Prayers, Jerry. God is with you. We are, too.

Jerry,

Please let us help you. We all understand how you feel. Many of us have felt that way at one time or another through this, but there isn't anything so bad that makes it worth your life.

We love you and care about you, and we need you here to help us too.

Jerry,

Do like Justuss suggested and call the 1-800-suicide number.

Then come here and talk it out with us. We know how you feel, you're not alone. There is a tomorrow, each day is a chance for a new start.

Jo

Jerry, I don't know what is going on, but please don't give up. Not only do you have a ministry here where you are needed, but we want to minister to you. Let us be here for you; you have nothing to hide from. Praying for you..please stay in touch!

My prayers for you too. Just rest in God, let Him hold you and feel His strength.

Jerry,

I am so sorry for your suffering. Over the last 9 months, I have read some of your posts and have been inspired by a lot of what you say.

I pray you will see your value is so much greater than just your FWW's husband. All of us BS's have these dark days. I was there just a few weeks ago...just needing the pain to end for ONE DAY. You have seen many BS's through right here on the board. I hope you will allow us to see you through this darkness of sorrow you are in right now.

God saved my life with the song below...literally. I pray the words will speak to you now, as they did to me.

Keep holding on, Jerry.





TUNNEL by Third Day

Well I won't pretend to know what you're thinking
And I can't begin to know what you're going through
And I won't deny the pain that you're feeling
But I'm gonna try and give a little hope to you
Just remember what I told you
There's so much you're living for

There's a light at the end of this tunnel
There's a light at the end of this tunnel for you
For you
There's a light at the end of this tunnel
Shining bright at the end of this tunnel for you
For you
So keep holding on

You got your disappointments and sorrows
You ought to share the weight of that load with me
Then you will find that the light of tomorrow
Well it brings new life for your eyes to see
So remember what i told you
There's so much your living for

There's a light at the end of this tunnel
There's a light at the end of this tunnel for you
For you
There's a light at the end of this tunnel
Shining bright at the end of this tunnel for you
For you
So keep holding on
Keep holding on

So remember what i told you
There's so much you're living for

There's a light at the end of this tunnel
There's a light at the end of this tunnel for you
For you yeah
There's a light at the end of this tunnel
Shining bright at the end of this tunnel for you
For you yeah
There's a light at the end of this tunnel ooh
For you, for you yeah
Shining bright at the end of this tunnel
For you, for you
So keep holding on
Keep holding on
Keep holding on now

You got your disappointments and sorrows
I'm gonna try and give a little hope to you

Jerry,

OMG, just saw this. Praying for you like all. Most of us have dealt with what you're feeling.

Choose to win. Even if it seems easier to let the enemy win, it's a lie. Know that we care.

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Jerry}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

Ace

[color:"red"]Edited to add: Wow SMB, beautiful lyrics and effective. Thanks for sharing. [/color]

Jerry,
I don't think we have actually talked, but PLEASE see all these people that care and that are here for you. PLEASE see that you are not alon and know that there is much prayer going out for YOU right now even. Hold on, dear one.

NL

Jerry, in the hope that you will still read this....

You are not alone.

I, and many others, who have struggled with the bombshell of infidelity and the salt in the wounds excruciating pain of repeated "revelations," KNOW, as only those who have gone through affliction can know, how ALONE you feel.

But it's the walls, the retreat into the womb, to the fortress of solitude that SEEMS safe. We understand.

Jerry, we are not friends. We are brothers.

I may not be able to meet you in your fortress, but another one can. The one who knows what is it to be abandoned by all, to suffer undeservedly for the waywardness of others.

A mighty fortress IS our God....

He knows the pain...My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?

Take my hand.

The hand of a brother who KNOWS.

Strength for today and bright hope for tomorrow

Some songs you may enjoy and find some comfort in:


Simon & Garfunkel:

A Winter's Day:

A winter's day
In a deep and dark December
I am alone
Gazing from my window
To the streets below
On a freshly fallen silent shroud of snow

I am a rock
I am an island

I've built walls
A fortress deep and mighty
That none may penetrate
I have no need of friendship
Friendship causes pain
It's laughter and it's loving I disdain

I am a rock
I am an island

Don't talk of love
Well I've heard the word before
It's sleeping in my memory
I won't disturb the slumber
Of feelings that have died
If I never loved I never would have cried

I am a rock
I am an island

I have my books
And my poetry to protect me
I am shielded in my armor
Hiding in my room
Safe within my womb
I touch no one and no one touches me

I am a rock
I am an island

And a rock feels no pain
And an island never cries


Jerry, no man is an island. You are not alone. We are here, for you and with you.


