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Well, I got to be honest with you, I do think she will not miss me, at least not enough to make a place in her heat for me. OK, so do you mean she is in heat, or what...? LMAO!!!! You are WRONG, TMTS. She will miss you, and it will be a short stay in paradise...I would bet my non-existant salary on it!
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Stay positive - don't beat yourself.
your DD's family and safety is the reason for you to hang tough.
Get some rest because tomorrow (today) will bring in another set of problems and opportunities for Plan A.
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ROFLMHO. Ok you're on I'll even give you 3 to 1 odds that she doesn't. Mind you I hope you're right. I can't wait to talk visit the neighbor and see this post he has about being in a relationship.
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Hi RW
I'm ok, just being realistic based on my gut feeling. Either that or she hasa real good poker face.
Oh I'm still up becasue I did the mistake of laying down when I got home at 4 and woke up at 7:30. Oops.
So I'm here doing this and doing a little bible study.
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TMTS,
I have been known to take a BBQ and meat onto the ice. In fact on good days when a lot of guys are out it usually turns into a pot-luck dinner. Somebody has Brats, somebody else some Polish sausage, somebody brings out some venison steaks...Today I was the only one out most of the day, so I didn't do any cooking while I was out.
I drilled so many holes my arms ached (I have a hand auger and the blades aren't as sharp as they should be)
Caught 4 crappie in the morning and kept 11 blue gills, 3 read ear and one more crappie that all came about 20 minutes either side of sunset. Then it got too dark to see the hook to rebait it and I packed up.
But I got me a mess of fillets for tomorrow night.
More detailed report on the vacation thread over in recovery if you want to wander over there.
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Hi Mark, I read that and it made me hungry! I love crappie!!! Pan fried in butter, mmmmmm!
Well WW has just gone over to the neighbors place. So I called her as she was walking over. We had a 20 sec talk.
ME: Hi, does she know? She’s coming over. N: Yes I showed her Friday. Me: did she react? N: Oh yes. Me: Well that's good. N: Look BS, she's over her right now because she is having second thoughts! Come over a little later, I'll show you the facebook page and give you the details.Hang in there I don't think she's going anywhere. Me: Oh N this means babysitting for life dear. Thank you so much.
Now I'm shaking and crying with nervous anticipation (Oh yes I'm a couple of steps passed expectations now). I know it's bad at this stage but I can't help it.
I will keep you posted as developments unfold.
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wow..... i hope your N is right on ..... i really hope your WW cracks that fog she is in and realizes what is going on. I have so much hope for you and your daughters.
BTW munchkin is jumping around waving pompoms for ya as well. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Truth can stand on it's own two feet....A lie needs support....FRM
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{{{{{TMTS}}}}}
I can sooo relate to your name....
Anyway, I do see this as a good sign but I really need for you to try and not get your expectations up too much even now. I think it's awesome and a great sign that she is having 2nd thoughts but WW may still take her precious time deciding how to handle herself now.
Just start praying for guidance, now......lol....
Keep your focus on you, not her. She needs to keep seeing these changes in you forever.
{{{{{TMTS}}}}}
Husband was unfaithful to me before and after our marriage, at least 7 times. I found out 13 yrs into the marriage. Trickle truth for an entire year. Several different d-days, so it was more like a d-year. Difficult recovery.
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TMTS,
Oh she's good with that poker face isn't she?
Thanks for the update, I've been wondering if you knew anything.
I hope this puts a nice big hole in her fantasy bubble.
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Yes this is confirmation that what I have been seeing is poker face. It might explain why she was so ready to spend time with me yesterday (It was more than usual). Last night Plan A may have been the final test.
I know I need to calm my silly Canadian a$$ down before she gets back and go back to knowing nothing. Until she comes to me wanting to talk about not moving out and reconciling, I act like the idiot that I am.
I am a complete wreck of excited anxiousness right now. I'm breathing my A$$ off to try to calm down and not let those EXPECTATIONS get to me, because I know that nothing has been decided.
Please say a prayer for her.
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TMTS,
OK. Let's talk about crappie...
One of my favorite recipes is to dip boneless fillets in milk, roll them in crushed potato chips and fry them up in butter...not for those with bad hearts, BTW.
Another version uses crush corn chips instead (plain old Fritos work well enough) and then top them with fresh salsa and a dollop of sour cream.
With either of these versions you need to keep the heat down a bit because you want the fish just done when the outside reaches light golden brown. If you get the heat too high, the crust burns before the fillets are done.
Same recipes work well with blue gill or any sunfish fillets, including largemouth or smallmouth bass. Both of the former species should probably come from cold water though because larger bass tend to taste like the water they live in, which for LMB especially can mean they taste like grass.
I have tried the corn chip and salsa recipe with walleye and it is not bad, but walleye is best beer battered and dropped into smokin' hot fat.
