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I'd say no. He'll likely screen your call. Or lie. And it could appear that you are harassing him.
I think the best you can do is document the violation of your agreement. But getting terms like that enforced sounds hard. (E.g., Your WW could just claim exceptional/unforeseen circumstances.)
I'm sorry for the mess you're in. But look at how messed up your wife is. What kind of life is she going to have going forward?
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So I called the kids and just said hey if you want to go to the movies or something let me know, mom is going to be gone for a while and you guys can come hang out.... well about 2pm they called and we went to Nancy Drew...
I also confirmed that the guy was with her on her little trip.
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So my kids told me that WW let them destroy OM3 blackberry that he gave her last summer to carry on their affair, so I thought it was an opportunity to see if he would open up with some details about their relationship and hopefully provide some closure and information for our upcoming custody case... here is what he wrote.
VR, Yes, I am doing just fine. Not sure what lies she would be talking about not to mention what I would gain by doing so but whatever. As far as harassment goes, no thats not me. I simply requested she send back the Blackberry and she flipped out. I find it disturbing that she would show her children that type of hostility by smashing a Blackberry. Not to mention distruction of property. Thats okay... You will find your phone at the bottom of the lake at your old house. That was her doing. As far as this other guy goes. This does not suprise me at all. I laughed when I saw his picture. WW seems to have the need to be loved. It does not seem to matter who the person is. She has unrealistic dreams which I could not deal with any longer. Truth be told I elected to end things not because of the incident where you emailed my work (Which was completely out of line by the way) but because I know she was seeking to move here at some point and I knew that just was not a good idea or in the best interest of your kids or myself for that matter. I always stood firm saying that all children need there dad. I would be a little upset if my ex-wife decided to move out of the state with my kids. I just wouldnt happen. There was a case here in NY about a woman who remarried and her husband was some top exec with some toy company and she tried to move the kids out of the state and the guy took her to court and he won. The judge told her that she could move anywhere she wanted but if she choose to move then she would leave the kids with him. She had to decide. (I can't stop laughing at this guys photo.) Truth be told I am glad all this played out the way it did. I was able to close a chapter in my life that has always haunted me. I know now what the right thing to do was. You did some really messed up things which I really dont care to discuss but at the same time she pissed me off by destroying the Blackberry. Either way, I don't think it would be right to "join forces". As I said earlier kids need their dad but at the same time they need their mom. You 2 need to find a way to co-exist for the kids. Move on... Why in the world would you want to get her back being the way she is? She does need some sort of help for her issues. I think she is under some mental stress. Maybe from all the things going on. Divorce is hard. She seems to ignore everyone and everything else when she gets wrapped up in a relationship. I didnt like that at all. I always had to ground her. Tell her "Hey... Kids first." I have my own issues. Thankfully my divorce is very calm and we agree that anything we do is in the best interest of the kids. My son and daughter seem to appreciate that. They are taking it very well. Well thats all for now. I wish you the best of luck but I urge you to rethink your fight for full custody. I would rather see you 2 be able to raise them together as mom and dad even if you cant do that as husband and wife. OM3
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Vike,
Can you use this letter in court.....Damaging stuff from her soulmate regarding "WW seems to have the need to be loved. It does not seem to matter who the person is. She has unrealistic dreams which I could not deal with any longer" AND
"She does need some sort of help for her issues. I think she is under some mental stress. Maybe from all the things going on. Divorce is hard. She seems to ignore everyone and everything else when she gets wrapped up in a relationship. I didnt like that at all. I always had to ground her. Tell her "Hey... Kids first."
I hope you can. AND, for what it's worth I am glad I fought for full custody of our son because his mom has already significantly hurt our step daughter's life with her poor decision making in the past and I will not and did not want to see it happen to my son. WW is not stable or a capable mom at this point.
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I don't think directly, but I am going to share it with the kids counselor and she will eventually be in court as a children's advocate.
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I received another email from him..
I had asked --- Do you think she would have tried and tricked you into having a baby? ie getting pregnant on purpose to force you into a relationship?
He said --- No doubt! More-so now that I know how she is
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I received a Motion to Withdraw filed by WW ATTY. I got in the mail this evening. There was no notice of hearing so I do not know when it will be scheduled for hearing. There was also no Acceptance of Service as I had requested.
So we have custody hearing in July and possible alimony trial in august and her attorney wants another retainer, guess she doesn't like WW.
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I know that I'm showing my ignorance here but: What is a Motion to Withdrawl? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
Is you WW trying to stop the D?
WTF
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No wayward is very lost in not only affair fog but mental disorder fog..... No her lawyer wants to quite, its the process in which a lawyer notifies all parties, my attorney and the court that she will no longer be representing my WW.
So that has a couple of pro's and con's as I see it.
1) Leaves WW with no legal counsel
2) Leaves me with no channel to get her to act - she doesn't talk to me or anyone else
3) A new lawyer will want to be more aggressive as he is new, could lead for some nasty tactics
4) The old lawyer is signing the acceptance of the divorce petition - so the D is still on track for end of july
5) New lawyer will have no history of the lies WW has already spewed.
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What it means is that the lawyer has fired his client.
She will have to retain another lawyer. Likely the attorney wanted to get paid, and she didn't pay him.
The new (if she gets one) attorney will demand an upfront retainer. He or she will also be very wary about your wife keeping up with the payments after he/she is substituted in.
Or, your wife could go in pro per (in her own place as a lawyer.) In which case, she will have a fool for a client.
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Or, your wife could go in pro per (in her own place as a lawyer.) In which case, she will have a fool for a client. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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Thank you all.
My ignorance has been replaced with knowledge! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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VR,
Why in the name of God are you communicating with your WW's OM? His message was insulting, condescending and more than a little arrogant!
I feel this note trivializes and demeans the efforts you have made to save your M.
Remember that the enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend!
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You believe easily what you hope for ernestly
Infidelity does not kill marriages, the lying does
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Well, VR - I don't think my opportunity has knocked yet - it may not... but that's another posting.
Interesting that you WW's atty quit. I don't know how large a town you live in, but if it's anything like here, all the attorneys are chums, and word will get around - WW may have a hard time getting another attorney... And if she does it may come at a high price.
Hope everything works out for you - sounds like a heck of a mess <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
JinGA
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DDay his EA May 1998.
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8/24/07 Went on a date with someone new, "B".
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Well it was about money and her ATTY was tired of the constant .. nagging make my BH stop making me a good parent, routine.
So now another Soap update....
When I picked the girls up friday for my week with them, they informed me that Mom was going to Carpet Boys's parent beach house this weekend to meet his parents.
Now this is a guy she has only been seeing and talking to for 3 weeks. One of those weeks she had the kids so it was just phone conversation.
Also this weekend, the kids and I helped move my Ex's friends from her old house to her new house. Something my Ex said she would help with
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