT BIG Criticizer…but no Nurturer. I had to learn that from scratch.
31. I learned what a Nurturer sounds like in your head by writing down what a Mother would say (a Mrs. Cleaver kind of mother…not MY mother!), what a Dog would say, and what God would say. Often God crossed over into Criticizer, so I had to write what a LOVING God might say.
32. I had to relive memories from my childhood that made me sick as an adult
33. My H tried to join me in counseling, but it was not successful
34. I survived several flings, flirts, and emotional affairs (thinking at the time, it was best for the kids)
35. On February 3, 1999, my H left me for a woman in another state. He left me with no job, two kids, all the bills, and a mortgage three months behind.
36. In the midst of THAT, I found a good job
37. In the midst of THAT, I paid all our bills
38. In the midst of THAT, I got our mortgage caught up.
39. I survived the initial shock and sorrow of when a spouse leaves you
40. I found Dr. Phil’s book “Relationship Rescue”
41. I got real with myself and realized I had contributed to the state of our marriage
42. I worked on myself and the relationship
43. I went to an entire anger management course—one whole year
44. I found MB and after reading all the concepts, began to Plan A
45. I got Dr. Harley’s book and began to read them and understand the concepts even further
46. I found out what my Emotional Needs and my Love Busters were
47. I communicated my Emotional Needs and my Love Busters
48. I found Patricia Evan’s book, “The Verbally Abusive Relationship”
49. I COULDN’T BELIEVE IT! THAT WAS ME!
50. I got and read other books on marriage/relationships by authors like Dr. Laura, Dr. Harley, Dr. Phil (haha), Gary Smalley, Ellen Kriedman, etc.
51. I applied what I understood from the books
52. I read other books on verbal abuse like “Invisible Wounds” and “Controlling People
53. As I learned from each book, I practiced new techniques
54. I got and read books for my own personal growth like “Life Strategies” and “Self Matters”
55. I wrote journal after journal about what I was learning
56. I got on web sites and learned about marriage/relationships
57. I got on web sites and learned about affairs
58. I got on web sites and learned about verbal abuse
59. I got on web sites and learned about emotional and mental abuse
60. I got on web sites and learned about Post Traumatic Stress Disorder
61. I kept trying, kept giving “second chances” and kept having hope
62. I became very close to God
63. I learned how to walk with loneliness
64. I learned how to throw pity parties
65. I learned that a spouse is not always patient because THEY need to learn patience!
66. I learned that walking through the fire purifies you
67. I learned that when I feel like God has abandoned me, He is actually carrying me
68. I went to individual counseling with a “guy” counselor and I liked him because he was really blunt, to the point, and thought like a guy <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
69. My H came to the “guy” counselor with me and they hit it off, so I let him keep going to him
70. I switched individual counselors to a lady counselor, and I liked HER even better
71. I participated in and worked on the assignments for the Marriage Builder weekend
72. I found and secured a marriage counselor who would come to our home
73. I did every “homework” assignment for both marriage and individual counseling
74. I discovered a support group for verbally/emotionally abused women in my town
75. I went to that support group and shared with the women
76. I took home the “homework” from the support group and worked on it during the week.
77. I moved out three times when the his abusive behavior became literally intolerable
78. I built my own self-esteem and self-worth
79. I learned that it is Godly to protect my heart, for it is the wellspring of life
80. I learned that it is loving to allow people to feel the consequences of their choices
81. I discovered a brand new concept: BOUNDARIES (what the heck are they?)
82. I find out that all of my boundaries were trampled as a child, so I never developed good personal boundaries!
83. I had to learn what boundaries were from scratch.
84. I practiced boundaries, but it was awkward and clumsy
85. I picked one boundary and stuck with it…”I’m not okay with that”
86. I honored my promises—to myself and to others
87. I was Radically Honest and expected the same from my spouse
88. I vowed to myself I would not tolerate being cheated on again—for my own self-respect
89. I held to that boundary
90. I protected myself and my children

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