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funny, i didn't see him mention any criminal intent. i saw a question.

nor did i say it was a good idea, so i'm not sure who you are referring with your sarcastic "and therfore most likely seems like a great idea to some!"

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medc said "I would open it."

now THAT would be illegal as I can only assume Learning2Fly's name is not on the envelope.

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yes, I did....but there's no "proof" of that. Depositing the check can come back to him.
Also, there is no intent to deceive when a H opens mail delivered to his home.
There would be no crime or criminal charges....heck, my neighbors have actually opened my mail by mistake when it was in their box...I have done the same...I should be in jail.
L2F should open it to confirm the contents and then destroy the entire letter/check. Common sense.

(I guess that was snippy).

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yes, I did....but there's no "proof" of that. Depositing the check can come back to him.
Also, there is no intent to deceive when a H opens mail delivered to his home.
There would be no crime or criminal charges.

so let me get this right... you believe it's only a crime if there is proof left behind???

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BTW...when mail is in the mail box, it falls under the juriscition of the USPS. When it is taken in the house, it is considered marital property and would be subject to the state laws governing mp. It is no longer a USPS issue UNLESS the mail is removed from the box by an unauthorized person.
In this case, the USPS employee handed the letter to the H ...because he is authorized to receive it.
State laws will look at intent to deceive. Opening a letter addressed to his wife does not show an intent to deceive.

Common sense.

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(I guess that was snippy).

now this is an example of me agreeing with you.

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whenever I suggest to BS something that is ina gray area of the law, I ask them to keep their "hands clean." (an example)Placing a recording device in a car to capture WS conversations with the OP is always illegal. Always...no matter what state you are in. GPS units are also illegal in some places.
Does that mean I will suggest to a BS that they should not gather information? No. It means I want them to keep their hands clean and not leave behind anything that would incriminate them.
In a case like this, L2F would be inviting a headache if he admitted opening the letter. Doing so in a fashion that leaves no proof would keep his hands clean and he would avoid the drama.

Common sense.

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I suggest FLTH that you get your facts straight regarding the law before you run with your advice. You can get clarification from this from the Postal Inspector and your local law enforcement.
You made an obviously inaccurate statement regarding the legality of opening the letter. Thank you for pointing out the contradiction in my post.

Snippy doesn't imply inaccuracy...I just figured I would save the mods a few ***.

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Thanks all for your input...

I ended up not opening it, as the contents were clearly visible and I saw all I needed to see.

My question re spouses opening eachother's mail still stands, however, and it appears to me as though a letter w/in my own home, or handed me from the postman would be marital property...

I do believe that if I'd wanted to push the issue, I could very well have deposited it into our joint account w/ no "criminal intent". I didn't.

Instead, when WW texted me asking if she could use some money from our joint account to pay for the dog lessons, I immediately texted back:

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Check from OM came...use that.


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...that is, if it doesn't bounce... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />


I crack myself up...

Again, thanks all, and I'll return to my regularly scheduled thread

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Good job in remaining calm. And I love the "if it doesn't bounce" remark.

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Ok, I'm just being nosy here, but do you have any idea why he sent her a check? (Besides the most obvious one.)

Does she work for him or something?


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No, her reply was some lame excuse about him "paying her back" for something...

My guess is he needed some money and she spotted him some. Could have been from a LONG time ago...

As it was from "her" account, and she DOES have a job, I think my making any stink about it is useless.

Her knowing that I know is about all need...

Still turns my stomach...

Although the fact she clearly expected him to pay it back, or made a stink about it recently, is just another indication to me that it's "over"


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