The Sound of Silence:

Hello darkness, my old friend
I've come to talk with you again
Because a vision softly creeping
Left its seeds while I was sleeping
And the vision that was planted in my brain
Still remains
Within the sound of silence

In restless dreams I walked alone
Narrow streets of cobblestone
'Neath the halo of a street lamp
I turn my collar to the cold and damp
When my eyes were stabbed by the flash of a neon light
That split the night
And touched the sound of silence

And in the naked light I saw
Ten thousand people maybe more
People talking without speaking
People hearing without listening
People writing songs that voices never shared
No one dared
Disturb the sound of silence

"Fools," said I, "you do not know
Silence like a cancer grows
Hear my words that I might teach you
Take my arms that I might reach you"
But my words like silent raindrops fell
And echoed in the wells of silence

And the people bowed and prayed
To the neon god they made
And the sign flashed out its warning
In the words that it was forming
And the sign said "The words of the prophets are written on the subway walls
And tenement halls
And whispered in the sound of silence

To Him who intercedes for you in the silence, where words are inadequate and not enough, with groanings that God hears:

Peace Like a River (It Is Well With My Soul)

When peace like a river Attendeth my way,
When sorrows like sea billows roll;
Whatever my lot, Thou hast taught me to say,
"It is well, it is well with my soul."

(Refrain:)
It is well (it is well) with my soul (with my soul)
It is well, it is well with my soul.

Though Satan should buffet, though trial should come,
Let this blest assurance control:
That Christ has regarded my helpless estate,
And has shed His own blood for my soul.

(Refrain)

My sin - oh, the bliss of this glorious thought -
My sin, not in part, but the whole,
Is nailed to the cross, and I bear it no more;
Praise the Lord, praise the Lord, O my soul!

(Refrain)

O Lord, haste the day when my faith shall be sight,
The clouds be rolled back as a scroll;
The trump shall resound And the Lord shall descend;
Even so, it is well with my soul.

(Refrain)


A Mighty Fortress Is Our God

A mighty Fortress is our God,
A Bulwark never failing;
Our Helper He amid the flood
Of mortal ills prevailing:
For still our ancient foe
Doth seek to work us woe;
His craft and power are great,
And, armed with cruel hate,
On earth is not his equal.

Did we in our own strength confide,
Our striving would be losing;
Were not the right Man on our side,
The Man of God's own choosing:
Dost ask who that may be?
Christ Jesus, it is He;
Lord Sabaoth His Name,
From age to age the same,
And He must win the battle.

And though this world, with devils filled,
Should threaten to undo us,
We will not fear, for God hath willed
His truth to triumph through us:
The Prince of Darkness grim,
We tremble not for him;
His rage we can endure,
For lo! his doom is sure,
One little word shall fell him.

That word above all earthly powers,
No thanks to them, abideth;
The Spirit and the gifts are ours
Through Him who with us sideth:
Let goods and kindred go,
This mortal life also;
The body they may kill:
God's truth abideth still,
His Kingdom is forever.


Great Is Thy Faithfulness

Great is thy faithfulness, O God my father
There is no shadow of turning with Thee
Thou changest not, Thy compassions, they fail not
As Thou hast been, Thou for ever will be
Great is thy faithfulness
Great is thy faithfulness
Morning by morning new mercies I see
All I have needed thy hand hath provided
Great is thy faithfulness, Lord unto me
Great is thy faithfulness

Summer and winter, and springtime and harvest
Join with all nature in manifold witness
To thy great faithfulness, mercy and love

Great is thy faithfulness
Great is thy faithfulness
Morning by morning new mercies I see
All I have needed thy hand hath provided
Great is thy faithfulness, Lord unto me
Great is thy faithfulness

Pardon for sin and a peace that endureth
Thine own dear presence to cheer and to guide
Strength for today and bright hope for tomorrow
Blessings all mine, with ten thousand beside

Great is thy faithfulness
Great is thy faithfulness
All I have needed thy hand hath provided
Great is thy faithfulness, Lord unto me


Jerry, I've never done this before, but if you'd like my cellphone number, to talk from your fortress to my fortress, I will give it to you.

In this hour of need, Father, with the surf of life crashing and pounding against him, surround your servant Jerry with a fortress of angels to defend him against the onslaughts of the enemy. Cause others to rise up to meet his needs, knowing that we are never alone with you. "I shall lose none of them," for the sake of thy Son Jesus Christ, in whose name we pray and humbly seek your help where we are so powerless ourselves. Amen.

Jerry, please come back. Please. I am praying for you.

Hey shinethrough.

I can only imagine what your going through....
that would make you react this way.

Please remember that there are many here that both Care ....and that can also Understand.
We empathize my friend.

