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Here is a post from Laura_Lee that seems to summarize the whole situation: http://www.marriagebuilders.com/ubbt/sho...true#Post456535
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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Pariah, Laura/Back is ill. Christianity has nothing to do with her behavior.
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Laura/Back..whoever she is at any given moment is ill,IMO.
She's certainly not functioning in a healthy manner.
Folks that are mentally ill certainly aren't ALL necessarily likeable.
I feel like it is MEAN to be so harsh towards her.
Reading her latest posts, I do feel like it is starting to be hurtful to her.
I wish there was a way for us to HELP her.
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Pariah...do you have an issue with Christian's? If so, I suggest you keep it to yourself. The world is full of people spouting off false religious beliefs for their benefit. I have an issue with hypocrites spouting sanctamonious garbage. When your church has thrown you away because your spouse is divorcing you, lemme know, then you might have some room to tell me to hush. Wether this Laura person is "ill" or not, she is doing a great disservice to true Christians.
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I don't agree that she is doing a disservice to Christians.
People who call themselves Christians and are being mean to her are doing a disservice to Christians, IMO.
Would Jesus treat BACK in this fashion?
And as a Christian, yes, I am evaluating myself as we speak.
I woke up this morning, wanting to reach out to her in some way.
I get the sense last night that she was struggling because of what was being said.
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Mimi, I know what you mean, I feel bad for her too. But I know we can't help her here. Her problems are way beyond our ability to address.
My greater concern is the damage she CAUSES here. In case anyone hasn't noticed, we have some people here who are very upset at back's abuse and have considered leaving. And yes, she has been very abusive to board members. She is a major distraction on a forum that is full of newcomers in crisis.
THAT is my greatest concern. So I think its more important that folks understand the truth about this person so that she stays somewhat neutralized.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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btw, all wifetobe did was state a true fact based on back's previous posts, it makes no sense to shoot the messenger. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
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But ganging up against her is not going to help.
Others have to take responsibility for their own choices for leaving because of her.
She doesn't or shouldn't be given the POWER to make a person leave the forum.
They are making THE CHOICE to leave.
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When your church has thrown you away because your spouse is divorcing you, lemme know, then you might have some room to tell me to hush Okay, so I guess I have room to tell you then Pariah. I was raised catholic and was told by my priest that it was time to let my marriage go...that she wasn't coming back. I refused to be a hypocrite and go through an annulment process that would basically suggest that my marriage never existed(that and oh, don't forget their $900). So, i have room to talk. But what I did was not be a hater because of what some PERSON did to me. Christianity of based on my faith in CHRIST...not some man wearing a robe.
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People who call themselves Christians and are being mean to her are doing a disservice to Christians, IMO.
Would Jesus treat BACK in this fashion? I agree with you, Mimi. I don't understand how people who have posted that they think she may have mental issues, can with good conscience purposely poke her with sticks and sarcastically laugh while doing so.
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I don't agree that she is doing a disservice to Christians.
People who call themselves Christians and are being mean to her are doing a disservice to Christians, IMO.
Would Jesus treat BACK in this fashion? It's a shame there's not more kindness shown here. This thread leaves a lot to be desired. Has it been established this is the same person? Has it been established this person is ill? Sounds like unfounded evidence Smells like blood Looks like a feeding frenzy
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People who call themselves Christians and are being mean to her are doing a disservice to Christians, IMO. You are entitled to your opinion. I know evil when I see it. It will pull at your emotions to snare you. Evil isn't a monster, it makes itself beautiful and irresistable. Would Jesus treat BACK in this fashion? He would tell her to go and sin no more and if she refused, he would tell all about the consequences of denying him. And as a Christian, yes, I am evaluating myself as we speak.
I woke up this morning, wanting to reach out to her in some way. And you are supposed to let go those given over to a reprobate mind. I get the sense last night that she was struggling because of what was being said. What she wants is approval for what she deems as "her's". And she ain't gettin it.
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Mimi, not everyone agrees with the mental health assessment of Back. I think she is just here amusing herself. Do I think she is a wacko...yes...but only because she gets off amusing herself in this fashion, not because I believe for one minute that she is delusional.
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Mel:
IMO, we should speak to the folks that are wanting to leave because of her and try to encourage them not to go..not focus on BACK.
That was the intended purpose of the thread DELIVER US FROM EVIL.
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But ganging up against her is not going to help.
Others have to take responsibility for their own choices for leaving because of her.
She doesn't or shouldn't be given the POWER to make a person leave the forum.
They are making THE CHOICE to leave. I agree, it is always the persons choice to leave. That does not erase the fact that Laura is abusive and is causing damage here to others. Her mental illness does not entitle her to run rampant here. We don't let the lunatics run the asylum. Folks need to understand who she really is. And frankly, I have not seen this "ganging up," folks have been much more patient with her than they probably should have been.
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Mel:
IMO, we should speak to the folks that are wanting to leave because of her and try to encourage them not to go..not focus on BACK.
That was the intended purpose of the thread DELIVER US FROM EVIL. Yes, I agree and have been doing the same.
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We don't let the lunatics run the asylum. I'm feeling a bias against the mentally ill. This sounds pejorative.
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Wait a minute, it is "MEAN" to expose the truth about WHO back really is? C'mon, people that is just silly. There is nothing mean about revealng the truth.
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We don't let the lunatics run the asylum. I'm feeling a bias against the mentally ill. This sounds prejorative. I am feeling some very misplaced compassion in the matter of back.
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How can you say this when you have mocked her repeatedly? How does feeling bad for someone translate into treating them with disdain over multiple threads and multiple posts? THAT is my greatest concern. So I think its more important that folks understand the truth about this person so that she stays somewhat neutralized. I don't understand why it is acceptable to use abuse to neutralize someone you think is abusive.
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