Hopefully he's sleeping and not up all full of anxiety like I am. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

I think I'm going to try to hit the sack too myself. Right after you answer my post. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Good morning ladies... Amazing what sleep can do to improve your mood. After that last post I picked up love must be tough and didn't make it through one page and was out cold.
With believer giving me my weekly stop whining you silly Canadian and cowboy up smack down last night (Your amazing B, you get it done in less than ten words)
I pray that you are right one this one B, right now her poker face is so good I can get any kind of read that tells me that she won’t.
Her normal hair dresser moved locations and I think she's working from home, but I know where she normally goes, so I think I will go with that idea.
I know the darn stinkin thinkin will creep up on me until I get a chance to see the neighbor and see OM's face book page.

I'll be on and off today, got the auditors coming in for the final inventory reconciliation, so that's always fun (I wish they would send me one with a little sense of humor).

your situation is so full of hope..... me and the munchkin are rooting for you and your family.....i keep lurking but not much to say lately.... i hope all goes well with work.

Why does it seem that I can't (or won't) see the same level of hope that everybody else seems to? Am I being too self critical? Trying to protect myself from being crushed if it doesn't happen? Just stupid? What am I missing?

My friends understand what I'm doing and why, but don't necessarily agree and think I should be taking much more of a tough love approach. (Her BF told me last night that I should have gone on that date, but understood my position and why I didn't)

Queenie... I really need to give you a little different list this morning... the things I DON'T like about me. Not as a self pity thing but as acknowledgement of the things I want to work on for me.

1. I don't like my short fuse. Something I never had an issue with before I had kids.
2. I don't like large social gatherings. I do not mind being the center of attention when in a small intimate group of friends, but in larger situations especially in work situations I get really anxious.
3. I don't like that I am more pessimistic than optimistic.
4. I don't like that I procrastinate on big home projects and take too long to get them finished once I start.
5. I don't like that I get anxious easily.

So I need to look at this now and think about it for a while.

I know what you mean TMTS.... but in your case we are looking from the outside in and from what you are telling us there is hope...... i know what you mean i feel like i have zero hope and everyone around me says i am being a doormatt for being nice to my WH and doing a tough love thing. I am afraid that that will only push him farther away. But you are doing great and i can't wait to hear what the neighbor has to tell you if you see them today.

Yes, I hope to get home before WW does.She went a the menonite village with the kids, and that is usually a day long shopping excursion. But like beleiver says the fact that he has moved on is good. I am extremly curious to find out what was said to her last night.

Nope, unacceptable language.... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Geit rid of the stinkin thinkin...

How about, these are the things I WANT to change or improve about myself. It essentially means the same, but then again its more positive and we NEED to learn to be positive about WHATEVER G-d gives us right now because they are all blessings.

What is going on over with your WW is positive, but there isn't anything you can do, but be still.... and pray....

Let me know if you need examples of what I mean from the list you gave me. I can do that, but I don't want to fix you, I want you to learn to see the difference. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

TMTS =

Remember - this week has to be a flawless and the best Plan A so far. Don't be surprise or caught up in the latest drama of OM and new GF.

Another point to a great Plan A is that you want her to experience WD from you when she separates her self from the family. From the sounds of it - this could be one of the factors that breaks this cycle.

TMTS, where are you dude?

Hi All,

Just been a busy day (Inventory with new software).
Ok Queenie, you're right, not things I don't like but things I either am or making plans to work on.

Well I haven't talked to the neighbor as she has not been home all day so I don't know what went down between her and WW last night.

Tonight was actually very nice. after supper she was laying on the couch and one of the cats was sleeping at her feet, so as to not disturb the cat I asked if I could sit beside her, she said sure, and moved her legs and was about to spin to put her feet on the floor, but I told her that she could just lay her legs back down on mine. well being the opportunistic Plan Aer that you have all taught me to be, I massaged her feet and rubbed her legs as we watched a movie with ODD. Afterwards I asked her if she wanted to play something on the playstation, and she said that she wanted to play guitar hero. So we did that for almost two hours, where she then laid down and fell asleep about an hour ago.

I was talking to ODD afterwards and asked her if she thought that her M was acting like someone that didn't love me. She laughed and said no she doesn’t and it didn't make sense to her.

I will keep an eye on the neighbor tomorrow and try to go see her so that I can at least see what she was telling me about on his face book page. Until then run my plays and run the plan.

I do have a question though... Is there a point to going to Plan B if the affair has in fact ended?

I have NO CLUE, but isn't Plan B about protecting the love you have for your WS. So if you are in danger of losing that love.....then.....

Finally - I've been waiting for an update on your thread. Not that mine hasn't been all that exciting today. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

It sounds like you had a nice "Plan A" evening. I have to admit, I'm a little jealous. Very nicely done, though!

I'm also interested to hear what the neighbor says.

that's true, I forgot about that part of it. Doh... that's the main reason for doing it.

I think so, but I haven't gotten there yet. I'm on my way....

I keep avoiding my PBL....What's that about.

See that’s the thing, she doesn’t reciprocate it, but she doesn't pull away or act like it's uncomfortable when I do show affection. I think I see little signs of melting when I stroke her hair. LOL

I've got to keep believing that this is somehow sinking into her subconscious.

Mark - So how'd you make out? Or do you do like we do when we go ice fishing and bring a portable BBQ and steak. LOL

You know the answer to this, and you don't want to accept that you need to go there. I suspect I will do the same.

Just a little response to your question:



Good point - its over with this OM but the wayward behaviour is still there. You may not have to go that far though & if you do - its down the road. You seem to have more energy and have a handle on things currently.

Personally I think you have a personality that she will miss very quickly. Everyone can see it on the forum so there is no doubt she will experience a huge hole.

That is what I hoping for, and fear that she won't miss me at all.

PUH-LEZE...somebody get me some lumber! Forget that! I need some masonry!

Do you really think she won't miss you? You are crazy...loony-tunes...GOOFY! Of COURSE she will miss you, silly boy! Sheesh...MEN!!!!

BTW-loved your post to DM...did you see my response? (hehehe)

Well, I got to be honest with you, I do think she will not miss me, at least not enough to make a place in her heart for me.

Ok - now you can beat on me... or I cold join you under that shed. LOL

Yes I saw that and laughed my a$$ off. I think he needed that... He's worse than me. LOL (Yes, you DM. Still your bu though)