ez, an example of a foggy mind would be:

1. one that rationalizes sleazy, destructive adultery as just another "lifestyle choice."

2. a married man who is really a serial cheater who manipulates his wife into believing his serial cheating is perfectly acceptable by calling it "swinging," an alternative lifestyle.

3. He then acts SURPRISED! :eek: when she leaves him and chalks it up to a "lack of affection."

4. A man who hands his wife over to sicko [censored] from sex sites on the internet for the purpose of sexual gratification and then professes to "love" her.

He is so adamant about protecting his right to be a serial cheater that he

a) denies its impact on the collapse of his marriage even though he can see it with his own eyes and

b) bastardizes the English language in order pretend like his adultery is not adultery. ["we don't feel it is adultery, therefore it is not"] :rolleyes:

That is the FOG!! That is the wayward MIND.

Ok obviously I need to explain a few things.

First off I did not understand the difference between WW and WAW. My wife is a WAW.

Secondly I have shouldered most if not all of the blame for our separation (although obviously it was not by my choice.)

Third I did not drag, talk or hold a gun to my wifes head to get into the lifestyle it was by OUR choice and OUR enthusiastic agreement.

Fourth what we did in the lifestyle was by agreement although on some things our timeline was off.

Five it is both our belief that what we agree on is not infidelity in either of our minds. I know this won't be viewed in our POV but it is a fact with both of us.

Last but not least (more like first) I'm trying to understand my wife's feelings, wants, needs, love busters and love bank. Is it my lack of doing that that has led our marriage to this point and is what I'm here to correct.

I would also like to add that my comment about not caring about the future more meant I believe the future will take care of itself through my hard work at restoring my wife's faith that I do love her and by overflowing her love bank.

Also I'am not in any way shape or form involved in the lifestyle now nor have I been for a few months now.

It won't be viewed that way here because yours is an irrational "belief." Adultery is adultery whether you want to admit it or not. You are a serial cheater, no matter what you want to call it. Facts are facts. Adultery is adultery.

If you both agree that Texas is on the MOON does that make it a true "fact?" No, because something is only a true FACT if it is based on REALITY, not just because it is your "belief." Just because you "believe" something does not mean its true.

So no, it won't be viewed as a "fact" here because it is not a fact and because others here are not FOGGED OUT. You are.

ezb, your rationalizations reflect a very foggged out, wayward mind. We hear this kind of denial all the time from wayward spouses, and that is exactly what you are.

I am sorry, ezb, but fogbabble does not work here.

This is meaningless unless you are willing to forgo adultery for life and take extraordinary precautions to change the things that led to your serial cheating. But I think you and I both know you arent willing to give up your adultery. You aren't even honest about it.

Your spin in this post is contradictory. You claim there is nothing wrong with your serial cheating and then go on to claim you have stopped it. if there is nothing wrong with your adultery, why stop? You can't have it both ways.

Suggestion from a former professional bs artist: make sure your spin makes SENSE before you use it on others.

Geesh! You still don't get it. Getting honest requires you admitting what YOU are. YOU are a WW and that stands for WAYWARD. And as everyone keeps pointing out to you, you are also a serial wayward.

Come on man, this is the *EDIT* I'm talking about. You need to quit spreading it.






Blah, blah, blah... That's because you BOTH are are waywards spewing a bunch of fog babble.

You are also both betrayed spouses (BS). Your wife broke her vows to you, and you broke your vows to her. There is much healing that must take place. But it cannot begin to happen until you both recognize the mortal wounds that your marriage has been struck with.