Orchid...

May I remind you who started this thread...and the troll thread...and the other thread to chat with Back/Laura_Lee??? Tell me who is fueling this?

Mrs. W

Thank you Mrs W.

So what exactly WAS the intent?


Ohhhhhh so WHO started this thread anyway?


It's a shame you can't control who posts what isn't it?

Orchid - These few posts have been taking up MOST of the posting today and yesterday. There are lots of hurting people who are getting NO HELP. ENOUGH.

Orchid, why not knock it off? give it a rest, please.

"I can't imagine what the people reading here who haven't yet posted think about this bickering!!!!!!! Sad, sad, sad."

I'm a total newbie here, trying to decide if I want to stick around. On the one hand, everyone here is super intelligent and writes thoughtfully, and I may have some help to offer as a FWW.

On the other hand, though: I have never seen such an wacky bunch of troll-feeders in my life! Biggest rule of the internet - don't feed them! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

You guys seem to have a really great community here. I think it would be a shame to let someone with (imho) cracked ideas about covenant betrothals put a tarnish on it.

I'm going to get back to not responding to this issue, with a thought:

"Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you." Matthew 7:6

peace and strength...

Very well said, Maggie. Hope you stick around. This stuff happens from time to time and then everyone gets back to MARRIAGEBUILDING.

And PS we desperately need FWW's here. There are only a few, one of which I greatly admire, but am right now arguing with.

Yes, I started those threads AFTER all the bickering had been going on for a while.

Didn't you all read WHY I started those threads? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Maybe it is NOT worth trying to get us back on track. What was I thinking>!?!?!? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> Appealing to your sense of reason may not be a good idea.... I thought it was. I apologize.

You all keep your bickering. Hold on tight to how you communicate because that is what you believe in and that is your right. Even if it discourages more than encourages, continue to do so because again bickering, fault finding and jumping to inaccurate conclusions seems to be important to some right now. Is that how you want to be remembered?

I tried real hard to find the proof to back some of your charges. I researched well into the late hours of the night doing so, even when I wasn't feeling well. I didn't find enough proof. Yea....I read about Laura Lee in the past..... could she be BACk? I don't know. So I can't agree or disagree at this point.... That is one of the reasons why I asked BACK to post to me. Some of you didn't even give me a chance to find out things that might have been helpful. Seems if I didn't jump on YOUR brand of POV, I was against it all. I wasn't then nor now. But that appears to be the prevailing thought among some so go ahead and hang onto that thought. It ain't true but I am too exhausted to reason with you guys anymore.

It will certainly change how MB is viewed out there in the cyber world.

Bye,
L.

Thanks, believer.

I want to help as a way to pay back for some of the hurt I've caused.

That's great! And I promise you it isn't usually like this here. We'll get back to normal.

There are many, many folks looking toward the FWW for thoughts and advice, and you would do a good thing by sticking around and pitching in.

well, yes it does...but hopefully you have decided to change your ways and won't act this way any longer.

Well Orchid she certainly responded to the posts that called her Laura_Lee...And when she was called MW77 she was quick to say she wasn't her...The similarities between the posts of back and Laura_Lee are ABUNDANT...Sorry you weren't able to find them...Here are a few...

Both Americans that use the spelling "practise"

Both used the phrase "walk it out" in quotes

Both used " " CONSTANTLY on many of the same phrases and words

Both had identical religious views

Both made mention of the Promise Keepers

Both had DDs the same age that married young

Both adored the young son-in-law

Both talked about how others viewed them as so young looking

This list goes on and on...but I will stop...I am SURE they are the same person...

Mrs. W

It was the same person, you could easily tell by the writing style.

Medc,

My posts convey this to you?

<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

Please share where your find this to be true. I will certainly address it.

L.

Mrs. W & Mel,

Thank you for your input. I appreciate you showing how you came to this conclusion.

From the posts of Laura Lee years ago and now, do you see any progress or the same justification?

L.

Dear Orchid,

The growing problem on the boards is simple.

The need to be RIGHT has become the overarching aim of people from every side of the debate.

It's gotten nasty, abusive, and downright embarrassing.

I realize that you started this thread with the hope that people would step back and examine their own contributions to the problem (and there is enough to go around on all sides), but currently being RIGHT is more important, so a thread like this will only polarize people further and result in more finger pointing.

Frankly, I'm disgusted. I don't really believe I have much to offer the boards these days, which is why I've pretty much quit posting.

What's the point?

I think that this is the best indication we've had yet that this board has taken a serious turn for the worse recently.

Two of the longest time posters on this forum, both with 10's of thousands of posts are now both agreeing that the insults, personal attacks, etc... is getting completely out of hand.

I hope that the board OWNERS see this and the message that it sends.

I think it might also be helpful to stop starting threads about controversial topics. They tend to cause.........controversy.

If a controversial thread gets locked because it is too controversial, it makes no sense to begin a new one to discuss the controversy and then act surprised when there is more.........controversy.. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

Wouldn't it be more productive to let things die down instead of stirring up more controversy? Maybe we could actually get back to the board's purpose, which is helping people. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Why not write the board owners so they will see it? Everyone is free to do that. I am convinced that hashing this out on the board is clearly not working. Add me to the list of OTs who feels bewildered by the current climate.