Mel... you were given the facts I have. You are choosing to ignore them..... perhaps you killed a few too many brain cells back in the day since you are having a problem speaking the truth and being honest about what was said.

MEDC, first off, Dr. Harley DOES NOT DO phone counseling. He charges NOTHING to call into his show. He charges nothing to counsel folks by email.

I still do not see "FACTS" to back up your assertions about Dr. Harley:

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MEDC: The harley's make a lot of money(and good for them) by having nice little catch phrases about how every marriage is vulnerable to infidelity. Just like Dr. Phil makes a ton of money on his ways too. This is a business first and foremost and don't believe for one second that the Harley's don't know what does and does not maximize profit.


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I would like to see EVIDENCE of how much the Harleys make off their little so called "catch phrases" and evidence of what he does or doesn't know about maximizing his profit here.

still waiting for them "facts!"

a catch phrase or a slogan is designed to draw attention - yet you would struggle to find said catchphrase in any visible place on this web site - it's buried in a few articles.

I'd say the $185 is about 0.1% of the cost of a divorce though - if not less. So what is your point MEDC?

Believer.... we rarely agree.... do you see the words that Mel is speaking of??? Did I call the man a fraud??? Did I say he wants people to have affairs to make a buck??? Am I crazy.... am I really missing those words here... because I really do not see them.

What I see is, I questioned the very high fees. I said they are not a ministry and that this is a business, bottom line.

I can always count on you for honesty... even when we don't agree.

Omigosh it's time for Believers regularly scheduled conspiracy posts.

The words are all right here. Anyone can look back and see what was said. But, oops again, they might get edited.

And no, you and I very seldom agree, but you are an honorable and trustworthy man.

I must have missed it with my alcohol addled brain. Perhaps you would like to post your "facts" again that show EXACTLY how much the Harleys make off their little so called "catch phrases" and evidence of what he does or doesn't know about "maximizing his profit here."

I seem to have missed that post where you substantianted your assertions with FACTS.



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The harley's make a lot of money(and good for them) by having nice little catch phrases about how every marriage is vulnerable to infidelity. Just like Dr. Phil makes a ton of money on his ways too. This is a business first and foremost and don't believe for one second that the Harley's don't know what does and does not maximize profit.

because of course, I am incapable of forming my own opinion. LOL.

Building an Affair proof marriage is one that comes to mind BK(HNHN)... right on front of the book. Makes sense to sell the book...good business.

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still waiting on that evidence.....................

Why would someone write a book with the intention of not selling it?

Evangelists believe in their cause. They all use catch phrases to get peoples' attention. Why condemn a person for using language to communicate?

I don't really have a dog in this fight but this is just weird. Do you recommend an author try to make his book less marketable so that other authors will have a better chance?

If I truly believe in what I'm doing, I will use every tool at my disposal to convince others of that. I do it every single day in business.

Mel... you are but a liar. You are playing games that I have seen you play countless times here. I will not play your games. Your questions were asked and answered.


Believer and I may not see eye to eye, but she is also a person of character...always has been, even when we have disagreed.... frequently.

But never and I mean never, cross the queen of MB. She will twist, lie and manipulate to prove a point that doesn't exist.

Pio... you misunderstand... I think he should sell his book to the hilt....

I just don't believe this is a ministry. I think he should use all the catch phrases he can.... business is business....marketing is marketing.

Well said, piojitos. It is bizarre to condemn someone for trying to get a valuable, effective service to the most people possible and make money doing it. That does not mean the person is greedy or only out to make a buck. Dr. Harley has an INVALUABLE MESSAGE that has helped untold people. [much more than MEDC]

Why wouldn't he try his best to get that message out everywhere if it can help people? And what is wrong with getting paid for that service?

Even so, Dr. Harley very generously gives away his time and resources. They give away books all the time.

And neither does anyone else, so what in the world are you talking about?

Calling me a "liar" will not serve to substantiate your baseless assertions, MEDC. You can call me every name in the book, it won't help ya, pal.

Still awaiting those facts..........

Hey Mel.. I have literally saved peoples lives...I think my contribution to the world is safe from the likes of an ex drunk that put herself and others at risk. I've walked into burning buildings....saved children from abusive families....fostered a child in need of a home....
what have you done???

Oh, that's right, you sell soft drinks and shop.

MEDC,

I'm not taking sides here. I just don't get what this argument is really about. My guess is that there is something underneath that isn't being said. I admire your spirit though.