No she stays busy with the kids and all and has friends that she has play dates with, conversations on the tele.

I commented on how nice she was dressed this morning before I started my 1.5 hour drive to work. She blew it off, but I am sure that she is going to stop by OM house again this morning.

Patience is a virtue

Thanks Suam,

Monitored conversation between her and her girlfriend

Thanks for the comments MW and Pariah.

No pun, insult intended for those who viewed my post. As stated, I was appreciative to those who responded in kind.

No sense in me posting if the internet police delete my comments. Being the chivalristic man that I am, I felt compelled to come to sadwifes aid *****edit****making what I consider to be unwarranted and horrible comments about her situation instead of giving her recommendations reflected on MB.

****edit********I simply pointed to the fact and was "snuffed out" IMHO, the post that they made were far from the recommendations and teaching anaologies here on MB. Obviously the moderator did not feel the same and IMHO was extremely biased in editing my comments.

In saying so, be careful with your post above or you will be subjected to the same treatment <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

"A fact is a fact, and if it looks like a Snake, then it probably is"

My story -
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In 2003 I returned from a two week annual training exercise with one thing on my mind. However, upon my return found my wife slighlty intoxicated and ultimately did not experience any intimate relations with her that night. The next day I overheard her talking to a girlfriend telling her what a "crummy husband and father" I was. I confronted her and it resulted in a huge argument that lasted for days. Eventually when we made up and were able to spend some intimate time together, she communicated to me that she no longer wanted to have "oral sex". I interpreted this as not wanting to give anymore BJ's.
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No big deal. A few days later, I proceeded to go down on her and she interupted me and again stated that she did not want to have any oral sex. Of course, I had to inquire (as my cunningless talents are beyond repore). She state that "just because she enjoyed it did not make it right".
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Our relationship immediately started to diminish and she dictated that we would no longer have sex at night, after drinking and only during am hours before the kids awoke.
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That was five years ago and things have continued to decline. Now I am lucky to get laid 2 times per month and it usually consist of her lying on her back spreading her legs and 5-10 minutes later the episode is over.
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I initially had doubts when I discovered that she could no longer look into my eyes (Constantly looked away), I consider the eyes to be the "key hole to the sole". At any rate, I started paying a little more close attention to small things in the house and discovered that when I return home there is not ONE pair of dirty undergarments in the house, NEVER!.
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I work out of town during the week but sometimes manage to get home more than just on the weekends and still have not found any drity or soiled undergarments (maybe I am mad or reaching for straws). At any rate, when I return home unannounced it does seem to irritate her.
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I monitor her phone calls and have overheard her talking with her sister about me returning unannounced really bothering her "makes her feel as though I am trying to sneak up on her etc". In addition, she constantly communicates her dissatisfaction with our sex relationship and even stated that if she never had to have sex again it would not bother her at all.
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At this point as with other men's post I am really confused about where this is at and where this is going.
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Point:
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1) She presents herslef as a "God Fearing Catholic" goes to church every sunday.
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2) With the young ones in the home, I have difficulty in believing that she has the opportunity for an affair.
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3) In addition, her being a full time stay at home mother would give her limited time available as well. (we have very nosy neighbors that would report any strange occurances while I am away)
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Concerns:
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1) I personally think that something did occur five years agao when all this started. (To drastic of a change in our relationship) so maybe the guilt has been hanging on?
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3) Do not have any concrete evidence that something has or is occurring.
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Question:
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If my wife is displaying many of the characteristics that is she really having an affair?
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Would religious affiliations make a difference?
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We have had two serious discussions within the last three weeks attempting to find out what has brought on the changes. I was told two weeks agao that the reasons for the changes was "because she had lost respect for me related to poor decisions related to career moves".
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Then last Sunday she tells me that the reason was "In my 20's, I was a slut and felt like nothing more than a P-ssy and t-ts, and she had finally able to develop some some esteem" and decided that she no longer wanted those things anymore".
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Leaves me hanging? Anybody able to shed any light on my delema?
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I know that this is lengthy post (sorry), I would appreciate any feedbak and thank you for your time and consideration.
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Me 49 W 45
Married 14 yrs
Daughter 6, Son 5
Deception and Lies (General II)

*you just gotta know how to do it without being edited. It takes years of practice.