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funny...but on the very first day you were here I offered advice to you....that appeared to be what you were here for..and you received it.

and FTR, we do not have the ability to run anyone off... they can choose to stay or go...those that genuinely want help here, get it...free of charge.

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I have been reading here for more than a couple of weeks and i think the same people are either nice or nasty there is no in between for them, no trying to see anyone else's point of view, just arguing over stuff instead of offering advice to people which is why they come here to begin with.

Do you think I'm nice or nasty???


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"agree to disagree" = Used when one wants to reject the objective reality of the situation and hopefully replace it with their own.
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I think you are nice. You offer your opinion and ask questions if you do not understand what the poster is asking.

All I am saying is that we all interpret things differently. I work in a field that is very regulated by the FDA (heck we practically have a procedure to tell us how to go to the bathroom LOL). NHQ writes procedures for us to follow to adhere to these regulations. Ten different people in my company can read those procedures and all of them have a different interpretation of what they are telling us to do.

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MEDC:

You have too much hair to be Curly.

SC:

Your point about running people off?

No, anyone can stay here. Or go.

This is a great big pot of soup. Sometimes it gets to salty.

Reregistering as another poster can not be condoned. It must be discouraged at all costs.

If LtK reregistered? Then so be it. Something for him to address.

Was LtK reasonable? From his earlier posts, I still think so.

Yes, he had a hissy fit. Sometimes, somethings around here just can strike a person as wrong. And maybe the Sad thread struck him as wrong.

And then his view of this place changed. The soup got salty.

And he decided to go.

His choice. He still has issues in his marriage. That we would be willing to help him fix. But that's his choice.

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I know LG...but between you, me and Mr W...somebody has to shave their head!

Hey Mo!

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Sadmom's thread struck me wrong too, but I'm still here. I can get a little excited along with the best of them. But I won't take it personally.

People are just plain ole people. That's cool. It takes all kinds. What would this forum be like if we ALL thought exactly the same way? Boring and not much help to anyone. But most of us believe in MarriageBuilders.com and no troll, newbie or OP will convince us otherwise.

But then you have those who consider themselves to be the "best advisor." Okay. I won't go there.

LTK, if you're still reading, I agree. That thread DID need to be deleted. It wasn't helpful. Heck, my thread got locked. (My very first lock!) <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Sometimes discussions go nowhere and become pointless... like those.

So you can pout and stay away or come back and move on. Your choice.


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Plus he re-registers and posts to himself.

Justuss said "thanks LTK" to DFsLuLu which I take to mean DFsLuLu WAS LTK.

Here is DFsLuLu's last remaining post (I presume the other 2 were deleted by Justuss and maybe this one will be soon and if so I apologize for re-posting it...I am NOT trying to stir up trouble it's just funny to read in context KNOWING that DFsLuLu is also LTcosmo and he posted to support himself in such a way)

My intent is strictly for humor. Delete this post if you want.

I thought it might be him.

LOL

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Disciple???

Can I be Mo!!!

Mr. W

Mr. W and MEDC-- aren't the disciples called Matthew, Mark, Luke...? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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PM...are you missing that LTK was posting as several different people...pretending to offer support to each of his alias? As of right now...I count three among the mysteriously missing since LTK's little tirade about Justuss. It could absolutely be a coincidence...but we have seen this before.

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no, John, Paul and Ringo!

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LOL...another "Cybil"???

They seem to creep up about one major one per year around here.

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and "they" are always garnering support and supporting "one another." It is and has always been a plan to cause division in our camp here.

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PM...are you missing that LTK was posting as several different people...pretending to offer support to each of his alias? As of right now...I count three among the mysteriously missing since LTK's little tirade about Justuss. It could absolutely be a coincidence...but we have seen this before.

You mean he was doing this all along?!?! I thought he just invented new people in the heat of the moment to "support" his view after the p**p hit the fan (which is pretty dumb since a person's writing style can ID them eventually). Wow. If that's not the case, then good riddance. I certainly won't miss that... him... them... that... him... them... LOL


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Is this fact, or speculation?

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well, I would say that as of right now... a bit of both. Speculation on the number of alias...fact that there was more than just LTK.

Again...some posters that have been quite vocal(and supportive of LTK) of late seem to also be missing today. Doesn't yet prove anything...but based on some of our experience here...it is telling. We have seen this several times before.

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MEDC,

I know and understand what your saying. I just find it all boils down to starting rumors. And regardless of right or wrong. My take is it's inappropriate for one poster to do this to another. It's just disrespectful.

Is there really "proof" to LTK having multiple ID's? Did an admin verify dupe IP's?

I guess it just bugs me seeing the recent poster-to-poster rumor mill lately. I looks more like one person trying to discredit another, more than having a concern for well being of the forum.

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I don't need to discredit LTK...he did that himself with his tirade against Justuss and by spamming a private email.

Admin would not verify that....it is based on experience here and having seen this other times in the past....in addition to the comment that was pointed out earlier on this thread.

Look, if you choose to not believe it, that is fine. For me...the proof is in the results....you may see things differently.

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It would appear that some don't know the difference between a disciple and a stooge, but in this case, that appears to be a distinction without a difference. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

IMHO, regarding fact vs. speculation ... if we look at the threads involved and the outlandish jumping to conclusions that we've witnessed, that if the disciples think that LTKramer was using multiple alias's, then I'd have to go with PURE SPECULATION based on their past patterns.

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Now play nice Myrev. I would hate to see this deteriorate into a big issue between us.

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I know LG...but between you, me and Mr W...somebody has to shave their head!

NOT MR. W!!! NO WAY!!! I vote for LG, he's blonde, shaving his head will increase his I.Q. at least 10 points, right? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Mrs. W<~~~A Fellow Blonde <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

P.S. It's not complete speculation that LTK and DFsLuLu were one and the same...It was based on Justuss posting "Thanks LTK" on one of DFsLulu's edited posts...Certainly we may have misunderstood Justuss on that...dunno...


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