A few requests (if I may be so bold)

First,
please let everyone Know that you are still out there.
I know you respect many of the folks here,
and if there is no closure, it really will upset Many that have stood shoulder to shoulder with you over the yrs.
I'd hope you can see they probably deserve better than that.

Next,
If you need some Help .....please get it.
Whether its here,... there or anywhere.
Cause No Matter your obstacle or challenge ....everything
eventually passes.
Good can still come out of Bad.
That is as long as we are still here.
So stay ....

Lastly,
please don't have all of your posts deleted.
Hey,
if (after checking in and letting us know your OK, at least physically) ...if after that you don't ever Choose to log in and post again ......we all would respect that.
However,
at least consider leaving all the GOOD you've done in multiple threads INTACT for all those who may (and will) come after you.
At least give it a thought.

BE Well....

Hi folks,
I left for about 24 hours and came back to an overwhelming testimony of exactly how wonderful all of you people really are. How can I ever say thank you to you wonderful folks.

If I may, let me start explaining what has happened and the reason for my inexcusable behavior towards this forum and all of you.

For the record, my doctor saw me first thing this morning and gave me a few xanex to get through the next 48 hours. He’s a really good GP and knows the entire sitch, as he was the one who DX me with an STD. He is also my W’s GP so he has sort of an inside track as to what’s going on, both physically and emotionally in our lives.

Next he proceeded to lambaste the heck out of me for having the brilliant idea of removing my self from anti-depressants cold turkey. For those of you taking AD’s, don’t even think about going off these little harmless pills without consulting your physician first!!!! The withdrawal that takes place is FAR FROM HARMFUL!!! That being said, I foolishly threw myself into a bottomless pit.

OTOH, what’s that saying about timing being everything? While in my pit, my FWW decides that I am now safe enough to be radically honest with. As I have suspected since day 1, it was NOT a ONS! It was more like a 9 month PA with her boss. Actually it makes all the missing puzzle pieces fit together where they belong. I feel like I have been trying to force square peg into round holes for 5 and ½ years now. Now all the pieces fit into a perfect pattern. If nothing else, that will make sense and may actually put my mind at Pease, as in; I am not crazy or out of mind.

My deepest regret is that I came here onto these forums and injected the very feeling this this forum is trying to prevent; the feeling that all is hopeless! We, as a community, post and thread about the exact opposite. We let people know that there is hope, we revive their hearts to the point of knowing you, I, we, can all survive and that Satan has yet to find a way to destroy hope. For this, I am very ashamed and wouldn’t blame the mods for banning me from this forum. We can all talk about the violation to TOS, but yesterday, in my mind, I did the worst of the worst.

So to all of you, I apologize in the most humble way, and ask you to forgive my outburst. It didn’t belong on a discussion board that is all about hope and redemption. Please accept my apology.

All blessings to all of you souls,
Jerry

Jerry...welcome back my friend. No apologies necessary. e all hit bottom sometimes.

Just try and relax for a few days....get your thoughts together and then it will be time to start sorting this out.

I can only tell you that I am relieved beyond words that you are safe.

We were just worried. You're gonna get a whoopin if you keep talking about being banned - this is your home too. Glad you are better today.

Me too! I didn't post while you were gone because I don't know you that well. However, since I've been here, I have come to respect your opinions greatly and admire the unfailing demonstration of Christ's love that "shinesthrough" in your posts. I'm glad you're okay.

Jerry,

I am going to mass now and will thank Him.

MBers are here. Talk to us, we can empathize.

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t&l

Isn't it remarkable that the doctors who prescribe this stuff take the drug saleperson's word that " oh no,, it's not a drug that causes addition."

and they hand it out like aspirin.

the CDC has the real scoop.

AD users BEWARE!!!!

All blessings,
Jerry

Jerry ~

Never posted to you before but ever since your post yesterday, I have been praying for you. I am so glad to hear you are ok, I was worried about you!

I have a good friend here visiting me for the week...I kept saying "wait, I have to check my message board...someone is not doing well and I'm worried...these affairs really [censored] people up...".

It sounds like, while what you learned SUCKS, you are in the same sitch I was in after a 10 month false recovery..."Ok, this new information SUCKS. But I am so glad and relieved that I am NOT CRAZY!!!!".

And it was then that the real recovery began. I hope and pray the same for you.

Jerry, being a former pharm rep, I would say the blame goes to the doctor and the pharmacist. The doctors are given FDA approved literature from the reps and a scripted sales pitch...which is also FDA approved.

Bottom line though...AD's are not really appropriate for 90% of the people they are prescribed for. As the recent news has shown...they are only effective for a limited number of depressions.


So, yes, beware. AND, a family doctor should not be the one prescribing. I always advocate a psychiatrist for just these types of reasons.
Damn glad to see you back.