A recipe for those days when you catch a bunch of smaller panfish is to scale them, fillet them but leave the skin on. Then drop them a few at a time into boiling salted water. They cook in about 30 seconds and then drain them and cool them or even chill them overnight. Because of the skin on one side they tend to curl.
Serve them with cocktail sauce...Poor man's shrimp...
I'm getting hungry for some reason...
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Hmmmmm, so 3-1 odds should get me...let see, nothing times three equals... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Cool as a cucumber now, Toomuch, Joe Cool-O-Rama-Lama Man (old SNL...copy machine guy...prolly don't know that one, huh?) <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
Gosh-this would be a great night for a romantic date. Any way you can throw that together in a jiff?
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TMTS,
Hurray!!!... I hope all goes well for you...
You and your wife will be in my thoughts and prayers today...
BH, 46 STBXWW, 41, Serial Cheater D-Day #1 5-26-2006 (Our Wedding Aniversary) D-Day #2 12-26-2007 D-Day #3 5-11-2008 Separated 1-5-2008 STBX filed for divorce March 2009
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TMTS-
How's it going - eh? Hope all is well up there.
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Hi folks,
Well nothing new to report after the visit at the neighbors place other. Because of timing of supper and neighbor going to bed early I won't talk to her again until sometime tomorrow, so I'll have a better idea of what she is thinking.
That being said after supper I asked her if she wanted to watch a movie, she said yes, and came to sit down beside me on the couch, knowing that I would at very least put my hand on her leg and snuggle up a bit, which I did, with no resistance. She was acting very happy and sweet when she got back so I don't know. I'm just ramping up to my Plan A, A plays now.
Lala, you're kidding right? I've had that planned out since the Friday news. Dinner at a nice little Italian sea food restaurant followed up by a few drinks at the local piano lounge and if time permitted a game or two of pool.
So nothing new since the 20 sec conversation this afternoon. She's still working her poker face.
The other curious thing is that the mediator returned her call this morning as she had a question about division of assets as it pertains to an LSA. This was at 11:30, and she had every opportunity to talk to me about that part of it (I know the answer to her question so I'm ready for this discussion). But she never did.... Until this part is settled he can't work on a draft. So is this a good sign when you link it to the neighbor’s information?
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Yes, a very good sign. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Husband was unfaithful to me before and after our marriage, at least 7 times. I found out 13 yrs into the marriage. Trickle truth for an entire year. Several different d-days, so it was more like a d-year. Difficult recovery.
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Thanks, I would have thought that this would be something she would want settled and in his hands ASAP. He is waiting on this inform to start drafting the LSA. He was very clear that he would not put anything together in writing until we called him with answers to the issues we need to negotiate. I just wanted to pass it by you guys to make sure I wasn’t reading into anything.
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I had a chat with both neighbors and I’ve made some last minute adjustments to the plan.
She did see the face book page and talked to him yesterday, of course he did not bring up the fact that he’s in another relationship but had all kinds of excuses why he has not called her. So we now have confirmation that he is a player.
From the information I gathered she is in withdrawal where she thinks he might come around if she does move, but is also thinking that she might be making a big mistake and that there is a chance for her to rekindle our love. They think that she is too comfortable and safe. She told them that I am in love with her enough that I would take her back even if she does leave. She was supposed to talk to me about the LSA last night, or so she told the neighbor, so the fact that it didn’t come up and we did have a nice night makes me wonder.
I need to make sure that she understands the boundary here. It’s one thing to have an affair, it’s a different story to move out to play the field. That will a deal breaker with me and will lead straight to D.
So I am making some major Plan a moves.
1) I went and bought me a couple of new shirts (That actually fit). Since loosing the weight my shirts look real baggy, so these look real good. I modeled them for opinion from the neighbors and agree that I look real good in them. So I’m wearing the unanimous pick (Just flashier than the other one) and I’m going out. Don’t know where but I am, and I’m getting out the sport jacket and everything. She needs to understand that I can have a life without her.
2) I bought a new door handle and left it in the front entrance for her to see.
3) When she does bring up anything about us either LSA, having second thoughts… whatever. I will make it very clear that once she leaves the home there is no guarantee that she will be welcome back and that if she thinks she will go a date for a few months then return to me, she is wrong and that the day she decides to date other men is the day I am done.
4) Bought her a valentine’s plush cat and put it on her pillow.
Guaranteed she will be going over to the neighbors place when I leave, and they will simply tell them the same thing they have… don’t assume he will sit there and wait for you. You have seen what the OM really is now that he’s gone you’re looking at loosing the one person who you can count on to love you… don’t be so stupid. This is it now, the final push. She is wavering on what she is doing and really asking herself if she does want to go. The consensus with the neighbors is that she feels too safe and need to feel a little of the tough love (Mark eluded to that last week). So here we go….
If anyone has any comments or things I should be watching out for, please say so.
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2) I bought a new door handle and left it in the front entrance for her to see. You know I am NO expert and quit a whimp myself. But I love this one.... I need your help. How can I change the thread name that comes up on the overall board. I am a little challenged in this area.
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