You are needed to give Honest Guy a 2 X 4. I know I have gotten on your cases before because you guys can be kind of blunt at times. However I see that the blount approach is just what the Dr. ordered. So to you I say get him. He needs someone to help open his eyes.

Mrs. Lane has been and will likey continue to give him good advice but he will hesitate to use it because he is so unsure of himself. I know they say you can lead a hores to water but you can make them drink, however there is an exception to every rule. I say if you ride his a## long enough and hard enough he is bound to get damn thristy. So you guys have at him.

DIG, you must be kidding?

First off I want to thank you Jim for taking the time to post to HG. I reall appreciate it.

Second ML Why do you think I am kidding. Because of when I said that you have been and proably will continue to give HG good advice.

I don't know unless maybe you get tired of trying to help him fix his situation when he is to scared to try and fix it himself.

How many times have you all had to tell him to expose to everyone? How long has he been hesitating? It's like this Picture a his WW as a bully and him as the kid that want the abuse to stop but to afraid to do somnething about but he really wants to.

WW: Hey boy give me your lunch money.

HG: I don't think that will be a good idea.

WW: I didn't ask you to think I ask you to give me your money now you either do it or I am going to beat the breaks off you.

Know you now that bullies pick on people because they think that if they make you scared enough you will do what they want and you want do anything about.

It is two possible ways this could end.

A.

HG: If you want my lunch money come get it.

WW: (thinking ok no one has ever stood up to me before I don't know what to do so I will stall him). Ok you know what if you don't give me your lunch money right now things are going to get real ugly for you.

HG: From where I am standing they have been that way for a while. As a matter of fact every since you walked up. Want some get some man enough take some.

WW: (I can't believe he is still not scared what will I do?) Ok you know what this time I will let you go but if I see you around here anymore I will make good on my threat.

Or B.

WW: Hey kid give me you lunch money.

HG: I am sorry, what to what did you say?

WW: I said either give me your lunch money or you will be eating my fist for lunch.

HG: (thinking) I am really scared I don't want to give him my lunch money but I am to scared not to I have seen him threaten people before and they always did what he asked and he left them alone.) Ok if I give you my lunch money will you leave me alone?

WW: Yeah look kid I don't have all day are you going to give me the money or do I have to pound you?

HG: Ok here you. I don't want any trouble.

Now in A because he seemed confident enough it made the bully(WW) think twice. So he got her to concede.

However in B. This HG got scared of the threat if he did what he wanted to do and kept his money so he wouldn't be hungry for the rest of the school day. So instead he chose to give the bully(WW) what he wanted so didn't have to make a stand because he didn't know what would happen if he did.

Now which one sounds like HG at the moment? The confident kid in A or the scared one in B? In order to get what he wants he is going to have to go route A. If he don't stand up to his wife because he is afraid of her threats he is going to miss out.

Everyone gets scared at one time or another but being brave is doing what you are scared to do because you know you have to.

So no I guess I am not playing.

DIG, the reason I think you are kidding is because, as you could see, several 2x4s have been levelled at him over the course of this thread. If the first 25 don't work, the next 10 are not likely to work either. And to keep applying 2x4s when a person is not listening is futile.

I just found it amusing that you called on Jim and MEDC to go whack him around when I was posting to him. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

For real, you don't need the poodles when you've already got the PIT BULL!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Mrs. W

No ML I see your point. I just know there approach can be quite to point even if it hurts your feelings they will say it anyway and I think that's what he needed. I am sorry I didn't mean to step on any toes. I know you were giving him good advice. I just thought you were being to nice to get through to him. You know some people like it ruff.

Mrs. W I think he needs a pit bull. So they can lock right on his a)) to make it fight back.

Now that you mention it I guess you can only hope that someone comes along with a stick bigger than the one you got so when they swing it they bring the point home.

That was my point DIG, just what breed do you think ML is? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Mrs. W <~~~ducking <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

DIG, you are exactly right. I just am too soft spoken and timid to wield a 2x4 around here. Perhaps the tough guys, MEDC and Jim, can come in and play tough guy for me and make a difference?

Perhaps I just need some assertive training for women? Can you help me with this?

call in the PIT BULLS!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

It's not that I don't think you are not being assertive enough. I think only a man can raise a man. If you know what I mean. You are telling him exactly what he needs to her but sometimes it takes a man to get through to a man cause they speak the same language.

Remember Women are from Venus and Men or from Mars. Something like that. I think you are a wise lady along with all the other ladies on this board but I think only Big K, Medc or Jimmy boy got the nads to shake some sense into him.

Sorry if I forgot to call out Big K before. Come guys we opened the gate now ATTAAAAACK!!!!

Mrs. W I am sorry to say that I will have to wait until tomorrow to go to Hal's. My H didn't get in until 3:30 and he woke up early so he could spend time with us and now he is tired and wants to stay in. However come rain or hail I will go tomorrow if I have to go by myself. LOL

BTW you don't have to duck I think ML knows she can handle her own.

I don't know about that, I think I need to learn some assertive training from dem fellas! I am just too dang timid, sigh...... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

BigK, can you help????

I have to say I like the women of this board. You are all very lively. The world would be definitely boring without you guys. I think I may need a class or two on how to dish out a proper tube of four.

Ok guys when do your classes start? Sign me and ML up. Any other takers?

I know it! those boys have NADS alright! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Mel<---back to her usual timid self LOL

THATS RIGHT, GUYS, WHEN DO OUR ASSERTIVE TRAINING CLASSES START?? I want to be first in line! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

what is a "tube of four?"

proper tube of four.

Hey...I could use one of those at time...and maybe even a "tube of six".

Can you get them things at Home De-pot?

committed

That's how the good ole boys on you might be a red neck if you... say 2 X 4. Come on Mel where have you been? LOL

bwahahahaaa! can you help me with my assertiveness problem, girl?

OH WAIT, you are a girl, never mind! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

Hey C&L I have to admit I do to. That's the only thing that can get through to my hard head at times.

Mel you are to much. Hey Mrs W is missing out on the party. Where did she go? Is she still hacking it out with Aprodite? Some need a TUBE of 8 <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />